Allowing Homosexuals Would Boost Military Recruitment, Group Argues

[Joseph P Carey]

Originally posted by Sgted

Furthermore, to group homosexuals (male or female) with pedophiles and homocidal maniacs is wrong.

I fully back the "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Gays have served and will continue to serve honorably. Some have made careers in the Armed Forces of this country. The vast majority of these men & women did so without ever acting inappropriately.

For the record, Sgt Ed, I made the comment about the jail birds, because of the story lead that said 40,000 homosexuals were willing to join the service to augment the recruiting problem. It was a tongue in cheek comment to what could be done, but would never be accepted. If you will note, I also made the comment that we are not so foolish to think that there have not been, or are not, homosexuals in the service, but they are governed by the 'Don't ask, Don't tell!" policy. They do their job, and they keep their liaisons to themselves. No problem there! Overt actions are subject to UCMJ!

I still say that the Canadian Armed Forces would probably take them in the open!

[PTWARRIOR]

I say let every service decide what they want in thier ranks.The MARINE CORPS will definitely not accept this type of character .In my opinion my very own personal opinion "I don't think we should have females in the Corps."
But that is another subject.

[outlaw3179]

oh oh ! did I just hear a can of worms opening? lol

[sm@@thrider]

Originally posted by Joseph P Carey
As I am sure that allowing prisoners out of jail to join the service may help too, maybe a whole unit of Sexual Predators, or perhaps a Platoon of Armed Robbers, or yet, even maybe a Company of Homicidal Maniacs would certainly improve our lot in the world, but I am sure that no men of honor would want this kind of rabble to be in their units, as well as someone more concerned about the curtains on the AMTRAC rather than the rounds in the main gun.

To the Gay and Lesbian Community, thank you very much for the offer, but no thank you! Join under the rules of the game and no one will say anything, or go to Canada and join their Armed Forces. I understand that they don't particularly care who, or what, they have up there! We do!

Osotogary, do you really think that we are so foolish to not know that we have and have had Homosexuals in the Armed Forces of the United States? There have been many of them, but they put aside the recognition of their behavior to act in the best interest of the services. It is all part of the deal one makes to serve his country. The last thing that the services need is openly activist Homosexuals in their ranks! The differences are small, but they are the rules the same as fraternization and adultery. There is no special case here! The rules of the UCMJ are to be followed and obeyed by all servicemen and servicewomen.

'Don't ask, Don't tell' is the policy for good cause! And like Adulterers, homosexuality will not be tolerated!

Eddie F, The rules of Fraternization and Adultery still are in effect for off duty personnel, as well as the rules for the Homosexuals. The Military is not a Democracy, we just defend Democracy!

" Doesn't the Canadians speak french, so just like the Canadians and french foreign legion to merge" LOL

[GunnyL]

Sm@@thrider,

I wouldn't put the French Foreign Legion and the Canadians on the same level if I were you. I've done some raids in Somalia with the FFL and I've got a friend who was an FFL Sniper. The French Army might be full of pansies and light in the loafers types but the FFL is full of some very tough SOB's. Don't confuse the French Army and the French Foreign Legion. You think Faggots have a hard time in the Marine Corps? They would litterally take them out and shoot them in the FFL.
And yes to all you Pole Smoker Loving Liberals on this post I used the Non Politically Correct term Faggots. Just because I don't particularly care for Faggots and their way of life doesn't make me a Homophobe, it just means that I don't like Fags. There may be gays serving Honorably in the service today as long as they keep their sexuality hidden but as soon as it's revealed they are processed out. There is no room in the Military way of good order and discipline for Open Homosexuality. What they do after the military is their business.
Serving in this Corps is a Privilege, not a Right!

GunnyL

[yellowwing]

40,000 willing to sign, say 30,000 make it through Army training. That's enough for them to form their own Queer Brigade.

But seriously, the Canadian Forces General is geared up to send some serious shooters to go out and kill the Taliban, instead of garrison peacekeeping duties.

A few newspapers and an Independent elected official were mortified. But the General Hillier did not back down!

[hrscowboy]

awwwwwwwwww shlits yep somebody just opened a can of worms where is that female when she is needed...

[hrscowboy]

We dont need any rump roasters in any branch of the service!!! enuff said....

[Joseph P Carey]

Yellowwing : 40,000 willing to sign, say 30,000 make it through Army training. That's enough for them to form their own Queer Brigade.


I can see it now! Designer Leather Combat Uniforms, No bottoms to the leather trousers, the wearing of Motorcycle hats with EAG emblems, and Open toed spiked heeled boots. The EM Club would be renamed the S&M Club, and the post exchange would feature Gucchi bags!

We would go from being the 'Devil Dogs' to the 'Bedeviled Beeeches'!

[FREDDY]

I THINK YOU NEED TO EASY UP ON THE CPL ,SGT I FOR ONE AGREE WITH HIM AND GAYS JUST SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SERVICE PERIOD. FOR SOME REASON THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF "WALKING ON EGG SHELLS" ON THIS SUBJECT. I FOR ONE AM NOT GOING TO DEBATE, JUST SAY MY PEACE AND SHUT UP. EVER SINCE THE DONT ASK DONT TELL POLICY CAME WENT INTO EFFECT THERE HAVE BEEN MORE AND MORE PROBLEMS. THIS PC CRAP WAS NOT AROUND WHEN I WAS ON ACTIVE DUTY. THAT BEING SAID THAT IS MY VIEW AND I SAY AGAIN I WILL NOT GET INTO A DISCUSSION ON THE MATTER. RESPECTFULLY, FBIII

[yellowwing]

Army training

Brigade motto: "Do Everyone You Can Do"

[Nagalfar]

Quote; But seriously, the Canadian Forces General is geared up to send some serious shooters to go out and kill the Taliban, instead of garrison peacekeeping duties. unquote

Canada has a total military "force" of apx. 58k TOTAL personnel, now get this, there are MORE officers than enlisted.. I did a paper on Canada's military during, and post WW2 about 4 morths ago.. it was unthinkable what they dont have in numbers or equipment.. Canada's military is totally ineffective as a fighting force, in MHO, Canada is out gunned by MEXICO!.

GunnyL, have you ever wondered why France cant train Frenchmen to be as effective as their FFL troops? lol

[yellowwing]

...actually some units are outgunned by the Hells Angels. We have a huge budget surplus, but no air-worthy helicopters.

[USMCgrunt0331]

The military doesn't let females live with guys, or shower with guys, cause it ain't right. So why should staight guys have to sleep with and shower with fags? It'd be the same as if you had girls and guys doing all that stuff. Fags should stay out of the military. I wonder what the other countries are thinkin when they hear us talkin about how we need to let a bunch of homo's in our military to fight for us cause we're so bad off. Laughin their a$$ off I bet....Our Corps ain't that bad off.

[Joseph P Carey]

Originally posted by Nagalfar
Quote; But seriously, the Canadian Forces General is geared up to send some serious shooters to go out and kill the Taliban, instead of garrison peacekeeping duties. unquote

Canada has a total military "force" of apx. 58k TOTAL personnel, now get this, there are MORE officers than enlisted.. I did a paper on Canada's military during, and post WW2 about 4 morths ago.. it was unthinkable what they dont have in numbers or equipment.. Canada's military is totally ineffective as a fighting force, in MHO, Canada is out gunned by MEXICO!.

GunnyL, have you ever wondered why France cant train Frenchmen to be as effective as their FFL troops? lol

Why should they worry? They have Alaska on their left, Greenland on their right, the North Pole over their head to the North, and the USA to the South. Like Alfred E Newman (MAD Magazine) said, "What? Me worry?"

The truth is, Why should they arm? They know that they have the Americans to the South to save their bi-Butts. They may not help us in Iraq, and they openly condemn our policies and our life style, and they are only in Afghanistan because of NATO, but they stay huddled in the safety of their compund. Remember Hotel Rhuwanda, those UN Troops that bugged out and left those people to be killed were Canadian Troops. What a Proud tradition.

During WWII, Following a massive naval bombardment, 35,000 U.S. and Canadian troops stormed ashore at Kiska, in the Aleutian Islands. Twenty-one troops were killed in the firefight. It would have been worse if there had been any Japanese soldiers on the island.

To Paraphrase: "Yea though they walk through the world with the name North American, we shall fear no evil, because those evil, no good, money grubbing, war mongering bastards from South of the Border will always be there to pull our chestnuts out of the fire..."

It should be written into the Canadian National Anthem, "Oh Canada, we can not defend our selves. Our policy to have Gay Marriages and Socialist Programs do not allow for that. We will 'bad mouth' the people and the government of the USA, we will give refuge to their criminals and their draft evaders, we will shop in their stores and call them stupid everyone. After all, we are Canadians, and we will always be protected by the USA!"