Prominent gay rights groups

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Now we are one darling.

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When these homosexuals got married, who was the wife and who was the husband, or do they have a wife or husband?

[jfreas]

Grunt, I was just yankin your chain. I'm with you 110%.

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By DAVID KRAVETS

(AP) California Attorney General Bill Lockyer speaks to the press about his stance on same-sex marriages...
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - In yet another setback to conservatives opposed to same-sex marriage, the California Supreme Court declined a request to immediately stop San Francisco from marrying gay couples and to nullify the weddings already performed.

Attorney General Bill Lockyer asked the justices Friday to intervene in the debate while they consider the legality of the marriages. More than 3,400 couples have tied the knot since San Francisco began issuing marriage licenses two weeks ago under the directive of Mayor Gavin Newsom.

Lockyer told the justices it was a matter for the courts, not the mayor, to decide. He did not take a position on whether same-sex marriages should be deemed constitutional.

"The genius of our legal system is in the orderly way our laws can be changed, by the Legislature or by a vote of the people through the initiative process, to reflect current wisdom or societal values," he wrote.


The justices told the city and a conservative group that also asked the court to block gay marriages to file new legal briefs by March 5.

Regardless of the order, the San Francisco-based court did not indicate whether it would decide the issue. The seven justices usually are reluctant to decide cases until they work their way up through the lower courts, which this case has not.

Also Friday, New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer refused a request for an injunction against gay weddings performed in the village of New Paltz, N.Y., noting that such a measure should be a last resort. He did not issue an opinion on whether the marriages were legal.

Twenty-five gay couples exchanged wedding vows Friday on the steps of the New Paltz village hall.

"What we're witnessing in America today is the flowering of the largest civil rights movement the country's had in a generation," said New Paltz' Green Party mayor, Jason West.


More than 30 gay couples in Iowa City, Iowa, were denied marriage licenses Friday by an openly lesbian county official who said she must uphold the law.

Earlier this month, a county clerk in New Mexico issued 26 licenses before the state attorney general declared them invalid.

This month's gay marriage push is rooted in a November decision by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court, which ruled that prohibiting same-sex marriages violated that state's constitution. The court reaffirmed the decision this month, clearing the way for full-fledged gay marriages by mid-May.

The issue has sparked intense debate nationwide and spilled into the presidential race. President Bush, citing the Massachusetts decision and the parade of weddings in San Francisco, backed a federal constitutional amendment Tuesday to bar such marriages.

In statehouses nationwide, lawmakers are taking a closer look at their constitutions to see if they could be construed to permit same-sex marriages, even in states where laws now bar them. Massachusetts is one of many states where lawmakers are considering a constitutional amendment to bar the marriages.

The San Francisco mayor sued the state last week on grounds that California's marriage laws violate the state constitution's equal-protection clause. Pressure on Lockyer to act intensified when Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger directed him to "take immediate steps" to halt San Francisco's marriage march.

Supporters of the marriages have criticized Lockyer for rushing the issue to the state's highest court, while gay marriage opponents have criticized Lockyer for not acting sooner.

The California Supreme Court has a history of addressing marriage and gay rights cases. It was the first state high court in the nation to legalize interracial marriage 56 years ago. Twenty-five years ago, the court upheld gay rights by saying businesses could not arbitrarily discriminate against homosexuals.

Meanwhile, Republican activists who helped mount the recall of former Gov. Gray Davis last year have announced plans to seek the removal of Lockyer, who they say has "neglected his duty" to enforce state marriage laws.

In another development related to the weddings, the Social Security Administration has told its offices nationwide not to accept marriage certificates from San Francisco as proof of identification for newlyweds looking to make name changes on Social Security cards.

California Attorney General Bill Lockyer speaks at a news conference, Friday, Feb. 27, 2004, in Anaheim,Calif., about same sex marriages. Lockyer has been under fire from every side since San Francisco, under a directive from Mayor Gavin Newsom, began issuing marriage licenses to gays and lesbians and performing more than 3,400 weddings two weeks ago. (AP Photo/Jamie Rector)

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Gunny Jfreas:

Roger that. You'll find that I have a tendency to charge when my chain gets yanked. Its a common thing with us old junkyard dogs. No problem.
I also know I get my wind up, and keep yakkin' after I should shut up, so ..............I'll shut up now.

Well, ...I tried. Its time to impeach those California judges who allow mayors of cities to defy the laws already on the books. The new mayor of SF, whatsizname Newsom or Newcom, needs to spend 6 months behind bars for each illegal "marriage" performed when he chose to defy state and federal law. He would get out just in time to collapse in his grave (if he lives for 500 years).

Semper Fi!

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[QUOTE]For people who find themselves medically unable to have children, that doesn't mean it will never happen. Remember the story in the old Testament, where Abraham's wife Sarah, was barren. Yet, it is written, with supernatural intervention, she conceived through natural means, in her seventh decade of life, and bore Isaac.[QUOTE]

Are you saying that a gay man could bare a child with the help of the supernatural intervention?

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Now Gov. Arnold says he is not against gay marriage. He just thinks SF needs to conform to the law of the state. Agreed, they need to conform. But he ran on a conservative plank and now his real moderate side is out. No one should be fooled, California is the crash test dummy for all the minor groups to overthrow the majority. The constitutional amendment will certainly get hammered. (Praise GOD for a GOD fearing man in the White House.) Our judicial system has taken control of the country. It starts there. They are the ones allowing/causing this crap to persist. They are to interpret and rule whether it is lawful or unlawful based on the Constitution. Not make law. Liberal judges are appointed for life, so they have no check or balance. Where is the outcry against the 9th Circuit Court like there was against the Judge in Alabama over the 10 Commandments? There is none. Wanna know why? Because California has become the institution run by the patients. Not the other way around. My family lives in the Bay area, and it is so out of control it stinks. No wonder the state has seen monumental growth, yet all the Californians are leaving in numbers not matched since the 40's. Ther rest of the country feels "empowered" by Gavin Newsome's flagrant disregard for the law of the state. So if we do not stand now, GOD help us.

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Liberal judges are appointed for life, so they have no check or balance

I agree, then Conservative judges are also appointed for life. They are the ones (judges that is), who really runs this country, we the People cannot vote them out, then it was some of our voters who put them in. In the coming election we as citizens need to look at the issues real close; which one of the so called patriots will lead this country so that our forefathers Constitution will be upheld, not sell us out to the U.N., win the war in Iraq without giving it to the control of the U.N. to give to one group so that they can control without freedom for all Iraqis as it was when Saddam Hussein was in power. No matter who's voted in as President he will not please everyone, ]color=red]liberals or conservatives, that's the American way of life, we thank more as to what can we get for ourselves more than the needs of the country[/color]. Bush didn't go to Vietnam and brag to being a war hero, Kerry did, Bush didn't protest the war, Kerry did, Bush don't recognize Gay marries, Kerry will, Bush is against higher taxes, Kerry is for higher taxes, Bush is for Christian beliefs, Kerry ??.