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    Do we really need Illegal Aliens?

    Tina Griego, journalist for the Denver Rocky Mountain News wrote a
    column
    titled, "Mexican visitor's lament" -- 10/25/07.
    She interviewed Mexican journalist Evangelina Hernandez while visiting
    Denver last week. Hernandez said,
    "They (illegal aliens) pay rent, buy groceries, buy clothes...what
    happens
    to your country's economy if 20 million people go away?"

    That's a good question - it deserves an answer. Over 80 percent of
    Americans
    demand secured borders and illegal migration stopped. But what would
    happen
    if all 20 million or more vacated America? The answers may surprise you!

    In California, if 3.5 million illegal aliens moved back to Mexico, it
    would
    leave an extra $10.2 billion to spend on overloaded school systems,
    bankrupted hospitals and overrun prisons. It would leave highways
    cleaner,
    safer and less congested. Everyone could understand one another as
    English
    became the dominate language again.

    In Colorado, 500,000 illegal migrants, plus their 300,000 kids and
    grand-kids - would move back "home," mostly to Mexico. That would save
    Coloradans an estimated $2 billion (other experts say $7 BIL) annually
    in
    taxes that pay for schooling, medical, social-services and incarceration
    costs. It means 12,000 gang members would vanish out of Denver alone.
    Colorado would save more than $20 million in prison costs, and the
    terror
    that those 7,300 alien criminals set upon local citizens. Denver Officer
    Don
    Young and hundreds of Colorado victims would not have suffered death,
    accidents, rapes and other crimes by illegals.
    Denver Public Schools would not suffer a 67 percent drop out/flunk out
    rate
    via thousands of illegal alien students speaking 41 different languages.
    At
    least 200,000 vehicles would vanish from our gridlocked cities in
    Colorado.
    Denver's four percent unemployment rate would vanish as our working poor
    would gain jobs at a living wage.

    In Florida, 1.5 million illegals would return the Sunshine State back to
    America, the rule of law and English.

    In Chicago, Illinois, 2.1 million illegals would free up hospitals,
    schools,
    prisons and highways for a safer, cleaner and more crime-free
    experience.

    If 20 million illegal aliens returned "home" --

    If 20 million illegal aliens returned "home," the U.S. economy would
    return
    to the rule of law. Employers would hire legal American citizens at a
    living wage. Everyone would pay their fair share of taxes because they
    wouldn't be working off the books. That would result in an additional
    $401
    billion in IRS income taxes collected annually, and an equal amount for
    local state and city coffers.

    No more push '1' for Spanish or '2' for English. No more confusion in
    American schools that now must content with over 100 languages that
    degrade
    the educational system for American kids. Our overcrowded schools would
    lose more than two million illegal alien kids at a cost of billions in
    ESL
    and free breakfasts and lunches.

    We would lose 500,000 illegal criminal alien inmates at a cost of more
    than
    $1.6 billion annually. That includes 15,000 MS-13 gang members who
    distribute $130 billion in drugs annually would vacate our country. In
    cities like L.A., 20,000 members of the "18th Street Gang" would vanish
    from
    our nation. No more Mexican forgery gangs for ID theft from Americans!
    No
    more foreign rapists and child molesters!

    Losing more than 20 million people would clear up our crowded highways
    and
    gridlock. Cleaner air and less drinking and driving American deaths by
    illegal aliens!

    Drain on America's economy; taxpayers harmed, employers get rich

    Over $80 billion annually wouldn't return to their home countries by
    cash
    transfers. Illegal migrants earned half that money untaxed, which
    further
    drains America's economy - which currently suffers an $8.7 trillion
    debt.

    At least 400,000 anchor babies would not be born in our country, costing
    us
    $109 billion per year per cycle. At least 86 hospitals in California,
    Georgia and Florida would still be operating instead of being bankrupted
    out
    of existence because illegals pay nothing via the EMTOLA Act. Americans
    wouldn't suffer thousands of TB and hepatitis cases rampant in our
    country-brought in by illegals unscreened at our borders.

    Our cities would see 20 million less people driving, polluting and grid
    locking our cities. It would also put the "progressives" on the horns of
    a
    dilemma; illegal aliens and their families cause 11 percent of our
    greenhouse gases.

    Over one million of Mexico's poorest citizens now live inside and along
    our
    border from Brownsville, Texas to San Diego, California in what the New
    York
    Times called, "colonias" or new neighborhoods. Trouble is, those living
    areas resemble Bombay and Calcutta where grinding poverty, filth,
    diseases,
    drugs, crimes, no sanitation and worse. They live without sewage, clean
    water, streets, electricity, roads or any kind of sanitation. The New
    York
    Times reported them to be America's new "Third World" inside our own
    country. Within 20 years, at their current growth rate, they expect 20
    million residents of those colonias. (I've seen them personally in Texas
    and
    Arizona; it's sickening beyond anything you can imagine.) By enforcing
    our
    laws, we could repatriate them back to Mexico.

    High integrity, ethical invitation

    We invite 20 million aliens to go home, fix their own countries and/or
    make
    a better life in Mexico. We invite a million people into our country
    legally
    more than all other countries combined annually. We cannot and must not
    allow anarchy at our borders, more anarchy within our borders and
    growing
    lawlessness at every level in our nation.

    It's time to stand up for our country, our culture, our civilization and
    our
    way of life.


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    Angry

    No we don't need them!!!! Send them back!!!! If they want to be here, then let them come through the legal way!!!!!


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    I agree we dont need them. I also dont agree with we can't round them up, "I can't" never did anything!


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    I also concur. its almost feels like our Civilian Leaders dont want the embarrasment of actually following the laws of the Republic.


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    yellowwing
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    It started hundreds of years ago!

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    Economics is not a zero-sum game as some of our politicians insist it is (many of whom actually know better). No one has to "lose" in order for others to "gain."

    Removing the illegal aliens would do several things beside all of those benefits listed in the article. First, it would indeed free up a large amount of rather mudane and labor intensive, "stoop-labor," type jobs.

    A perfect fit for all of the welfare rats that can now be removed from the public dole and have simple, entry-level jobs available that they can perform with their dismal education (as proven by equally ill-educated illegal aliens), yet have the opportunities as legal citizens to improve their p*ss-poor education so as to advance to better jobs in the future.

    Refusal to work is not an excuse to return to the dole. True physical inability to work may be, but must be evaluated strictly and firmly. Some kind of work can be found for those overweight, diabetic "poor people" who still somehow managed to get morbidly obese. Not too many poor fat people in the truly poor Third World.

    Further, one very quick way to slow illegal immigration is to remove "birthright citizenship." This is a major draw for illegals. Once baby is born here, mommy and daddy can stay. It is not a Constitutionally mandated right, but instead a statuatory right. Congress giveth and Congress can taketh away.

    Yeah, right.


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    Thumbs up alians

    if they want to live in the U. S. then live here legal


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    I'd be back to flippin my own burgers, and cuttin my own grass,,,,,, Wait,,, I do that now.
    Changen my oil, washing my car, building my own room addition,,,,, Yep, Don't Need Em.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowwing
    It started hundreds of years ago!
    They didn't have a country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulu 36
    Further, one very quick way to slow illegal immigration is to remove "birthright citizenship." This is a major draw for illegals. Once baby is born here, mommy and daddy can stay. It is not a Constitutionally mandated right, but instead a statuatory right. Congress giveth and Congress can taketh away.

    Yeah, right.
    You might want to read Article of Amendment 14, Section 1. Which says, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." It will actually take a constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship.



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    Send them packing and wait your time to come here legally.


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    yellowwing
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3077India
    You might want to read Article of Amendment 14, Section 1. Which says, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." It will actually take a constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship.
    That's a sticky wicket. Plus add in the difference between a Cuban and boatloads of Chinese. Anomalies like Elian Gonzales pop-up and throw the laws out of whack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowwing
    That's a sticky wicket. Plus add in the difference between a Cuban and boatloads of Chinese. Anomalies like Elian Gonzales pop-up and throw the laws out of whack.
    Not trying to discuss how it might have been abused, misused or ignored in the past. Only pointed out that it would take more than a Federal Statute to end birthright citizenship.


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    I question the statistics listed.

    For example, the article indicates that there are 500,000 illegal immigrants in prisons/jails. As of 6/30/2006 the total US prison/jail population of the country was approx (per dept of justice figures) 2,250,000. The number quoted in the article suggests that approx. 22% of the prison population is illegal immigrants. I find this (22%) figure laughable.

    When it is so easy to disprove one statistic I loose all faith in the rest of the statistics.

    The argument against illegal aliens is still valid, the above article does not make the point when it uses baloney stats.


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    well most everyone came down the line from immagrants,,,, my only complaint is if they want to live and work here then come thru the legal channels ,,, like ghostriderjpd writes scout sniper training or better yet qualification training


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