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09-20-11, 09:54 AM #16
NOW, maybe somebody/States can get them (un-wed MOTHERS) to start identifying fathers of their ba$tard children before they gain any funds from the welfare system..and monitary action taken by the states against the "fathers".
Lets stop paying for "breeders"
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09-20-11, 10:38 AM #17
If the drug users are just chipping, they might be able to do this. But if they're serious abusers, there is almost no way they can avoid doing their dope long enough to pass clean. If they could clean up long enough to pass a drug test, they could quit totally. Serious users can't do that. Cocaine, meth, and heroin (and synthetic opioids) have a very powerful grip, as do barbiturates and other amphetamines.
However, even should a serious abuser manage to quit long enough, depending on the drug of choice, by the time of the test their withdrawal signs and symptoms should be quite entertaining.
However, if the test is by hair sample, almost every drug tested for abuse can be detected up to 90-days after last use (alcohol is an exception). A very challenging time period for serious abusers, or even chippers.
By the way, if your workplace has a no smoking/no job rule, there are tests to determine that as well (urine, blood, and hair).
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09-20-11, 12:31 PM #18
IF YOUR WIRED YOUR FIRED
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09-20-11, 01:35 PM #19
Cool...it's about time.
IMO...
the welfare system is long been broken and merely enables the mentality to milk it.
If any of our tax dollars are being given away (regardless of program) these should be basic protocols nationwide.
I don't give a sh!t how it may be differently characterized by the bleeding hearts.
If the drug testing is too cost prohibitive then ditch the program, make them *fish* for themselves, be a leech on friends and relatives or make it OPTIONAL (I know..I've been smoking good stuff) for EACH and every person to participate in funding it.
Me...I'd dump the whole thing and make people accountable rather than allow them to think '...oh well fvck it, the feds and the state will have a program to provide me a freeloader living'
I acknowledge many may not care for my simplified view.
That's my take on it....carry on....
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09-21-11, 01:35 PM #20
Point taken about the serious drug abusers, but that faction should be easily removed with these tests. At least, one would hope. It's the casual users who view welfare as a permanent lifestyle that need to be winnowed out too. I live in Michigan, and I know people who receive welfare and use drugs, and think it's all a big joke. Big parties around the first of the month, then scrounge and sell everything they own for the rest of the month to get dope. Wasted oxygen as far as I am concerned.
m14ed...I agree wholeheartedly. If any of the burden can be lifted from the states, it should be priority one. That's another good way to save big bucks.
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