I know America's real enemy do you?

[Mike McIntyre]

Is this for real? Did I miss something? I was not aware that being hot headed, vindictive, and racial were USMC attributes? I was hoping for Courage, Honor, Duty, Loyalty, and Country.

[Osotogary]

Are Anger Management Classes out of the question? LOL
It seems to me that you live an very interesting life fraught with a lot of stress and strain. I don't know how you can maintain such a high level of intensity on a daily basis. I guess...good for you if you can do it. I can't or should I say, I don't allow myself be on the hostility clock 24 hours a day. If I did I'm convinced I would have been dead no later than the 1970's. Stress sucks. Like I said, good for you.
Adios from South Florida

[10thzodiac]

Is this for real? Did I miss something? I was not aware that being hot headed, vindictive, and racial were USMC attributes? I was hoping for Courage, Honor, Duty, Loyalty, and Country.

So many Marines here have attested that the movie "Full Metal Jacket", "Jarhead" and may I add "Boys in Company "C" were similar to their Marine experience. Are you brain dead?

Where did you see racial as part of my post of Marine material, I know what you are missing, firing on all four cylinders.

I was hoping for Courage, Honor, Duty, Loyalty, and Country does make good copy

Remember what Chesty said, "Take me to the Brig. I want to see the real Marines."

Maybe it was the Brownies you were in?

[10thzodiac]

Are Anger Management Classes out of the question? LOL
It seems to me that you live an very interesting life fraught with a lot of stress and strain. I don't know how you can maintain such a high level of intensity on a daily basis. I guess...good for you if you can do it. I can't or should I say, I don't allow myself be on the hostility clock 24 hours a day. If I did I'm convinced I would have been dead no later than the 1970's. Stress sucks. Like I said, good for you.
Adios from South Florida

63 1/2 non-smoker and in good shape no Viagra, but I'm sure if I hang around long enough, something will get me. I'm heavily insured and the wife might be happier. A Jewish lawyer told me (before my Workman's compensation testimony) never say you can't, the only thing you can't do is not die and opposing consul will screw you around till hell freezes over with the word can't.

SF

[FistFu68]

JUST HAD DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,U.S.MARSHAL'S GO GET THE PLT. ROSTER FROM PLT.394~MCRD~SAN DIEGO~1960~WILL FIND OUT THE REAL DEAL! HAVE A NICE DAY!

[Mike McIntyre]

Where did you see racial as part of my post of Marine material, I know what you are missing, firing on all four cylinders.


A Jewish lawyer told me (before my Workman's compensation testimony)


I've showed on this thread that I had good feelings for my Jewish/American High School coaches


Palestinian worker in my shop came to me and was complaining about our German born ass hole

I represented two Jewish co-workers as they were being fired. One was a Puerto Rican and played the Jewish card because his boss was also a German.

Most of new my neighbors are Hispanic and they are 10 X better than the Anglo's that left.

I rest my case!

[horselady]

Fortunately the neighborhood I live in has changed for the better. Most of new my neighbors are Hispanic and they are 10 X better than the Anglo's that left. If my Anglo neighbors ever decide to move back, I'd would move in a f'n heart beat. Of the reaming Anglos on both sides of my street/block there is only two ass holes left not counting me number three. I'm not going to mention their ethnic heritage but its none of the above. I had a garage sale last year and the ass hole (ancient feud) kitty corner across the street from me called the cops on me for blocking the street one lane with my car to accommodate my garage sale shoppers. The next day I called the cops on him for having a commercial dump truck parked in a residential zone. After the cops left we got into it verbally him attacking that I'm only a flag wavier (My American & Marine Corps Flag that flies everyday in front of my house) my Japanese/car (wife) that he buys American, blah, blah. I went to the middle middle of the street and told him I was going to kick his ass till his nose bled.
He wasn't for that. Well, later I went to that powerful tool the computer and did some checking. Ah-ha, that SOB's property tax profile was completely inaccurate by many tens of thousands of dollars. It was listed as frame one story 25X35, no fireplace, no garage, no central air and no garage. All of the aforementioned was not true. Here's the kicker, he does not principally reside there his daughter & son-in-law do. I'm sure he's taking a homestead exemption there (more expensive of the two properties he owns) that requires his residency there under penalty of perjury. Well guess what I did

Don't get mad, just get even, the SOB won't even look at me anymore. Oh, his big bad son-in-law who just got back from the middle east who's in the army reserves that tells everybody he's in special forces glares at me when he sees me, lol...maybe someday...

I have the most craziest son-in-law in the F'n world. The guy is utterly fearless, wants to fight everybody coming and going. He loves to fight! He can't even go to Mc Donald's without getting into a fight. Both my son and daughter have first degree black belts in Japanese full contact karate and are afraid of him. When he gets Pi*sed at me (often) I put a gun at my front and back door, by my lazy boy chair, one in the garage and carry one. My son told him, if he F's with him he's going to shoot his whole family, his sister too. Another hot head.

Took him to Universal Studios Fla. once he got into a fight with Hercules there. Three fights in a week. Not to mention road rage...

Definite Marine Material, unfortunately for the Corps he's 4-F (heart valve) but my grandson, his boy 7 y/o is just like his dad and has been wrestling since 4 y/o and just as fearless as his dad pushing around bigger and older boys than him even at wrestling and every time he comes over he wants to see my guns.

SF

I think I missed something, Zodiac. Either because I am a dumblonde or I just can't figure out where you're going here? However, I am more than familiar with the hothead Marine personality as I married one. In fact when I first met him (several years out of the Corps), he told me he was a "trained killer!" LOL
Even to this day, when I startle him (because he didn't hear me enter the room or something), he assumes the old "offensive position" crouched with
imaginary rifle in his hands aimed at my head! He'll have that "if looks could kill" look in his eyes for a split second, until he realizes it's me, but I understand that those same instincts are what helped him survive in combat.

I'm sure there's a logical analogy to be made between your neighborhood and Israel's, but I've obviously missed it so maybe you could explain it to me in simpler terms?

[Zulu 36]

Yeah, I'm missing something in those posts too. But, I have picked up a few things.

First, we're trying to discuss the Middle East with an anti-semite and U.S. security with a liberal/socialist/Marxist/all of the above.

Second, the whole thrust of 10thZodiac's posts remind me of the long-haired hippy types, who claimed to be Vietnam vets, and represented the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. I had numerous dealings with those VVAW characters in Iwakuni and Okinawa. They talked just like Zodiac writes as they tried to proselyte young Marines. In fact, their cute little periodic "newsletter" reads almost like Zodiac's posts. Just as vulgar and full of vindictive "argument supporting" quotes out of context.

Either that or he has fallen on his head once too many times. This is my excuse.

Regardless, this is my last post on the subject.

[horselady]

See PM

Yeah, I'm missing something in those posts too. But, I have picked up a few things.

First, we're trying to discuss the Middle East with an anti-semite and U.S. security with a liberal/socialist/Marxist/all of the above.

Second, the whole thrust of 10thZodiac's posts remind me of the long-haired hippy types, who claimed to be Vietnam vets, and represented the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. I had numerous dealings with those VVAW characters in Iwakuni and Okinawa. They talked just like Zodiac writes as they tried to proselyte young Marines. In fact, their cute little periodic "newsletter" reads almost like Zodiac's posts. Just as vulgar and full of vindictive "argument supporting" quotes out of context.

Either that or he has fallen on his head once too many times. This is my excuse.

Regardless, this is my last post on the subject.

[BigCat1]

Zodiac...you are about the most anti-semetic person I have ever encountered....you really need to get a grip on reality and the reality of the situation over there. How anyone as anti-semetic as you were ever allowed the privalege of serving in my Marine Corps is beyond me.

[junker316]

Every-one here has already declared thier final feelings on this. Some think that Isreal has undermined America and wishes for us to go on a rampage with them in destorying Lebenon, Gaza, and the rest of the Muslum Nations surrounding them. Others believe that Isreal is just defending what is rightfully thiers and even may have the right to reclaim land lost over a thousand years ago. The thread was " DO YOU KNOW WHO IS AMERICA"S WORST ENEMY" not " Do you know if Isreal or the Arabian Nations are right". We all have exclaimed our views and added to this issue without even a notion of what the answer may be. Some have used words of others against them and even quoted others to prove a point. But the final facts are laid out as this...
1. Will America back Isreal if the Isreali go to far?

2. What does Isreal have to gain from all this except a Jihad against them from awaiting Muslum Nations?

3. Who knows really who is America's worst Enemy?

4. At what point do we all decide that America's worst enemy needs exterminated?

5. Who is going to be around do it when the time comes?

6. When is the History lessons going to stop and the facts come out?

7. What kind of world are we leaving to our childern?

8. Finally...what are we teaching our childern to do?

I believe that if we as parents teach our childern that all people of this world have a right to live in peace and harmony then maybe we as parents have just granted our families a better gift than by teaching them that War and Death of those that don't agree with us are to be the final judgement. It doesn't really matter who is America's worst enemy until America has some-one in office that is respouncible enough to run America for Americans and not for the lining of thier own damn pockets. Between the Liberal, the extreme left wingers, and the anti Americans in America we have enough of the worst enemies here. People who disrepect the funeral proceedings of a service member that died fighting for America. people who only see green as the color of the ole mighty dollar. People who are willing to send others to war while thier own bank accounts increase from the spoils of it. And those losing life and blood trying thier best to create a peaceful world for all to live in and upon returning home not able to receive the treatment needed to help them establish thier own lives again after what they have done. We as Americans have been forced into being the World's Police Force for so many years that when we do try to do our best and create a peaceful solution to an issue some-one wants paid for it. You don't see Russia paying off terrorists to keep them at bay from it's cities and people...you don't see other realible nations doing it either. But yet America has had it's ample time to secure a future for itself and allowed those within to corrupt it and dismantle it until now we are faced with border problems, Illegals running throughout our land, Massive Drug problems, under manned police forces facing off with criminals that have better weapons than they do, Higher rates over the last ten years, and the possiblity that our grand childern or great grand childern may face off with our nieghbors to the north and the south to reclaim America for themselves. Those who believe that America owes them for whatever happened to thier families hundreds of years ago. The rich people childern believing that it is the job of the working class and poorer peoples childern to defend America while they go out and live up life with no worries because Mommy or Daddy will pay for everything, Not to mention other things. So unless you can answer my question..." WHO IS WHO'S WORST ENEMY?????" I think that this thread is done.

Every-one made good points about what they thought. I applaude the effort to maintain a decent article to discuss. But no-one can see with blinders on and until they take them off the light will never come into thier eyes. I am a Marine and if being a Marine would puts me in some sort of disadvantage then so be it. I will always defend my Country and my family. I love my Country but think those who are in power right now are doing nothing for it except lining thier pockets with blood monies earned by those of us who been there and done that. Semper Fi.

[Pialphamu]

[quote=Zulu 36]

Either that or he has fallen on his head once too many times. This is my excuse.

[quote]
ROFLMAO!!

[horselady]

Every-one here has already declared thier final feelings on this. Some think that Isreal has undermined America and wishes for us to go on a rampage with them in destorying Lebenon, Gaza, and the rest of the Muslum Nations surrounding them. Others believe that Isreal is just defending what is rightfully thiers and even may have the right to reclaim land lost over a thousand years ago. The thread was " DO YOU KNOW WHO IS AMERICA"S WORST ENEMY" not " Do you know if Isreal or the Arabian Nations are right". We all have exclaimed our views and added to this issue without even a notion of what the answer may be. Some have used words of others against them and even quoted others to prove a point. But the final facts are laid out as this...
1. Will America back Isreal if the Isreali go to far?

2. What does Isreal have to gain from all this except a Jihad against them from awaiting Muslum Nations?

3. Who knows really who is America's worst Enemy?

4. At what point do we all decide that America's worst enemy needs exterminated?

5. Who is going to be around do it when the time comes?

6. When is the History lessons going to stop and the facts come out?

7. What kind of world are we leaving to our childern?

8. Finally...what are we teaching our childern to do?

I believe that if we as parents teach our childern that all people of this world have a right to live in peace and harmony then maybe we as parents have just granted our families a better gift than by teaching them that War and Death of those that don't agree with us are to be the final judgement. It doesn't really matter who is America's worst enemy until America has some-one in office that is respouncible enough to run America for Americans and not for the lining of thier own damn pockets. Between the Liberal, the extreme left wingers, and the anti Americans in America we have enough of the worst enemies here. People who disrepect the funeral proceedings of a service member that died fighting for America. people who only see green as the color of the ole mighty dollar. People who are willing to send others to war while thier own bank accounts increase from the spoils of it. And those losing life and blood trying thier best to create a peaceful world for all to live in and upon returning home not able to receive the treatment needed to help them establish thier own lives again after what they have done. We as Americans have been forced into being the World's Police Force for so many years that when we do try to do our best and create a peaceful solution to an issue some-one wants paid for it. You don't see Russia paying off terrorists to keep them at bay from it's cities and people...you don't see other realible nations doing it either. But yet America has had it's ample time to secure a future for itself and allowed those within to corrupt it and dismantle it until now we are faced with border problems, Illegals running throughout our land, Massive Drug problems, under manned police forces facing off with criminals that have better weapons than they do, Higher rates over the last ten years, and the possiblity that our grand childern or great grand childern may face off with our nieghbors to the north and the south to reclaim America for themselves. Those who believe that America owes them for whatever happened to thier families hundreds of years ago. The rich people childern believing that it is the job of the working class and poorer peoples childern to defend America while they go out and live up life with no worries because Mommy or Daddy will pay for everything, Not to mention other things. So unless you can answer my question..." WHO IS WHO'S WORST ENEMY?????" I think that this thread is done.

Every-one made good points about what they thought. I applaude the effort to maintain a decent article to discuss. But no-one can see with blinders on and until they take them off the light will never come into thier eyes. I am a Marine and if being a Marine would puts me in some sort of disadvantage then so be it. I will always defend my Country and my family. I love my Country but think those who are in power right now are doing nothing for it except lining thier pockets with blood monies earned by those of us who been there and done that. Semper Fi.

Thank you for your service junker. I appreciate your viewpoint, and even agree with many of your issues about what is wrong with America. I agree that many of those with a lot of money allow others not so fortunate to serve in the armed forces while they stay behind...but not everyone. You should read "Warload" by Ilario Pantano, one of your fellow Marines. But we have a volunteer military now, and from what I've heard, it is a far superior military to what it was when we had the more equitable draft.

People who disrespect funerals for fallen heroes should be thrown in jail to rot for the rest of their lives in my opinion. Returning veterans should be entitled to everything they need in order to resume their lives and I would take it away from the leeches of society, the able-bodied welfare recipients and single, unemployed mothers whose 6 kids are all from different fathers.

AS for whether Russia pays off its terrorists, I don't know, but if they are, it isn't working. The Saudis paid off the terrorists yet even they have been the targets of terrorism. And yes we have a big problem with illegals but the country is finally waking up to it and getting angry which is already changing the tone of Congress, no longer so willing to give away amnesty without securing the borders first. The Senate bill is DOA that would have allowed amnesty and the House bill, for security first and maybe in a few years consider what to do with the illegals already here, is gaining support from both parties.

As far as people getting rich off war or the stock market or any other way,
that is the nature of a free, capitalistic society. It isn't always fair to everyone but everyone has the same opportunity to succeed if they want to
badly enough. Winston Churchill said it best,"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery."

Israel, the US, and the rest of the free world, are fighting an idealology of hatred, a 7th century culture, bent on destroying society as we know it. Yes, it is a clash of civilizations and war with a religion that has its basis in forcing everyone to believe in it and if they will not, they must be killed.

Their MO comes right out of their holy books, i.e., the Qur'an:

Qur’an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an 9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

Qur’an 9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

Qur’an 8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

Qur’an 8:65 “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding.”

Qur’an 8:73 “The unbelieving infidels are allies. Unless you (Muslims) aid each other (fighting as one united block to make Allah’s religion victorious), there will be confusion and mischief. Those who accepted Islam, left their homes to fight in Allah’s Cause (al-Jihad), as well as those who give them asylum, shelter, and aid—these are (all) Believers: for them is pardon and bountiful provision (in Paradise).”

Qur’an 47:4 “When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam.”

Qur’an 4:74 “Let those who fight in Allah’s Cause sell this world’s life for the hereafter. To him who fights in Allah’s Cause, whether he is slain or victorious, We shall give him a reward.”

Qur’an 4:78 “Wherever you are, death will find you, even if you are in towers strong and high! So what is wrong with these people, that they fail to understand these simple words?”

Qur’an 4:104 “And do not relent in pursuing the enemy.”

Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.
If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah’s enemies.”

Qur’an 33:60 “Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, they shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy—a fierce slaughter—murdered, a horrible murdering.

There is no negotiating with peope who are willing to die and take everyone
else with them for their cause. They keep telling us this and if we don't take them seriously, they will take us over, maybe not in a year or ten years, but as we've seen, the Muslim fanatics have infinite patience. We have a military code of justice, rules of engagement, Geneva conventions as well as our own Judeo/Chrisitan beliefs. They have the Qur'an.

Which shall prevail?

[10thzodiac]

JUST HAD DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,U.S.MARSHAL'S GO GET THE PLT. ROSTER FROM PLT.394~MCRD~SAN DIEGO~1960~WILL FIND OUT THE REAL DEAL! HAVE A NICE DAY!

If you had a brain you would be dangerous


I'm really scared, this is the INTERNET and I am the department of justice maggot.


lol

[greensideout]

10thzodiac---You have worn many of us thin (at least me) with your attack of Jews, Israel, Germans and just about anybody you can come up with to start trouble. Therein lies the problem! It seems that you are on a quest for trouble. Strange however, that you do not have a problem with the people that America is fighting? The same enemy that Israel is fighting. Maybe you should be on an Islamic web site?