Veteran Updates

[10thzodiac]

http://murray.senate.gov/vetupdates/update16.html

"The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional as to how they perceive the Veterans of earlier wars were treated and appreciated by their country."

– George Washington

[greensideout]

Yep, we need to return to the draft.

[bootlace15]

You got it....No Trespassing,unless you want to die!!!!!!! The old saying goes something like this. God Is POD at us,he plays his games and we play ours. But he still has us guarding his gates. Even he knows who we are!!!!!!!!!!

[greensideout]

Senator Murray must have never been to a VA facility. It's the best health care that I have received and I have very good health care with my paid health care program but it is trumped with what the VA offers!

As I see it, she is just singing a tune that will appeal to those that want to badmouth anything that is positive under this administration.

[jinelson]

As I see it, she is just singing a tune that will appeal to those that want to badmouth anything that is positive under this administration.

Well said Ron very well said indeed!

[10thzodiac]

Gentlemen,

The VA health care I receive at Hines VA, near Chicago is excellent, but I'm glad Senator Murray is working on the 3 BILLION dollar shortfall the VA says it has because the Republicans are sure not. Bill Clinton was the only president of the last four that has not cut veteran benefits. No, I didn't vote for Clinton or Bush, but my Marine WWII cousin (same surname) who was in Peleliu sent me to a letter asking me to vote for his man, Clinton.


Consider the following:

11.26.03

• With 130,000 soldiers still in the heat of battle in Iraq and more fighting and dying in Afghanistan, the Bush administration sought this year to cut $75 a month from the “imminent danger” pay added to soldiers’ paychecks when in battle zones. The administration sought to cut by $150 a month the family separation allowance offered to those same soldiers and others who serve overseas away from their families. Although they were termed “wasteful and unnecessary” by the White House, Congress blocked those cuts this year, largely because of Democratic votes.
• This year’s White House budget for Veterans Affairs cut $3 billion from VA hospitals—despite 9,000 casualties in Iraq and as aging Vietnam veterans demand more care. VA spending today averages $2,800 less per patient than nine years ago.
• The administration also proposed levying a $250 annual charge on all Priority 8 veterans—those with “non-service-related illnesses”—who seek treatment at VA facilities, and seeks to close VA hospitals to Priority 8 veterans who earn more than $26,000 a year.
• Until protests led to a policy change, the Bush administration also was charging injured GIs from Iraq $8 a day for food when they arrived for medical treatment at the Fort Stewart, Georgia, base where most injured are treated.
• In mid-October, the Pentagon, at the request of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, announced plans to shutter 19 commissaries—military-run stores that offer discounted food and merchandise that helps low-paid enlisted troops and their families get by—along with the possiblility of closing 19 more.
• At the same time, the Pentagon also announced it was trying to determine whether to shutter 58 military-run schools for soldiers’ children at 14 military installations.
• The White House is seeking to block a federal judge’s award of damages to a group of servicemen who sued the Iraqi government for torture during the 1991 Gulf War. The White House claims the money, to come from Iraqi assets confiscated by the United States, is needed for that country’s reconstruction.
• The administration beat back a bipartisan attempt in Congress to add $1.3 billion for VA hospitals to Bush’s request of $87 billion for war and reconstruction in Iraq and Afghanistan.
• In perhaps its most dangerous policy, the White House is refusing to provide more than 40,000 active-duty troops in Iraq with Kevlar body armor, leaving it up to them and their families to buy this life-saving equipment. This last bit of penny-pinching prompted Pentagon critic and Vietnam veteran Col. David Hackworth to point to “the cost of the extraordinary security” during Bush’s recent trip to Asia, which he noted grimly “would cover a vest for every soldier” in Iraq.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/idea...p-382071c.html

[OLE SARG]

The foregoing was considered - and in conclusion ms bill clinton still sucks!!!!!!!

"As I see it, she is just singing a tune that will appeal to those that want to badmouth anything that is positive under this administration." A VERY TRUE STATEMENT!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[10thzodiac]

The foregoing was considered - and in conclusion ms bill clinton still sucks!!!!!!!

"As I see it, she is just singing a tune that will appeal to those that want to badmouth anything that is positive under this administration." A VERY TRUE STATEMENT!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

If anyone knows anything positive under this administration for our troops or our veterans, I'm listening.

SF

#10

[bootlace15]

Hey everyone I think I know a positive thing they have done. Check it out. Free beer whenever they visit a military base?

[bootlace15]

oooooooooooppppppppsssssssssssss then again the beer is on the tax payer,so I guess I'm still thinking

[10thzodiac]

VA SECRETARY NICHOLSON "BLOWS SMOKE" IN NEWSWEEK
INTERVIEW -- Butt-covering and non-answers highlight
Secretary Nicholson's latest media appearance.



VA Secretary Nicholson's interview in the latest edition of Newsweek is a masterpiece of obfuscation.
I, obviously, was NOT a part of this interview process. But, I am going to respond to each of Nicholson's answers in the interest of being "fair and balanced."
My responses will be below Nicholson's.
Story here... http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15186412/site/newsweek/
Story below:
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‘Major Overhaul’
The secretary of Veterans Affairs discusses budgets, data theft and the health problems affecting soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

By Dan Ephron
Newsweek


Jim Nicholson, the secretary of Veterans Affairs, has been in the news lately for all the wrong reasons. Last week, congressional investigators from the Government Accountability Office found that the VA underestimated the cost of caring for veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan by billions of dollars. In May, Nicholson’s administration was embroiled in a data theft ordeal when a laptop containing the personal details of more than 26 million veterans and active-duty troops was stolen.

Nicholson, a Vietnam veteran and Republican Party activist, was appointed to the job by President Bush at the start of last year. He spoke to NEWSWEEK’s Dan Ephron recently about data theft, security and the health problems affecting returning Iraq and Afghanistan vets. Excerpts:


NEWSWEEK: How did your administration miss the budget mark by so much?
Jim Nicholson: Because of the Byzantine budgeting process of our government, you compute, submit and defend the budget about two years in advance of when you enter the budget cycle ... This shortfall occurred in the ’05 budget cycle. That was put together in early ’04 and the final numbers it used were from ’02. Well, we weren’t at war in ’02 and therefore because we were [at war later] and our needs increased as a result of it, a shortfall resulted in the system.
Larry Scott: But, we were at war in '04 when the budget was being put together. Even a simpleton would have included some "estimates" of war veterans who might use the VA and those figures would have been used to ask for a budget increase. But, this didn't happen. Why? Because the VA was too busy cutting the budget to meet White House demands. The GAO reported on this. That story here... http://www.vawatchdog.org/milcom/cookingthevasbooks.htm


NEWSWEEK: So if you were now trying to project your needs for next year, you’d use numbers from ’03?
Jim Nicholson: I’m now projecting for the ’08 budget and I’m using ’05 data … That’s the numerical case upon which the model is based. Do we apply some common sense and intuitive judgment? We are now. But that’s the basic model and you have to have something like this when you’re dealing with an enormous system … And it’s been very accurate, by the way, but it missed it for ’05 because it was predicated on numbers from ’02, which was pre-war.
Larry Scott: It's interesting that Nicholson admits they are now applying some common sense to the budget. Now, have about applying some money? Although, the VA is trying to use newer statistics, they are still not asking for the funding needed to care for all qualified veterans. What the VA is doing is telling the hospitals: Here is the money you have...so make it work. Instead, the VA should be seeking input from local facilities and giving them the funding needed to care for the veterans in their area.


NEWSWEEK: How many veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have sought treatment and other help at VA hospitals and clinics?
Jim Nicholson: We have seen about 188,000 of these people, and that’s out of almost 600,000 who’ve been discharged. To me, that’s not a surprisingly high number. It’s about a third of them. And all of the returning guard and reserve personnel are eligible for our services even though they haven’t been discharged.
Larry Scott: This statistic is close to reality. Now, how about getting the funding to care for these veterans? We know that services have been cut in many VA facilities and the waiting lists get longer and longer.


NEWSWEEK: What do they seek help for?
Jim Nicholson: It’s a variety of things. Some of it is dental, some of it is skeletal, muscular, mental. It’s a whole array. I think I’d be correct in saying it’s mostly for back problems and dental problems.
Larry Scott: Notice that Nicholson dodged the issue of mental health problems.


NEWSWEEK: What percentage come in for emotional trauma, things that might look like posttraumatic stress disorder [PTSD]?
Jim Nicholson: The number is 29,000, so I think it’s about 16 percent. That’s [as] of last month.
Larry Scott: Observers feel this number is way low. If the VA is budgeting for mental health based on this number, look for major problems in the future as veterans wait and wait to get care. Look at this story...
http://www.vawatchdog.org/old%20newsflashes%
20MAY%2006/newsflash05-06-2006-3.htm


NEWSWEEK: How was it that the budget for brain trauma was cut in a period when soldiers are surviving attacks more and more but suffering from brain trauma caused by explosions?
Jim Nicholson: I was in Iraq last month again for the purpose of assessing the continuum of health care from the time a soldier is injured through the evacuation process, when they come to us. It’s astonishing how good both the armor protection and the battlefield care and evacuation are. As a result of that, many of these people who are coming back severely injured, would be coming back in body bags in any other previous engagement, including Vietnam. So we get these people who are alive but seriously injured and we have reacted in a spectacular way. We’ve set up these polytrauma centers … we’ve aggregated the medical disciplines in one place to take of them. If they’re suffering from blast injuries, limb problems, burns, blindness, we have the experts together in these centers to take care of all of that so they don’t have to be moved around. We’re now opening 17 more of them … Our ’07 budget request includes a total of about $3.2 billion for mental health, which is $340 million above last year.
Larry Scott: Notice that Nicholson did NOT answer the question.


NEWSWEEK: Out of an overall budget of what?
Jim Nicholson: For ’07, which will start one Oct. 1 … the budget will be in the neighborhood of $80 billion, which will be up from $70 billion in this current fiscal year.
Larry Scott: Fairly accurate, but...will it be enough to take care of veterans? NO!


NEWSWEEK: Some National Guardsmen and reservists worry that they have a two-year window to seek help for trauma and if they miss that window—if PTSD symptoms occur later, for instance—they won’t be eligible. Is that fair?
Jim Nicholson: We’re being very aggressive, very robust in our outreach to these people, seeing that they’re all briefed. We were just briefing them at post deployment about all they’re entitled to and things to look out for in themselves, but we realized their concentration levels were not high at that time. They were more fixated on getting back with their families and their communities, so what we’re doing now is bringing them back together 30 to 45 days after postdeployment and rebriefing them on all that’s available for them. As veterans, our vet centers will always be available to them. After the 24 months, if some service-connected disability presents itself, they’ll be taken care of.
Larry Scott: Yes, but many units are not making sure the required mental health post-deployment counseling is taking place. Many commanders just don't want the hassles. Story here...
http://www.vawatchdog.org/old%20newsflashes%
20MAR%2006/newsflash03-10-2006-9.htm


NEWSWEEK: Most veterans of Vietnam, the war you fought in, were not received well by the public when they returned home because of the contentiousness of that war. How does that compare with the situation today?
Jim Nicholson: In my little hometown they called out the National Guard company for me to inspect as a way of honoring me [when I came back from Vietnam]. It was a Saturday night, the armory was filled with people. I then went back to West Point, and I was going to graduate school in New York City at Columbia, at which time I wore civilian clothes. But if I had been wearing my uniform they would have spit on me. So that was very discouraging to me to see the reaction in the civilian population and the lack of understanding and appreciation for what we were going through over there. I would point out the distinction today. Whereas there is considerable disagreement in this country about this war, there is virtually no disagreement about these warriors. I get on airplanes and some of these young people get on the plane in uniform and the people break out in applause.
Larry Scott: Good comment.


NEWSWEEK: What effect does that have on the emotional trauma soldiers might end up experiencing down the road?
Jim Nicholson: I think intuitively that … an awful lot of my comrades who came back from Vietnam were never affirmed, and they’d been through hell and that contributed to some of their psychological, mental problems—that they had no feeling of appreciation or understanding or affirmation for what they’d just been through for their country. And I think with some, that had an indelible impact.
Larry Scott: He really didn't address the issue here. The question was about today's soldiers, not older vets.


NEWSWEEK: Another difference between the two wars: in Vietnam soldiers for the most part did one tour of duty. Now, soldiers are being sent back to Iraq three or four times. What’s the long-term implication in terms of emotional trauma and how do you build that into the planning?
Jim Nicholson: We don’t have any evidence-based studies on this. We’re going to continue to look at that as we treat veterans. If you think about World War II, for example, people went out and were deployed [for years]. I know World War II veterans who didn’t see their spouses for four years … What was the effect of that versus having these intervals of deployment? I don’t know, but those are things we’re looking at and want to know more about.
Larry Scott: Specifics, please! What specific study is the VA doing to ascertain the emotional toll on troops with multiple deployments? To my knowledge, there isn't any such study.


NEWSWEEK: What are you doing to prevent more data theft?
Jim Nicholson: We’ve engaged a company to do a constant analysis of that [stolen] data to see if there are any trends that show that it had been compromised and is being used. We’re also in a major overhaul in this department … We’re allowing employees only to have VA-owned computers. Everything that possibly can is going to be encrypted. We’re going to do background investigations on people who have access to data here. The man who took this computer home against our policies, and had been doing it for three years, he’d been working here for 34 years and had not had a background investigation in 32 years. So the model of classified documents, where people have to have background investigations and clearances, we’re doing similarly here because we have to know who it is we’re entrusting with information about our veterans … We’re in a major overhaul of information security.
Larry Scott: The VA is finally doing what they were told to do many years ago. If they had instituted IT security measures when told, the VA data heist never would have happened.

FINAL NOTE FROM Larry Scott: Jim Nicholson gives a good interview. He should. He is a consummate politician. He gives just enough information to satisfy most "not-too-curious" reporters...but not enough information to really address the issues at hand.
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Larry Scott