My MEPS story

[geinstrife]

Hi everybody.

Went to MEPS this week for the physical and ASVAB testing. Blood work, hearing, sight, duck walk, height, weight, urinalysis... everything checked out. Earned a 99 on the ASVAB. I didn't swear in.

But I falsified the medical prescreen and signed it. I was obeying my recruiter like a dolt. Now I know where I stand - I only want to be in the Marines if my superiors know everything about me and still think there's a place for me. Otherwise, I have no business going to boot camp hiding secrets from my own comrades, from my own country.

My swearing-in day has been postponed so I can collect all the medical records I can find.

I'm not really worried about the records. I think based on the records I bring in to my recruiter, I'll have a great chance of getting in still.

But I started sleepwalking again. Last time this was happening was before I was 13.

At home the night before the MEPS trip, I got up out of bed, partly conscious but in a dreamy state, and threw my bed sheets in a pile on the other side of the room. Woke up freezing cold.

Next morning, my alarm woke me up at the hotel. Lo and behold, bed sheets up against the door. Two nights in a row, and since then I've been fine.

Terrible timing, right? Hey, if my recruiter doesn't want to hear about this, I'll tell the people at MEPS the day I'm supposed to swear in and see what happens.

Until then... thoughts?

[Rocky C]

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[Quinbo]

Picture yourself on a night ambush set at 50% alert. You get up and zombie like wander off into the woods and compromise the whole ambush.

[Lisa 23]

Military Medical Standards for Enlistment & Commission
Mental Health Conditions

Behavioral Disorders

Current or history of conduct (312), or behavior (313) disorders is disqualifying. Recurrent encounters with law enforcement agencies, antisocial attitudes or behaviors are tangible evidence of impaired capacity to adapt to military service and as such are disqualifying.
Current or history of personality disorder (301) is disqualifying. History (demonstrated by repeated inability to maintain reasonable adjustment in school, with employers or fellow workers, or other social groups), interview, or psychological testing revealing that the degree of immaturity, instability, personality inadequacy, impulsiveness, or dependency will likely interfere with adjustment in the Armed Forces is disqualifying.
Current or history of other behavior disorders is disqualifying, including, but not limited to conditions such as the following:

(1) Enuresis (307.6) or encopresis (307.7) after 13th birthday is disqualifying.

(2) Sleepwalking (307.4) after 13th birthday is disqualifying.

(3) Eating disorders (307.5), anorexia nervosa (307.1), bulimia (307.51), or unspecified disorders of eating (307.59) lasting longer than 3 months and occurring after 13th birthday are disqualifying.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joini...a/neurotic.htm

[Lisa 23]

What if You've Already Lied. Is it too Late?


So, what if you're already in the Delayed Entry Program (DEP)? Is it too late to tell the truth? No! As a rule, the military never prosecutes members in the DEP (I don't know of a single case where anyone in the DEP was ever criminally prosecuted by the military). At best, correcting false information on your enlistment paperwork while in the DEP will result in an angry recruiter and delay in when you can ship out to basic while a waiver is considered. At worse, you will be released from the DEP. Being released from the DEP is not the same as a fraudulent entry discharge. In fact, it's not really a discharge at all, because you receive no discharge characterization (i.e., "honorable," "General," or "Under Other Than Honorable"), and you don't receive a DD Form 214 (Record of Discharge). If you are released from the DEP, you can honestly answer "no" to any employment application that asks if you've ever serviced in the military. Additionally, a discharge from the DEP has absolutely no effect on you if you wish to try and join a different military service (a discharge from the DEP may prevent you from joining the same service from who's DEP you were released from, however). Once you take that final oath and go on active duty, however, it's a completely different story.

If you're in the DEP, and you've lied or withheld required information on your enlistment paperwork, it's YOUR responsibility to have it corrected. It's YOUR signature on the forms certifying that the information you've provided is correct and complete. You start with your recruiter. You INSIST that your paperwork be corrected, and you INSIST that you be shown proof of the correction. Tell your recruiter that you will absolutely tell the truth at MEPS on your final shipping day (before you take the active duty oath), even if it means disqualification. If your recruiter tries to talk you out of it, don't listen! It's your life, and it's YOU who will suffer the consequences if your false statements are later discovered. If your recruiter absolutely refuses to help you correct the paperwork, inform them politely, but firmly, that if you do not receive assistance, you plan to report them for a violation of Article 84 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You can report them using one of the addresses above, or report them directly to Service Laison at MEPS.

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joini...atements_5.htm



Lying to Get Into the Military is a Felony


Let's get straight to the point. Knowingly giving false information or withholding required information on any recruiting form is a criminal offense (When the information would have made an individual ineligible to enlist, or would have required a waiver to enlist). It's not a misdemenor, it's not the same as getting a speeding ticket. It's a felony offense, punishable by a $10,000 fine and three years in prison. If you lie to get into the military, you are committing a felony. It's that simple. If you get away with it long enough to actually enlist, and are caught later, it's also a "military offense." You can be prosecuted for a violation of Article 83 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), which states:
"Any person who--
(1) procures his own enlistment or appointment in the armed forces by knowingly false representation or deliberate concealment as to his qualifications for that enlistment or appointment and receives pay or allowances thereunder; or

(2) procures his own separation from the armed forces by knowingly false representation or deliberate concealment as to his eligibility for that separation; shall be punished as a court-martial may direct."

The Manual for Courts-martial (MCM) lists the maximum punishment for a violation of this article as: dishonorable discharge, reduction to the lowest enlisted rank, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement at hard labor for two years.

The Enlistment Contract (DD Form 4/1) can't make this any more plain. Paragraph 13a of the contract (signed by the recruit) states: 13a. My acceptance for enlistment is based on the information I have given in my application for enlistment. If any of that information is false or incorrect, this enlistment may be voided or terminated administratively by the Government, or I may be tried by Federal, civilian, or military court, and, if found guilty, may be punished.

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joini...atements_2.htm

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Sleepwalking is a permanant DQ, and you WILL sleep walk in recruit training. Stress, exertion, etc etc.

You'll be promptly discharged.

I'm afraid you'll have to seek other things in life. Do so now before you get the crappy 'fraudulent enlistment' discharge to make things worse.

[geinstrife]

Thank you for your candidness. I will insist that my prescreen be updated and hear the final verdict straight from the recruiter's mouth so any second thoughts can be settled.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Good. It takes strength to do THAT, too.

[rufio14]

I had a guy in my platoon in boot camp that slept walked. Several times he would get up and **** in the squad bay...then we had to clean it up. He never admitted that it was him but we all knew. I think our SDI found out too but he didn't do anything. The guy graduated. I ran into him at SOI.

[TunTvrnWarrior]

geinstrife, go with your gut on this one. It takes character to speak up and do the right thing. If you compromise on your enlistment, you will compromise for the rest of your life. Get in college, I have a gut feeling you are going to be very successful in what ever you do.