What Units Define the Corps?

[HardJedi]

Originally posted by usmc4669
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"There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and those who have met them in battle. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion."

"I can't say enough about the two Marine divisions. If I use words like brilliant, it would really be an under-description of the absolutely superb job they did in breaching the so-called impenetrable barrier. . .Absolutely superb operation, a textbook, and I think it'll be studied for many, many years to come as the way to do it." (General H. Norman Schwarzkopf, USA, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 27 February 1991.)

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thanks for those quotes, just backs up what i said. We are KNOWN for our COMBAT Prowess. Nothing else. and YES all support is needed, EVERY Marine is important. But, how many times do I have to say this? I am in NO WAY saying one type of unit is more important than another. They are NOT. I am ASKING what units define the USMC to the world at large in the opinions of my fellow Marines?



Is this question to complicated, or are people just not understanding? I am NOT bieng sarcastic, or a smart ***. I just wanna know, is there anyone who does NOT understand what I am asking for?

[charlie222]

I really don't care what you are asking for at this point. Many Marines have posted their answer to your question and you still want someone to pounce on your question. charlie222 out.

[HardJedi]

pounce on my question? what does that mean?

[usmc4669]

HardJedi
If you are looking for any one unit that BEST defines the Marine Corps, I don't think that you will find just one unit. If you want to get down to facts then the Sea Going Marines of the Continental Marines would be the answer. Nov 10th 1775 till April 1783. The Marines really have two Birthdays Nov 10. 1775 and July 11, 1798, we honor the one on Nov 10, 1775.



On November 10, 1775, the Continental Congress meeting in Philadelphia passed a resolution stating that "two Battalions of Marines be raised" for service as landing forces with the fleet. This resolution, established the Continental Marines and marked the birth date of the United States Marine Corps. Serving on land and at sea, these first Marines distinguished themselves in a number of important operations, including their first amphibious raid into the Bahamas in March 1776, under the command of Captain (later Major) Samuel Nicholas. Nicholas, the first commissioned officer in the Continental Marines, remained the senior Marine officer throughout the American Revolution and is considered to be the first Marine Commandant. The Treaty of Paris in April 1783 brought an end to the Revolutionary War and as the last of the Navy's ships were sold, the Continental Navy and Marines went out of existence.

Following the Revolutionary War and the formal re-establishment of the Marine Corps on 11 July 1798, Marines saw action in the quasi-war with France, landed in Santo Domingo, and took part in many operations against the Barbary pirates along the "Shores of Tripoli". Marines participated in numerous naval operations during the War of 1812, as well as participating in the defense of Washington at Bladensburg, Maryland, and fought alongside Andrew Jackson in the defeat of the British at New Orleans. The decades following the War of 1812 saw the Marines protecting American interests around the world, in the Caribbean, at the Falkland Islands, Sumatra and off the coast of West Africa, and also close to home in the operations against the Seminole Indians in Florida.

During the Mexican War (1846-1848), Marines seized enemy seaports on both the Gulf and Pacific coasts. A battalion of Marines joined General Scott's army at Pueblo and fought all the way to the "Halls of Montezuma," Mexico City. Marines also served ashore and afloat in the Civil War (1861-1865). Although most service was with the Navy, a battalion fought at Bull Run and other units saw action with the blockading squadrons and at Cape Hatteras, New Orleans, Charleston, and Fort Fisher. The last third of the 19th century saw Marines making numerous landings throughout the world, especially in the Orient and in the Caribbean area.

Following the Spanish-American War (1898), in which Marines performed with valor in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines, the Corps entered an era of expansion and professional development. It saw active service in the Philippine Insurrection (1899-1902), the Boxer Rebellion in China (1900). and in numerous other nations, including Nicaragua, Panama, Cuba, Mexico, and Haiti.

In World War I the Marine Corps distinguished itself on the battlefields of France as the 4th Marine Brigade earned the title of "Devil Dogs" for heroic action during 1918 at Belleau Wood, Soissons, St. Michiel, Blanc Mont, and in the final Meuse-Argonne offensive. Marine aviation, which dates from 1912, also played a part in the war effort, as Marine pilots flew day bomber missions over France and Belgium. More than 30,000 Marines had served in France and more than a third were killed or wounded in six months of intense fighting.

During the two decades before World War II, the Marine Corps began to develop in earnest the doctrine, equipment, and organization needed for amphibious warfare. The success of this effort was proven first on Guadalcanal, then on Bougainville, Tarawa, New Britain, Kwajalein, Eniwetok, Saipan, Guam, Tinian, Peleliu, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. By the end of the war in 1945, the Marine Corps had grown to include six divisions, five air wings, and supporting troops. Its strength in World War II peaked at 485,113. The war cost the Marines nearly 87,000 dead and wounded and 82 Marines had earned the Medal of Honor.

While Marine units took part in the post-war occupation of Japan and North China, studies were undertaken at Quantico, Virginia, which concentrated on attaining a "vertical envelopment" capability for the Corps through the use of helicopters. Landing at Inchon, Korea in September 1950, Marines proved that the doctrine of amphibious assault was still viable and necessary. After the recapture of Seoul, the Marines advanced to the Chosin Reservoir only to see the Chinese Communists enter the war. After years of offensives, counter-offensives, seemingly endless trench warfare, and occupation duty, the last Marine ground troops were withdrawn in March 1955. More than 25,000 Marines were killed or wounded during the Korean War.

In July 1958, a brigade-size force landed in Lebanon to restore order. During the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962, a large amphibious force was marshaled but not landed. In April 1965, a brigade of Marines landed in the Dominican Republic to protect Americans and evacuate those who wished to leave.

The landing of the 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade at Da Nang in 1965 marked the beginning of large-scale Marine involvement in Vietnam. By summer 1968, after the enemy's Tet Offensive, Marine Corps strength in Vietnam rose to a peak of approximately 85,000. The Marine withdrawal began in 1969 as the South Vietnamese began to assume a larger role in the fighting; the last ground forces were out of Vietnam by June 1971. The Vietnam War, longest in the history of the Marine Corps, exacted a high cost as well with over 13,000 Marines killed and more than 88,000 wounded. In the spring of 1975, Marines evacuated embassy staffs, American citizens, and refugees in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, and Saigon, Republic of Vietnam. Later, in May 1975, Marines played an integral role in the rescue of the crew of the SS Mayaguez captured off the coast of Cambodia.

The mid-1970s saw the Marine Corps assume an increasingly significant role in defending NATO's northern flank as amphibious units of the 2d Marine Division participated in exercises throughout northern Europe. The Marine Corps also played a key role in the development of the Rapid Deployment Force, a multi-service organization created to insure a flexible, timely military response around the world when needed. The Maritime Prepositioning Ships (MPS) concept was developed to enhance this capability by prestaging equipment needed for combat in the vicinity of the designated area of operations, and reduce response time as Marines travel by air to link up with MPS assets.

The 1980s brought an increasing number of terrorist attacks on U.S. embassies around the world. Marine Security Guards, under the direction of the State Department, continued to serve with distinction in the face of this challenge. In August 1982, Marine units landed at Beirut, Lebanon, as part of the multi-national peace-keeping force. For the next 19 months these units faced the hazards of their mission with courage and professionalism. In October 1983, Marines took part in the highly successful, short-notice intervention in Grenada. As the decade of the 1980s came to a close, Marines were summoned to respond to instability in Central America. Operation Just Cause was launched in Panama in December 1989 to protect American lives and restore the democratic process in that nation.

Less than a year later, in August 1990, the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait set in motion events that would lead to the largest movement of Marine Corps forces since World War II. Between August 1990 and January 1991, some 24 infantry battalions, 40 squadrons, and more than 92,000 Marines deployed to the Persian Gulf as part of Operation Desert Shield. Operation Desert Storm was launched 16 January 1991, the day the air campaign began. The main attack came overland beginning 24 February when the 1st and 2d Marine Divisions breached the Iraqi defense lines and stormed into occupied Kuwait. By the morning of February 28, 100 hours after the ground war began, almost the entire Iraqi Army in the Kuwaiti theater of operations had been encircled with 4,000 tanks destroyed and 42 divisions destroyed or rendered ineffective.

Overshadowed by the events in the Persian Gulf during 1990-91, were a number of other significant Marine deployments demonstrating the Corps' flexible and rapid response. Included among these were non-combatant evacuation operations in Liberia and Somalia and humanitarian lifesaving operations in Bangladesh, the Philippines, and northern Iraq. In December 1992, Marines landed in Somalia marking the beginning of a two-year humanitarian relief operation in that famine-stricken and strife-torn nation. In another part of the world, Marine Corps aircraft supported Operation Deny Flight in the no-fly zone over Bosnia-Herzegovina. During April 1994, Marines once again demonstrated their ability to protect American citizens in remote parts of the world when a Marine task force evacuated U.S. citizens from Rwanda in response to civil unrest in that country. Closer to home, Marines went ashore in September 1994 in Haiti as part of the U.S. force participating in the restoration of democracy in that country. During this same period Marines were actively engaged in providing assistance to the Nation's counter-drug effort, assisting in battling wild fires in the western United States, and aiding in flood and hurricane relief operations.

[maverickmarine]

I started out as a a tanker 1812 and then moved to 0311 then to 0321. I agree that the whole of the Marine Corps is needed to be successful and we are all Marines. However, to answer your specific question I would have to say that people think of either the 03's hitting the beaches or of 8th and I.

[charlie222]

USMC4669, Now that's a answer , plus an history class, Semper Fi! Gunny. charlie222 out.

[HardJedi]

yep, that is DEFFINATLY an answer Gunny! Plus a VERY good history lesson for anyone who did NOT already know it. Thanks to all who have taken the time so far to post on here. I GREATLY appriciate it.

[charlie222]

It's my pleasure, HardJedi. Ooorah! charlie222 out.

[usmc4669]

jwalker1647, you are wrong. Without air cover you would never make it to the beach.

[charlie222]

USMC4669, that comes back to my first post on this question. Land, Air and Sea Team is what the Marine mix is about! charlie222 out.

[wayne553]

Namgrunt
I dont want to burst your bubble BUT most people see a SHARP Marine in Dress Blues FIRST.all the spit n polish then all of what
you said,the grunts
I agree with you,but then I'm not normal people I'm a Marine

wc


http://www.geocities.com/wayne_553/Dyer.html

[wayne553]

Namgrunt
I dont want to burst your bubble BUT most people see a SHARP Marine in Dress Blues FIRST.all the spit n polish then all of what
you said,the grunts
I agree with you,but then I'm not normal people I'm a Marine

wc


http://www.geocities.com/wayne_553/Dyer.html

[mrbsox]

I have a unique opportunity to post an answer for you HardJedi !!

As I live near Nashville, but work in Louisville KY, I have a 'house mate' type situation in Louisville. A few live here full time, and a few of us commute every week.

But, 1 of the guys is from Canada, on a work Visa (yes, his 'papers' are in order). So I asked him;

Go back, before you came to the states (about a year ago), and what is the first thing that comes to mind when I say

United States Marine

What I got was 'the white hat, the blue jacket, and that sword thing they carry' (moved hand in front of his face as in 'sword salute').

Does that help ??


Semper Fi

Terry

[reddog4950]

0300 Mos are the backbone of the Corps, but never forget the Marines are a team, without everyones help in the Corps the job wouldn't get done. Teamwork is what matters.
OK Chit I am also a 03 mos

[usmc4669]

I have keep the truth to myself and now it is time to tell all of you BOOTS the real story. What Units Define the Corps? There's only two and that is two Marines not a Unit MOS or Division, those two Marines was and will always be the units that defines the Corps. Now we can end this discussion once and for all. See their picture that I have posted for you.

Semper Fi

Gunny