GySgt to receive MOH for Hue City, 1968

[Deduke]

Having read extensively about awards for Valor in the past 24 hours.....I have found some very interesting facts. During the Viet Nam War, there was many Bn. Commanders, that issued orders that all officers under his Command, be awarded a medal of Valor. A citation was written, signed and passed up for approval. The SS and the BS, was termed an officers good conduct medal. In many cases, the officers and Senior Enlisted personal in the Rear Echelon, had 4 times more valor decorations than those troops actually engaged in Combat. There have been honest officers that have said, the events on their citation for the SS, never happened. In some combat units in Nam.....the Bn. Commander set a criteria, that so many decorations be issued each month, regardless of truth. They thought if they didn't have quite a few citations of valor, their unit would be looked upon as not engaging the enemy as they should. The citations would be in proportion with the enemy body count. In summary, there was many, many men overlooked for their valor, because the criteria for some decorations of valor was an everyday event for most Grunts in combat. Thus, you have to curtail it, to keep it meaningful. This is an INSULT to the Marine Grunts who served in Nam.

Douglas MacArthur (Dug-out Doug) received these medals:
MOH
DSM with 4 bronze oak leaves
DSC with 2 bronze oak leaves
DSM (Navy)
Silver Star with silver oak leaf
DFC (flying)
Bronze Star with v
Purple Heart with bronze oak leaf

[Mongoose]

MacArthur, took a flight over a small part of North Korea. In other words, enemy territory. He gave himself a DFC for this action, but, the pilot, co-pilot, navigator and other flight personal, received nothing.

[Deduke]

Our hero, LBJ, served a total of 5 weeks in the military, rising to the rank of Navy Lt. Cmdr. On his only flight in the combat area of the Pacific, the plane he was supposed to be on, but wasn't, was shot down. Dug-out Doug awarded him a Silver Star for gallantry. One week after returning to the world, he was a civilian back in the House of Representatives.

[Mongoose]

Well....it goes back to what I read this morning.....a medal for Valor, was an Officers Good Conduct Medal.

[oldtop]

unfortunately for us, the ARMY during Vietnam cheapened the Bronze Star Medal to the equal of a bag of popcorn.... Army officers were given the BSM as an END OF TOUR award (instead of something like a Army Achievement Medal) .... even enlisted clerks that were the ones that had to do the write ups managed to write themselves up for a BSM as an end of tour award... one reason why today the VA requires a BSM with V to accept the award as combat related.... some people have always "played the system", but Vietnam was just about the "height" of the "get your ticket punched and be promoted up" system for officers....

[Zulu 36]

unfortunately for us, the ARMY during Vietnam cheapened the Bronze Star Medal to the equal of a bag of popcorn.... Army officers were given the BSM as an END OF TOUR award (instead of something like a Army Achievement Medal) .... even enlisted clerks that were the ones that had to do the write ups managed to write themselves up for a BSM as an end of tour award... one reason why today the VA requires a BSM with V to accept the award as combat related.... some people have always "played the system", but Vietnam was just about the "height" of the "get your ticket punched and be promoted up" system for officers....

The Army still cheapens the Bronze Star. You get one automatically if you are KIA along with the Purple Heart.

[USMC 2571]

ARMY...ain't ready to be a Marine yet

[Mongoose]

Now Dave....some of our greatest Military personal was Army......included here is a picture of Army greatness......during this soldiers 19 tours to Iraq and Afgan, he was nick-named the extinguisher.12814729_972856496139791_3283547121890625321_n.jpg