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Thread: Pistol Range Tips
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07-22-09, 07:30 PM #16
Amen excellent advice all around. My biggest enemy on the range is relaxation. In Boot I was all nerves got a 209 and a pizza box to show for it. Somehow I went back the next time and got an Expert to take home. The next time I got all hung up on shooting my 2nd Award that I missed it by 3 points. This year I got all into my "shooting" zone and didn't pay attention to ANYTHING other than breathing and squeezing, and it payed off big.
Slack elimination is always my biggest concern with anything, shooting competition air rifle, those suckers have a lot of slack and taking and not taking it off is a big difference, when we were more senior shooters our coach told us to shoot both ways so we would see the difference.
Like most I hear the Double Action is the hardest with the delayed and longer trigger pull. I guess some anticipate the snap release of the hammer in single when its not going to happen. As for grip I grew up with some lightweights (A Makarov is 9x18 and for kicks one mag out of a Walther P-38) But lately I've become accustomed to my M1911A1 (WW2 GI styled). Which I dunno if it'll help/hinder/not do a thing for me but those weapons you can't slack wrist or grip at all, they like to stovepipe if you don't have a good hold of them or get all limp wristed. But hopefully handling a heavier and more powerful weapon will give me some strength/endurance on a lighter one.
And don't worry. When I'm "In the Zone" I take my coaches words for it. I just hope I get enough snap-in and practice time (supposedly Friday we learn and snap-in, Monday we shoot 2 practice Courses, Tuesday is one practice course and Wednesday is qual.) to get a feel for it. Like I said I never shot in any "official" position.
Once again thanks for the pointers all.
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07-22-09, 07:40 PM #17
Your pistol will be drawn before "targets" is called. It will sound something likes this, "That __ Relay step up to your firing points and assume the alert carry, this will be your 25 yard line slow fire, firing one magazine of 15 rounds in the time limit of 10 minutes. All shots will be fired using single action. Upon completion of this stage of fire, unload show clear, holster a condition 4 weapon, fill that empty magazine with 8 rounds and stand behind your firing point. You may commence firing once your TARGETS appear."
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07-22-09, 09:31 PM #18
C'mon Devil Dog, did somebody p*ss on your cheerios this morning, why the sour attitude.
I'm sure you have the ten percent out there.
I used to teach at PMI school, not just me but I was one of the instructors that taught other Marines how to be pistol and rifle coaches/instructors, so I take offense to that statement. The Marines that we awarded the MOS of 8531 were no slouches; they were required to be experts in both rifle and pistol, were well trained in range procedures, and most importantly knew what to look for and how to fix MOST problem shooters. I emphasize MOST because some shooters are know-it-all-pains-in-the-azzes. Plus they can't help everyone, some shooters are simply rocks and/or non-shooting focks.
But, just like any job - a cook, a candle stick maker, a grunt or a range coach - you always have your 10 percent. But most of them are trying to help. It's the shooters job to apply. Hmm, reminds me of something Bruce Lee said....."Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do."
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07-22-09, 09:38 PM #19
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07-23-09, 07:45 AM #20
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07-23-09, 08:10 AM #21
No there is Gunny. That was just an example of firing at the 25. You still do double shot speed drills at the 7 and the 15.
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07-23-09, 08:28 AM #22
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07-23-09, 09:28 AM #23
http://www.marines.mil/news/publicat...%203574.2K.pdf
I have a thing with researching stuff a lot. They have the course of fire though to me its partially Greek. But I will find out tomorrow during the classes. Thanks again!
Table 3 and 4 for rifle sound interesting but being a Winger I probably won't get to shoot them unless I go to the range. I saw them shooting Table 3 while doing "combat conditioning" in full gear. They make you earn that Pith from what I see! So I can see why some coaches are very protective of their job and why most do good at it.
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07-23-09, 11:43 AM #24
Zen
Become the Pistol
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07-24-09, 12:07 AM #25
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07-24-09, 01:04 AM #26
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07-24-09, 01:52 AM #27
Here is a little pistol trivia for you.
The "safety" on the M9 wasn't designed as such.
It was designed to be a decocking lever.
The real safety was meant to be the long and hard trigger pull.
Here are a little shooting stance tips I have from shooting.
High grip on the pistol, you want to keep your hands and arms as close to the center line of bore as possible so that you can properly maintain control in recoil.
Thumbs need to be pointed forward to the target.
The index finger of the left hand if you're a right handed shooter) does not loop around the outside of the trigger guard.
That does not help with recoil.
Your finger will slip off the trigger guard in recoil, meaning it will have no effect on better control.
Dry fire as much as possible.
It does help if you do it properly and you correct the problems you identify.
Do it in front of a friend.
Get you game face on, have a target at the proper distance and go through the entire course of fire.
Then have you friend help out with any problems he sees with trigger manipulation, stance, etc.
Painting you sights does help.
I have used neon green with good results.
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