Scumbag pretends to be a Marine veteran

[ARTYPIG]

At Elliscraig: People fail to realize that when an aircraft goes up that it's mission is limited to the ordnance onboard, which may not be the correct type for the type of mission at hand. They are also hindered by some weather conditions even with all the high speed technology.

Artillery has every king of ordnance you could imagine on the deck and are 99% of the time with in range of grunts trying to kill the enemy. You may not always need a 500lb bomb. When an artillery batter gets a fire mission it is less than a minute before rounds are down range and usually a hell of a lot faster. One minute compared to maybe 5 minutes or an hour for an aircraft to get there is a hell of a lot better when the enemy is trying to stomp a mud hole in your ass and walk it dry.

Artillery is called the King Of Battle for a reason and it is more precise than one thinks.

Semper Fi!

Artypig

[Marine1955]

Here's the video for you too watch without going to you tube.

[Veteran1991]

The video itself does not contain the imposter. The imposter is in the comments section of the video.

[elliscraig12]

[quote=ARTYPIG;786642]At Elliscraig: People fail to realize that when an aircraft goes up that it's mission is limited to the ordnance onboard, which may not be the correct type for the type of mission at hand. They are also hindered by some weather conditions even with all the high speed technology.

Artillery has every king of ordnance you could imagine on the deck and are 99% of the time with in range of grunts trying to kill the enemy. You may not always need a 500lb bomb. When an artillery batter gets a fire mission it is less than a minute before rounds are down range and usually a hell of a lot faster. One minute compared to maybe 5 minutes or an hour for an aircraft to get there is a hell of a lot better when the enemy is trying to stomp a mud hole in your ass and walk it dry.

Artillery is called the King Of Battle for a reason and it is more precise than one thinks.

Semper Fi!

Artypig[/quote Did not know that, I stand corrected, thanks for the info.

[jerryk]

i was in a 105 battary in vietnam an even today i have marine grunts thank me for us saveing their 6 sometimes all night by fireing for themlaying down steel all around them

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Ok, now that someone has cleared that one up...

Kokesh is, in fact, a former Marine. He's a code pinkster dirtball, but NOT a poser.

As far as the airstrike vs arty...it really depends on what you have 'on call' and what you don't. If you've got your CAS waiting on your call, then it's likely quicker. If the battery (s) are within range (or your company mortars are, *even better*) then the tubes are faster.

This becomes an 'apples/oranges' point. Planes can't stay on 'hover' forever, they run out of fuel, for one thing. Arty can stay 'prepped' with pre-arranged coordinates.

[chulaivet1966]

If the battery (s) are within range (or your company mortars are, *even better*) then the tubes are faster.

Why does this make good sense to me?...hmmmm.

In all my subjectivity, I like the way you phrased that.

Carry on...

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Thank you, sir!

[Veteran1991]

Kokesh is, in fact, a former Marine. He's a code pinkster dirtball, but NOT a poser.

Kokesh is not the person pretending to a Marine veteran in the chat. The person in the chat is a poser. The person in the chat is "claiming" to have lost his leg by an IED.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Oh. Again...I can't see it.

[hussaf]

We use traditional arty, XCAL, HIMARs, and whatever's on station for airflow. Plus birds RTB can deviate and provide support if time, fuel, munitions allow. I don't know if there is towed arty these days, everything that supports the unit I was attached to was stationary...plus we had a lot of airflow. MAW can sometimes be skiddish, and after a month or so of dropping GBUs left and right on one or two guys, Division gets a little concerned with the cost-benefit ratio and tells you to use arty if you can't get good battle damage assessments on your CAS drops.

[R Landry]

Sourced

• Our artillery... The Germans feared it almost more than anything we had.
  • Ernie Pyle, Brave Men (1944)

• Ultima Ratio Regum
  • Translation: the final argument of kings.
  • Motto engraved on French cannons at the direction of Louis XIV. Later, "ultima ratio regis" was similarly used by Frederick the Great.

• "Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl."
  • Frederick II of Prussia

• Soldiers, brave guys, and who are your wives?
  Our wives are our loaded cannons, that's what our wives.
  • Traditional Russian soldiers song^[1]

• If you have two hundred guns per kilometer of the front, do not ask about the enemy.
  • Marshal Kirill Moskalenko^[2]

Unsourced

• God fights on the side with the best artillery.
  • Napoleon Bonaparte.

• I do not have to tell you who won the war. You know, the artillery did.
  • Gen George S. Patton

• The artillery conquers, the infantry occupies.
  • French doctrine after the First World War

• Artillery is the god of war.
  • Joseph Stalin

• Contrary to popular belief, we at artillery command do not believe we're God. We merely borrowed His "Smite" button.
  • Anonymous

• The Mission of the Artillery is to give some class to what would otherwise be merely a vulgar brawl.
  • Some Redleg (American Artilleryman, since their dress blue uniforms have red stripes). This quotation has also been attributed to Frederick the Great.

• Without support the infantry won't move.
  • The motto of the Israeli Artillery Corps.
  • In Hebrew, it rhymes

• Infantry err, infantry die. Artillery err, infantry die.
  • IDF black humor slogan

• The bombs land with awesome explosions, the earth trembles, the upcast of craters jets in the air, the troops are shocked by the blast waves, many bleed from noses or perforated ear drums, they are terrorized into apathy or outright panic. But unless the enemy is nearby and ready to advance immediately, the moment passes.
  • Edward Luttwak

• Since infantry is considered the 'Queen of Battle', and artillery the king, I had inscribed my personal banner "Balls for the Queen". Granted, high explosive 150 millimeter shells aren't exactly cannonballs, but hey, why spoil a perfectly good motto?
  • Tommy Franks, while an artillery lieutenant in Vietnam.

• An artillery barrage is a terrifying thing.
  • Erich Maria Remarque

• If two sides start out at equal strength, and are relatively equally damaged, but one side can replenish his artillery, and the other side cannot, then that one side that gets his artillery back has all but won.
  • Anonymous

• The guns! Thank God the guns!
  • Rudyard Kipling

• Ubique! Quo Fas et Gloria Du****
  • Translation: Everywhere. Whither Right and Glory Lead
  • Motto of the Royal Artillery

• The weaker the infantry, the more artillery it needs. American infantry needs all the artillery it can get.
  • A French officer, to General George Patton (during the American liberation of France)

• The artillery drops short to keep the infantry moving forwards.
  • Artillery comeback to the nickname dropshort.

• The infantry exists to get the forward observers to the next hill.
  • Anonymous

• Artillery knows neither friend nor foe - only good targets.
  • Anonymous (slogan in the German Bundeswehr)

[Bornagain]

He's a twiddledivck for sure. Expounding on stuff he knows 'zero' about and pretending to be an 'expert', while the anti-war left falls all over him because they don't know the right questions to ask, either (to see if he's real).

It's obvious from that remark that he has about as much knowledge on 'artillery' as he does on fornication. He's read about it in books, finds it distasteful, and wants to deprive those who've used it of it's fine function because it's 'icky' and causes bodily fluids to be splashed about when done correctly.

"Precise" airstrikes are, like everything else, subject to whims and weather. Obviously he's never had to 'lase' a target for real, unless you count his X-box games he plays with cheeto stained fingers.

Nice one on the cheeto stained fingers Sgt. Lep.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Sometimes I get lucky.

[Otter5]

Air hit a single builing in Nam, not likely , BUT Napalm works wonders