Call to Arms!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[elmacotech1988]

My name is Kirk Reid (1986-1990) and I am asking for help from my brothers in arms. I was not the best Marine during my service, it took me many years to learn the true meaning of being a Marine. I was recently called upon to further serve my country, not in active duty, not in armed combat, but to help protect children in the State of Florida from the State itself. The Department of Children and Family Services has not only failed in their duties but has facilitated the destruction of families and harmed the children of civilians and our brothers alike. They have refused to comply with not only our Constitution but Federal guidelines as well.

I ask your help to bring home the children that have been wrongfully and needlessly taken "for their best interests." I am organizing a peaceful demonstration on Valentines Day 2008 across the State of Florida, I and others intend to picket the Florida courthouses demanding the return of our children. I ask that you help fortify our lines, come and hold a sign with me and help protect our most vulnerable citizens.

My oath didn't have an expiration date, and it took me a long time to understand what that oath meant, but I do remember the words "to protect my country from enemies both foreign and domestic."

I was asked to help by those families in need, and I am asking you to help me show those families what a few good Marines can do.

Semper Fi!

Kirk A. Reid

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Ummm.....could you post more information on this? Such as, exactly what the 'wrongfully and needlessly taken' bit means? Examples?

Lawsuit might be the way to go with this....

Are there links to a website or something?

[Buckeye]

Why make a call to Arms,do you expect us to pick up weapons for this...isn't there a more peaceful solution?....We are not Militia!

[elmacotech1988]

http://www.fyi3.com/fyi3/fyi/stats/index.cfm general information.
http://jenny.741.com/points.htm see second section: State Reviews and ACYF Data
http://www.nccpr.org/ lots of reading here I apologize.

Here is just a little information to get you started. there is more out there.

[elmacotech1988]

A call to arms, because we are needed, the weapon is a picket sign and our participation.

[elmacotech1988]

The lawsuit angle was explored, lawyers will not take any cases like this as it ends their political careers.

[Buckeye]

So just ask for support,no need for a call to Arms....I understand your cause,but no need for violence....speak softly,but carry a big picket sign.On one end of a big stick.This will speak volumes over violence.Work the system!

[Zulu 36]

The lawsuit angle was explored, lawyers will not take any cases like this as it ends their political careers.

The real reason lawyers won't take those cases are usually two-fold: #1 - They are losing cases, and #2 - They won't make any money on them as the plaintiffs can't afford a big retainer, and since the cases are losers, they won't make any money on a contingency fee basis.

If there is a good case, they'll take it as the State of Florida has deep pockets. Most lawyers look for the money first. Politics and power comes second and that takes money.

I would want more details as to exactly what you are getting at. Whose children, why were they taken, etc. I know DCF isn't the most efficient organization, but they don't screw up all of the time.

[elmacotech1988]

Alfredo Montez
Latiana Hamilton
Rilya Wilson
Cynteria Phillips

maybe you should ask the parents of these children if a call to arms is necessary?

Florida’s foster care system has been criticized for removing children from their biological parents too quickly and too often. National children’s advocacy groups cited the disappearance of five year-old Rilya Wilson from foster care in January 2001 as an example of the need for systemic reform.¹⁷
The 2001 death of a 17-month-old child (Latiana Hamilton) in a crowded foster home, and the arrest of her foster mother for first-degree murder, added to existing concerns about the Florida foster care system. A February 2001 report indicated that 16 percent of the state’s foster homes had more children than were allowed by their licenses; 62 foster homes across the state were caring for more than 10 children.¹⁸
In May 2002, the Department of Children and Family Services was ordered to pay $5 million in damages to a group of six siblings who had been starved and physically as well as sexually assaulted while in foster care. These siblings were placed in a foster home from which the parents’ own biological child had been removed due to sexual assault. The state department was found to have not visited these foster children for more than a year.¹⁹
In 2002, an oversight committee appointed by the governor issued a report criticizing the Department of Children and Families for keeping such poor records that they were endangering children. Their review of more than 1,000 foster children’s cases found that almost all of them were incomplete and disorganized. In addition, the state’s record keeping violated various state and federal laws relating to issues such as sibling files and informed consent.²⁰ http://www.window.state.tx.us/forgot...ndices/a2.html

[elmacotech1988]

I have spoken with lawyers from several major law firms out side of Florida their response was, these cases must be resolved in three arenas, Political, Judicial, and legislative. since a lawyer can only work within the judicial system they are working in a system with a deck stacked against the parents. One father was required to submit to a test where a "lie detector" type device was attached to his penis to determine if he was capable of molesting his child.

all of you asking for information, details or examples, there are hundreds of them on the internet. dating back before 2001. start with a search using the words; Florida foster care scandal you'll find more than adequate resources to validate what I am saying and why I am requesting your help.

but don't take my word for it look up the info and decide for yourselves.

[Zulu 36]

One father was required to submit to a test where a "lie detector" type device was attached to his penis to determine if he was capable of molesting his child.

Sorry, but this statement alone leads me to question your state of mind. After 25-years in law enforcement, and extensive criminal investigation experience (including child abuse, neglect, and molestation cases), I have never heard of such of a device.

[sparkie]

I do recall a Navy Chief father in San Diego, wrongfully accused of child molestation taking 2 years to finally get his kids back. This stuff can be done on a wim, and a word. I DO NOT trust our child services to get anything 50% right. Not all cases are bogus, of course, But they do wield way too much power.

[Zulu 36]

I do recall a Navy Chief father in San Diego, wrongfully accused of child molestation taking 2 years to finally get his kids back. This stuff can be done on a wim, and a word. I DO NOT trust our child services to get anything 50% right. Not all cases are bogus, of course, But they do wield way too much power.

I'm not questioning this. I've had to rein in more than one hot-shot, fresh-from-college liberal protective services worker (with no kids of their own). They have zero common sense.

My mother was a CPS investigator (probably the only Republican in the office too). She was the one the cops and sheriff's deputies preferred to deal with. Mom knew the difference between discipline and abuse. She had been a Detroit cop AND raised seven kids of her own.

But a "penis lie detector type device" to discover molestation tendencies? I think not. That sounds like the old use the scout car radio microphone as a lie detector ploy. "If the red light comes on, that means you just lied to me."

[sparkie]

I'll have to tell my wife about this,,, When the red light comes on, Don't tell me you have a headache. My lie detector knows all. Kinda like Phonico's nose.

[elmacotech1988]

I am embarrassed and disappointed, I came here to ask those who took an oath just as I did, for help, help for those in great need, It's not like I was asking for something for myself. What do I get? Ridicule! And you cast aspersions on my state of mind.