Question?? Service Numbers

[DELTA2ALPHA]

Per "1sgtmikes" request to stir up more posting...I ask this question..??

When did the USMC change from service numbers to SSN#'s.And,the big one,what was the last service number issued??

I do not know the answer.Just wanted some input from the Search GURU's.

MIKE,
2297440

[GyG1345]

I have no reference data on this, but just for statrters, it seems like the MSNs disappeared in the very late '60s and the last MSNs I recall were in the 220s...

Matter of fact, have never seen any references to this since I've been on the I'Net!

Interesting topic, though.

DickG

[firstsgtmike]

Ifwe get enough responses, we can work it out. Pretty close.

DELTA2ALPHA came aboard in 1966 with a service number of 229xxxx. Does anyone have a number higher than that, and when did you come aboard?

I'm embarrassed, I was on recruiting in '68 and don't remember if service numbers were still being used then.

Mike

[DELTA2ALPHA]

Tanx for the quick response.My # was issued in late '66.The only reference seen on net was late '68..mid '69..and end of 1972.Still no ref. to last number issued.
Get on it guys.Know you will come through.
MIKE

[fabboss]

yes service numbers were still used in 68, last 4 digets were part of your kia/wia number in that south east asia vacation land knew some with 23 starting numbers early 70's when they went to ssn's probably 72/73 since i was on a army installation at the time and never received new dogtags like i would have if happened when was with the fmf


USMC THE VIETCONG FOR LUNCH BUNCH

[DELTA2ALPHA]

Sparrowhawk was just after me.Number please....
MIKE

[thedrifter]

I know that sometime in the late 60's they stopped issuing Service Numbers........Can remember my SRB with both my MSN and my SSN on all the pages..........Would be interesting to know what the last MSN was..........LOL.......Mine was in the 1800000 Bracket............LMAO.......Yep I'm one of the old Corps......

Sempers,

Roger

[GyG1345]

and got a 1345 prefix MSN--only the recruits from the Boston area got #s that high--after arriving at PISC, the rest of Plt #437 had 128/129 prefixes.

I also recall that Korean Vets had a K in front of their MSNs until about 1954-55 (admin only, not a permanent part of the MSN--rosters/orders/SRBs, etc.)

Of course, Reserves were shown as USMCR, and draftees as USMC SS.

Went back to RVN in summer of 70--pretty sure we were using SSNs then.

Just related info that triggered into my Mind Housing Group w/this question re MSN to SSN.

DickG

[DELTA2ALPHA]

AwRignt drifter,got you on the hook.
Keep diggin.
My IRR discharge in '72 had a MSN,but the VA card recieved had a SSN#.
Saw replcements from 27th Marines
with high 23 numbers in early '67.My guess is that MSN went into the 25's before ending.Any help here??
MIKE

[firstsgtmike]

I found a 268xxxx reference from July '70.

Also, I just had some memory jogged. Each AFEES had a block of serial numbers to work from. While the numbers were sequential within a given AFEES, twenty Marines could all enlist on the same day, at twenty different locations, and you would never be able to tell from their serial numbers.

Mike

[GyG1345]

Another point of recall came through--7s & 17s were reserved for WR/WMs...

DickG

[MillRatUSMC]

I believe that change was started in 1966, there was a mix bag.
Some were still be issued Service Numbers and others were issued their Social Security Number as ID.
Been checking on the change.
But the use of Social Security Numbers has its draw backs, case in point.
Some senior military leaders are up in arms, seem that their social security numbers are or were part of the congressinal record.
Thus it was public domain.
They than made used of those social security numbers to obtain a credit card in that person's name.
Some might have gotten their social security numbers there or from a site that has a great deal of information on how to get information on anyone.

http://www.glr.com/stalk.html
Start with a little info here and a little there, before you know it.
You have a big picture.
Also social security numbers might give an enemy a starting point.
To gather more information on our Officers.
This if for no other reason.
Might necessiate a change back to
Service Numbers" IMHO

Semper Fidelis
Ricardo

[DELTA2ALPHA]

Good point 1sgt. Now that you jogged memories, I just remembered,Marines that enlisted after me had a lower MSN.Could be a factor for whatever reason.Not a big deal,as all Marines respect and show respect to their brother Marines,the point is now moot.
MIKE

[wrbones]

http://www.archives.gov/facilities/m...y_numbers.html


They say 1 January 1972 was when the changeover became effective.

Don't have a clue as to how to find the last one issued, though.

If you could find the Marine Corps Order fer that, or the manual the office pogues used, it might be a help.

[firstsgtmike]

Sometimes, when you start thinking out loud, it causes an epidemic.

Another "public domain" for social security numbers. For years, discharged servicemen were advised to register their DD-214s at their County Recorder's Office. This was so that in the event a DD-214 was lost, it would still be available and on-record at the local Recorder's Office.

Mike