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08-02-06, 03:04 PM #61
Noooooooooooo - it's..............
OOHRAH!
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08-02-06, 03:17 PM #62
"I have to say I did not expect, at all, this type of camaraderie and love from all of you; I do not deserve any of this."
jm4magic-
I don't love you. Besides...we just met and I can't see a future for us. LMAO. But you do deserve proper responses to any questions or inquiries that you ask in a respectful manner. It took some moxie to tell us your situation and your feelings. Continued success to you, no matter what transpires.
Respectfully,
Gary
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08-02-06, 03:25 PM #63Originally Posted by tkmac58
My apologies again.
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08-02-06, 04:13 PM #64
OhhRah!
Originally Posted by Poskew
What is this???
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08-02-06, 05:43 PM #65
JM4magic, I don't know if you are pulling our leg or not about your father saying he would be embarassed to be a Marine and that all Marines are poor. I suspect you are just trying to ruffle a few feathers.
Just in case you are serious, I was far from poor when I voluntarily joined the Marines (the finest force to ever be assembled) just out of college back in 1966. If, in fact, he did say that, he is a very ungrateful man and one stupid son-of -a-*****.
You will be much better off in life if you do not try to pay too much attention to his advise.
best wishes to you and to hell with you dad.
J. Robert Lee
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08-02-06, 06:10 PM #66
Speaking of important Marines...... how about Lee Marvin, Capt. Kangaroo and Mister Rogers!!
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08-02-06, 07:00 PM #67
yeah and the spanish women you think about when listening to Boys of Summer by Don Henley and the Eagles.
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08-02-06, 07:19 PM #68
That is not very patriotic of your father. He should be proud of you...Marines are the best and the military keeps our country free so that your dad can be CEO of that big company and have money. I come from a wealthy family and I am joing...my parents are proud...and maybe your father will be too on graduation day when you become a Marine!!!!
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08-02-06, 08:07 PM #69
For Richer or Poorer
Marines are Marines whether rich or poor.
Semper Fi:
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08-02-06, 08:11 PM #70
your daddy sounds like an a-hole to me tell him cpl mac USMC said so
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08-02-06, 08:38 PM #71Originally Posted by jm4magic
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08-02-06, 08:48 PM #72
YEAH what the Marine said above me
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08-02-06, 10:33 PM #73
I got one brewing.. tell him to get his jogging pants on.. I can't hold on too much longer for him!
Listen, brother.. FORGET what you're father says.. EARN THAT TITLE.. and if he still don't support you and be proud of you.. you have the CORPS!
STAY MOTO god-damnit!!
MOTIVATED,
-Jon
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08-03-06, 10:57 PM #74
My parents don't want me killed in a modern day reenactment of the Vietnam War. My entire family is against the way the 'war on terrorism' is being persued by George W. Bush, including my ex-navy grandfather who ran for congress as a goldwater republican at the height of the Vietnam conflict. I share, to a large extent, the liberal outlook of my family; but I believe in service to country, and I feel that since I come from an upper middle-class background, I should be doing my bit like all the others serving in our military to help us pull out of these turbulent times.
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08-04-06, 05:12 AM #75
I believe this woman has hit on what bothers your father...the loss of some high moral ground and why the rich and famous avoid serving...less than one percent of their group even thinks about serving...
We're in a world of chit...
And we are not even aware...
Absence Of America's Upper Classes From The Military
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2270473&page=1
Some exceprts from that long article/story...
When the deciders are disconnected from the doers,
self-government can't work as it should.
action for our country rarely see members of their families
doing the deeds these leaders would send them to do, deeds which
have such moment in the world. These deeds hardly begin and end
with the Iraq War — 200,000 U.S. troops are deployed in 130
other countries around the world, keeping it "flat," in Thomas
Friedman's phrase. They train other nation's security forces,
help keep the peace, provide humanitarian assistance, rescuing
Americans from Lebanon, standing ready to go to Darfur if sent,
to go wherever the country calls on them for assistance — in
short they do the complex work of the world's sole superpower.
Yet these doers are strangers to most of us, and the very
missions they do are mysterious.
A study by the eminent military sociologist Charles Moskos
shows that the population of a democracy is not willing to sustain
military engagements over time if the leadership class does not
also serve in the armed forces. Its lack of service sends a signal
that the conflict is not vital, or worthwhile. Since we don't know
what conflicts will come — or which party will be in power when
they do — these findings should matter to all of us.
In past wars — even long-haul wars like the Cold War — the
Kennedys, the Bushes, the Sulzbergers of The New York Times
served. Sure, there were always shirkers, but many did join their
middle-class and working-class compatriots. Today narrow
self-interest, a sense of "other priorities" or a misguided sense
of moral preference means most of the upper class never
considers military service.
An idea expressed by many, including many in the upper classes, that it is somehow more moral to refrain from military
service than to serve, because that way one can avoid an "immoral" war.
the nation's bidding. And we want those who are sent to act with
skill, judgment and integrity. Many of those who serve see that
Americans are being sent to act in agency of our country and
say, as the famous sage Rabbi Hillel said, "If not me, who?"
Military service is not a political statement. Democrats did not
rush to sign up when Clinton became president, and wealthy
Republicans didn't suddenly join when Bush was elected. Military
service is service to the country, and even more perhaps, service
to your fellows.
But how can we expect privileged young people to do
military work? Military work is dangerous. You could be asked
to kill or be killed. It is fraught with the risk of being sent into
an unpopular conflict, as many now understand Iraq to be. Why
should the children of our leadership classes or those ambitious
for leadership chose such a path, when there are so many better
options available to them?
principled statement. We sell it instead as a job opportunity, one
from which those with "better options" are excused. We need to
revisit our stance on who should serve, and why. All members of
our elites need not serve, just a representative number, enough to
bring the leadership in line with the rest of the country, to bring
the wisdom and perspective that in the aggregate can come with
experience and responsibility. With such leaders, with such a
military, we will be a stronger, fairer, better country. With such
leaders, the enlistment plans of young Jimmy McCain need not
seem so surprising.
Semper Fidelis
Ricardo
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