What MOS is the least likely to be deployed?

[Zulu 36]

Sgt HMH is right. Police departments in general love to have former military people, and especially MPs. Military people bring a lot more strengths to the the police job than weaknesses. Discipline being one of them. On Day One of a police academy class I could spot the former military types without knowing their backgrounds ahead of time.

As Sgt HMH said, former military people almost always get the leadership jobs in the academy. I was my academy class leader and a former Army drill sergeant was my assistant. The Academy director at the time was a Korean War Marine.

Marine military police are trained in civilian-type "escalation of force" when doing law enforcement work because it applies, even in the military. When in a combat zone, doing combat things, they use ROE. Different sets of rules for completely different circumstances. MPs know the difference. The initials MP does not mean Mentally-deficient Person (although some might argue otherwise, but brig rats don't count).

Although MPs have the authority to be stricter about enforcement of certain rules, and an MP's order alone can be law, this is not completely the same in civilian police work. However, it is not a difficult adjustment to make for the vast majority. That's what police academies and Field Training Officer programs are for. Former military are toned down a bit in certain areas, trainees with no military experience are ramped up a bit. No biggie.

OK, E4B knows two guys who say they were rejected becase they were MPs. I suspect they came across poorly on their oral boards, or some other selection criteria such as their physical or psych eval. But that's just two guys - so what.

Konman, you make it sound like it is universally automatic to be rejected. Military people are not just "trained killers" and most PDs know that. Military people are trained to kill only under orders (ROE), just like police officers are with the "escalation of force" principles. Although to be PC, police agencies call it, "stopping the lethal force threat."

[MS753951]

Ok, kid. Lots of talking, not enough doing.
Why haven't you gone to a recruiter, yet?

You're 22. What have you been doing for the last 4 years?

I'm only 20.
I entered my birthday wrong.
I'm currently in college and was thinking about going the PLC or OCS route but have decided against it.
I have talked to a recruiter, when I was in high school but I went to a military high school, which didn't really allow recruiters on campus.
If people were interested in joining the service.
the school wanted them to talk to the ARMY JROTC and they usually were against joining the service because they wanted us to go to college.
A friend of mine joined the marines and just finished a tour in Iraq and he keeps trying to talk me out of joining.
But its something I want to do.
I was talking to an OCS/PLC recruiter but am trying to decide what I want to do, and which route to take.
I read on this site about MP's being rejected as possible civilian police officers and I don't want to get DQ' ed because I was an MP.
In that case I may try to become a helicopter pilot for the Marine Corps and eventually go reserves after 4 years and fly helicopters for a police department after the 2 year probationary period.
But as of right now I'm still trying to figure it out and don't want to waste recruiters time if I'm uncertain.

[MS753951]

You join the United States Marine Corps to go to War, every Marine is a Rifleman. There is no MOS that is not going to deployed in the Marine Corps. They are all important to the mission at hand in the Corps. They will all be needed at some point in time in the battle zones. If you don't want to be deployed and serve in the military join the Coast Guard. You will be joining the U.S. Marines and all MOSs support or are grunt units and will be on the front lines. U.S. Marines are Americas combat fighters from Nov 10, 1775 till the present. All the Marines you ask or will ask will feel the same way about your question about being deployed. As a Marine you will be deployed as a state of todays Marine Corps as this War is going on.

Semper Fi

I have no problem going to war.
I want to be an MP.
I explained the reason for the question earlier.

I apologize for the misinterpretation(which was my fault)
In the future I will reread the question to make sure it cant misinterpreted.

[MS753951]

If you serve and then get out and use what the Marine Corps gave you, there is nothing wrong with that. If you intend to join the Marine Corps as a stepping stone, you're making a horrible decision.



You seem to look at things in life as stepping stones. You do a disservice to everything other than your primary goal by doing that.

I understand where your coming from. I really do, but its not like I am going to any less of a job with the Marine Corps then I would with the a Police Department. I will do the very best job I can with both careers.
I want to join the Marines to serve my country along with getting skills that I can use later in life. Such as discipline, job skills and so on.

[MS753951]

OK, great. Police work can be very rewarding. However, from your posts several things jump out at me that you need to fix.

First, words mean things. When writing a police report on an arrest or a crime, accuracy is paramount. When you wrote (paraphrasing) "What is the least deployable MOS?" That statement asked for information on the MOS that was kept at home base the most and least likely to take trips anywhere. Most of the Marine vets took it to mean, how could you avoid combat. Now you claim that was not what you meant.

In a police report you will be held to exactly what you wrote by your bosses, prosecutors, defense attorneys, juries, and judges. Not what you meant. Better be accurate first time out or the heat you took here will be nothing like you'll take on the witness stand. A real dickhead defense attorney will make you look like a total idiot.

Second, the the word "I" is a first-person singular pronoun. It is ALWAYS capitilized regardless of where it appears in a sentence. If you think that is a minor matter, again, write police reports with that little error and see what happens. First your bosses will probably make your re-write the thing. Or, if it gets through, stupid little things like that are what defense attorneys hang their hats on to make you look like an error-making fool. If you make errors in writing reports, God, what kind of errors do you make in arresting people.

See my point? You want to be a cop, improve your writing. In the criminal law biz there is a maxim: "If it isn't in writing, it didn't happen." Unlike TV and the movies, cops spend a LOT of time writing reports and extremly little time out shooting people and beating them up. And if you DO shoot someone, standby for the report writing exercise of all time.

I agree. I haven't been paying close attention to my grammar or spelling or anything like that.
I was in a rush to get it all typed out(which isn't an excuse.) I will make a real conscious effort to correct all those types of mistakes from here on out.

As far as the MOS question goes. Once again I am sorry for the question. I didn't mean any harm by it. As I have explained earlier, the reason for the question which I should have stated in the beginning of the post. I know I have offended some people who have been deployed and I am also sorry for that. I meant no disrespect.


I am trying to correct the problem. If there is anything else I can do, to correct the problem. Please let me know.

[konman1]

I was only repeating what I was told, I never had any want to be a civi cop.

[Echo_Four_Bravo]

Zulu, it runs a little deeper than two guys that could have messed up oral boards. But, I will defer to you. I am sure you have been on both sides of the oral boards and you know what to look for. I just know what I have been told- and we both know that being told is far from the same as doing something.