Little MOS to choose from.

[Lopez]

So when i got sworn in and was put in DEP i had to sign with an open in my MOS spot because all my picks were not available (go figures). So they told me to keep in touch with my recruiter to get an MOS. I kept in touch and he went through all the MOS available. (Towards end of december) I struggled to choose one due to the fact that he was gonna try to get me to go early (Feb) sense i have a baby due in May. I picked FIELD 04, LOGISTICS which i looked up and seems like an ok MOS. Now it seems that i wont get shiped early because i keep bugging him about it but he just replies im working on it and they have others trying to leave early. So... I was talking to him about persueing Field 5811 MP (Plan on going to border patrol) and he told me there is nothing left and he named a MOS i wasnt paying attention to. Is anyone else getting the same response? Any similar storys or some advice to help out would be great.

[napalm]

one of my friends signed on as MP and when he got to Parris Island it got changed to Electrician(?) and now he is stuck in San Diego for like a year with nothing to do(thats what he says at least). as for advice i dont have any sorry.

[Achped]

04 field huh?

You like keypunching 4 cards or calling Chief Warrant Officers for ULNs?

[Knight86]

EVERYONE wants MP because they think they are going to be like some CSI show or because they think an MP is better than everyone else because its a "police".. why would you want to be a buddyfu**er? It's not going to help you be a cop or in border patrol anymore than just a reg enlistement.


Second dont say he isn't giong to send you because you are bugging him that is a load of crap...

You probably cant ship early with that MOS because its slot may only be open in that time frame,

This is how it works...

MOS 1 is open from Jan-Feb with 1 slot that means someone needs to fill this slot between these times

MOS 2 (your log thing) has 2 slots from Feb-March that means you cant ship in Jan because it isnt open yet.. you will get to your school too eairly and screw the hole rotation up...

You have come this far just pick your MOS then stick with it boot will come soon enough, I know you want to be there when your kid is born but hey you could be shipped out someday when your next kid is born, you could fail at boot camp and get held longer, etc you signed up for the corps and should have already thought of the possibility you may not be there when your kid is born.

[Lopez]

Thanks i didnt really know how the slot filling thing worked. Your example gave me a better idea of how things work.

As for the exsperience for other jobs after the Core your right. The Marines is the exsperience itself. Its just people tell you to do something that what would benfit you after your out of the Marines but i see knoe it doesnt really matter.

And of course i know to expect the unexpected when it comes to the military and its hard when you have an otherhalf on the other end wondering WHY this and WHY that and really cant explain to her the answer. Besides that i have to i have no choise. My wife doesnt really know much about the military besides the fact that they are gonna take me for months for bootcamp and school then deploy me for more months. But i keep trying to exlpain to her its for the best for us and the Baby.

Hopefuly explaing the slot thing will answer some of her questions of why havent you left yet. Thank you

[Jfriesner]

No Knight86 is not right. MP will prepare you for a career in Law Enforcement better than any other MOS. MP's will be certified in DUI stops, traffic law, criminal justice structures and procedures, EVOC- emergency vehicle operations certification, trained to use radar, cuffing tactics, and I could go on and on. You are not going to get this in any other MOS. On top of that every state in the US has a standard amount of time you have to serve as an MP before you can become a peace officer without going to academy or having a degree. In MN if you 5 years MP experience you are exempt from having to have a 2 year degree and SKILLS certification. Other states are 5 years as well and some are less, none are more that I know of. You don't get that with any other MOS. If you are serious about doing anything in law enforcement after your time in the Marine Corps I would strongly suggest you do 5811. Any MOS will look good on your resume but 5811 will actually prepare and train you.

I couldn't get 5811 active duty either so I went reserve in order to get it. Now I will have to augment to active duty next year or volunteer to attach to an active company. If you really want good info don't listen to guys online, talk to your local law enforcement, sheriffs office, and border patrol and ask them what they are most looking for.

[fallfast90]

I was an MP in the Marines and I am a cop now in AL. The previous poster is correct. While in my situation, i still had to go through the basic academy, there was a lot of training that helped me out on the street. Law enforcement is one profession that you really cant teach in the classroom, and any experience will help your chances securing a LE position in the civilian sector. With that said, there are a lot of differences. It is obviously a lot more dangerous out in the "real" world as opposed to the military life. There are going to be times that the job does suck because of the wierd work schedule, but on the other hand, there is no job like it in the Marines. if you have any further questions, feel free to hit me up.

[Knight86]

Guess it is just in Texas the Dallas Police and Fort worth police waiver any degree requirements for anyone with prior active duty military exp, and from what a friend of mine told me all he does as an MP is shoot the gun on a hummer

[Lopez]

I dont mind the job duty i just want the experience for my future. Which takes me back to my second problem all the slots are filled for alot of MOS and my contracted ship date is in May. So is my recruiter telling the truth about no more MOS or is he just pulling my leg.

[MotivatedMack88]

I would think that municipal police departments shun MPs because of different work environments. MPs may be used to more brutal tactics than regular cops and it might be difficult to adjust. Not to mention every perp in the real world is looking to sue you if your a little rough. Im sure the state police would have no problem though with MPs. But MP or not i think that ANY prior service is good enough. Just a thought.

[Jfriesner]

I dont mind the job duty i just want the experience for my future. Which takes me back to my second problem all the slots are filled for alot of MOS and my contracted ship date is in May. So is my recruiter telling the truth about no more MOS or is he just pulling my leg.

Again I say it again! These guys, with the exception of fallfast90, have no idea what they are talking about. They are speaking with either second hand information, which is hearsay, or out their arse. If you want good info speak with fallfast90 or better yet call your local boys and speak with the chief of police, speak with the SWAT commander, your Sheriff, etc...these know their **** and will give you great info.

Far as the MOS being available I can't tell you much other than that it was not available for me either here in MN. I had to go reserves in order to get 5811 and then I have to go through the hoops to go active next year. Maybe talk with your recruiter about going reserve if it will get you the job. Also if you feel you are not getting what you need out of your recruiter consider going to a different one and just asking to see his MOS availability list.

Also have you taken your ASVAB already? My recruiter was a didn't care much about my initial interest in 5811 until he saw my test score, 90. It is a highly saught after job and a lot of people can't score high enough for it so recruiters don't like wasting their time giving tons of info on an MOS that the recruit can't get. Just some thoughts. Good luck man.

[Knight86]

Again I say it again! These guys, with the exception of fallfast90, have no idea what they are talking about. They are speaking with either second hand information, which is hearsay, or out their arse. If you want good info speak with fallfast90 or better yet call your local boys and speak with the chief of police, speak with the SWAT commander, your Sheriff, etc...these know their **** and will give you great info.

Far as the MOS being available I can't tell you much other than that it was not available for me either here in MN. I had to go reserves in order to get 5811 and then I have to go through the hoops to go active next year. Maybe talk with your recruiter about going reserve if it will get you the job. Also if you feel you are not getting what you need out of your recruiter consider going to a different one and just asking to see his MOS availability list.

Also have you taken your ASVAB already? My recruiter was a didn't care much about my initial interest in 5811 until he saw my test score, 90. It is a highly saught after job and a lot of people can't score high enough for it so recruiters don't like wasting their time giving tons of info on an MOS that the recruit can't get. Just some thoughts. Good luck man.

Here are two examples you can go look at for yourself... I worked with cops every day and most of them told me they don't care if you had MP or were a clerk... Being a MP is NOTHING like being a cop... they teach you how to be a cop not military according to them the only thing that helps is the hand to hand and the firearms training..

http://recruiting.dallaspolice.net/i...=8399&subnav=0
Military Personnel: ** NEW **
3 years active service and an honorable discharge as stipulated on a DD214. Contact a recruiter for more details.


http://www.nypdtrainees.com/collegecredits.asp

To become a New York City Police Officer, you must have 60 college credits (with a least a 2.0 GPA) from an accredited college or university. The only exception to this requirement is if you have completed two years active military service.

[Knight86]

And according to your profile you are a friend of a Marine, you never went through boot camp, etc and you are talking about your recruiter and the reserves either update your profile or shut it.

If i seem harsh that's ok.. any Marine can say "Again I say it again! These guys, with the exception of fallfast90, have no idea what they are talking about. They are speaking with either second hand information, which is hearsay, or out their arse." Not some damn friend who never took up the challenge to even enlist!

[PaidinBlood]

All of y'all just STFU and quit squabbling (except you FF90).

Look- there are opportunities within MP (I am "just" an 03, so tell me to fvck off too) but many do not directly translate to the outside. Having said that, the experience could help or hurt you on the outside, but it will not help you get a job. There are probably cool stories from individual MPs who got cool assignments but I sure see plenty just manning the gate or patrolling (which has its own appeal for some). Just remember any grunt can be FAPd to be an MP.

As for hiring, it is hit-or-miss by department. I do know plenty don't prefer a former MP but if you make it through the interview without being a total douchebag you probably have a good shot.

Bottom line this ain't the political forum. Just post your two cents and move along. If some clown wants to pass bum scoop, fvck him, y'know?

[chadhertz]

Thanks i didnt really know how the slot filling thing worked. Your example gave me a better idea of how things work.

As for the exsperience for other jobs after the Core your right. The Marines is the exsperience itself. Its just people tell you to do something that what would benfit you after your out of the Marines but i see knoe it doesnt really matter.

And of course i know to expect the unexpected when it comes to the military and its hard when you have an otherhalf on the other end wondering WHY this and WHY that and really cant explain to her the answer. Besides that i have to i have no choise. My wife doesnt really know much about the military besides the fact that they are gonna take me for months for bootcamp and school then deploy me for more months. But i keep trying to exlpain to her its for the best for us and the Baby.

Hopefuly explaing the slot thing will answer some of her questions of why havent you left yet. Thank you

Just though I'd let you know before a Marine did its Corps not Core.