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  1. #61
    Corporal, I thank you a lot for your very informative posts and answers to my questions. As I come with more, I will be sure to ask.. like now.

    Okinawa is a possible place to go I saw. First, would family (wife and child) be allowed to accompany me there? Second, how long is the stay there? (I've read somewhere 13 months was the number)

    As far as the DLAB goes, is everyone who wants to go 02xx is required to take it? If so, what happens if you do poor on it? (do they not offer you 0231, or is it not required to become an 0231, however more of a who can do what test?)


  2. #62
    Also, what are the requirements for becoming an 0231? I read on the usmilitary.about.com that you need a GT of 100, and a TS Security Clearance (also knowing you need to complete schooling at Damneck) but is there anything else that they don't list?


  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by dizark View Post
    Corporal, I thank you a lot for your very informative posts and answers to my questions. As I come with more, I will be sure to ask.. like now.

    Okinawa is a possible place to go I saw. First, would family (wife and child) be allowed to accompany me there? Second, how long is the stay there? (I've read somewhere 13 months was the number)

    As far as the DLAB goes, is everyone who wants to go 02xx is required to take it? If so, what happens if you do poor on it? (do they not offer you 0231, or is it not required to become an 0231, however more of a who can do what test?)
    Dizark,

    All those are good questions and I'll go ahead and answer both of your posts in this one.

    If you do end up going to Okinawa for your first duty station, you will be required to have 36 months time on station (TOS) meaning you will have to stay there for at least 3 years before you can request a change of duty station. Because of this, you will be allowed to take your wife and child with you when you execute orders there. I have never been to Okinawa myself so I can't tell you much about any of the bases there but perhaps someone else can if that's somewhere you're interested in going. The 13 months you're referring to is for a PCS (Permanent Change of Station) meaning that you had completed your first 3 years somewhere else and then changed your unit to somewhere in Okinawa. I actually believe it's two years now and there are a lot of extenuating circumstances that play in to how long you would be there if this were the case and isn't something you should worry about until after you spend some time in the fleet. You will have plenty of fellow Marines and leadership to speak to if that's something you want to do down the road.

    Don't get to bent out of shape regarding the DLAB. It's just another test they'll give you to see if you have the basic ability to learn another language. If you don't do well on it, there aren't any adverse effects regarding your status as a Marine or an 0231. Since it's given in Intel School, they're not going to kick you out if you don't qualify, you'll just fall into the category of those that aren't going to be going to DLI. Passing it is not a pre-requisite to being an 0231.

    As far as requirements go for being an 0231, what you've seen is what you get. You need a GT of 100+, you need to be eligible for a TS clearance (meaning no major criminal or drug history, good to go financially, no foreign contacts that are not immediate family or can not be explained). Basically anything that may cause you to compromise the safe keeping of classified information is going to raise a red flag and probably keep you from obtaining your clearance. As long as none of that applies, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

    Let me know if any of this was unclear or if there are follow on quesitons.


  4. #64
    I don't know if you'll be able to answer this, but on the ************* forums, a mother said her son, who is going through training (I think MOTOR T) said that theyre only allowing Singles to go to Okinawa at this time and married couples would go east/west coast. Is this true?

    Also, if one were to go to Okinawa, what happens with all your household goods (furniture, etc) and personal vehicle(s)?

    Thanks again for your assistance.


  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by dizark View Post
    I don't know if you'll be able to answer this, but on the ************* forums, a mother said her son, who is going through training (I think MOTOR T) said that theyre only allowing Singles to go to Okinawa at this time and married couples would go east/west coast. Is this true?

    Also, if one were to go to Okinawa, what happens with all your household goods (furniture, etc) and personal vehicle(s)?

    Thanks again for your assistance.
    Wow, I haven't heard that. I've been out of the Marine Corps for almost a year now so maybe something has changed. I really can't see them sending only single Marines to Oki though. I'll have to look into that.

    Anyway, in the event you go there unaccompanied and you're married, you would rate seperations pay, BAH (housing allowance) and COLA (Cost of Living) which means your wife back here in the states could either put your things in storage and pocket the differenc by living at home or get a house which would be paid for by the Marine Corps. These are all things that would be good to ask your recruiter though and you'll definitely know what's going on by the time you get to MOS School.


  6. #66
    Corporal, did you qualify with a pistol in Intel? I noticed that you didn't have the badge on your signature but I have heard different things about whether Intel quals or not. I know it's not all that important (I either will or I won't) so mostly this is just curiousity.


  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by mdlangley View Post
    Corporal, did you qualify with a pistol in Intel? I noticed that you didn't have the badge on your signature but I have heard different things about whether Intel quals or not. I know it's not all that important (I either will or I won't) so mostly this is just curiousity.
    I never did qual with a pistol although I was issued one when I deployed with the CI guys. The standard issue weapon for 0231's (Sgt and below) is your standard M16A2 Service Rifle. The Marine Corps is attempting to get M-4's into as many hands as possible but combat MOS's come first. Every unit is different so I don't want to mislead you and say you're never going to get a chance to qual with a pistol but it just depends on how many spots they have available for each range and SNCO's and Officers get priority because they're issued those weapons. Now, if there isn't anything going on in your shop and your unit can spare you for a week or two, you very well might get to qual.

    Part of the issue to is that the deployment rate is so high currently that the time between deployments is short compared to all the necessary training agendas that need to be met for 0231's. It's just a matter of the units prioritizing what needs to be done most and since you don't rate a pistol while deployed, other training comes first.


  8. #68
    Would an unaccompanied tour still be 3 years?

    My wife is interested in the idea of going to Okinawa, and that three years doesn't bother her as it's an experience for my family. However, the more I read in depth, for married couples, it's so involved. From things such as getting an onbase home, to an offbase home being $3000 and needing a deposit and such.


  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by dizark View Post
    Would an unaccompanied tour still be 3 years?

    My wife is interested in the idea of going to Okinawa, and that three years doesn't bother her as it's an experience for my family. However, the more I read in depth, for married couples, it's so involved. From things such as getting an onbase home, to an offbase home being $3000 and needing a deposit and such.
    I believe that the unaccompanied ranges from 1-2 years. The Marine Corps changed it within the last 18 months but I can't tell you for certain. Your recruiter would be a good person to ask this to or possible post another thread asking the specifics of an accompanied vs. unaccompanied tour there.

    And yes, paper work is something you'll become very familiar with in the Marine Corps. Another word of advise is to always keep copies OF EVERYTHING! One of the worst things is to have someone say they didn't give you something when they actually did and you have no proof of it. You'll learn as you go though and there are always resources and people to talk to once you get out of bootcamp.


  10. #70
    0231 marine, regarding the requirements necessary to enter the Intel field, i was wondering if you could clarify something for me..
    i have a clean criminal background, no drug use or anything like that, i have family that was in the service. But, recently some money issues have come up, and without going into to much details collection agencies had to get involved. it wasn't my credit card ( i dont have one ) but i missed some payments on my insurance. will this disqualify me ?
    thank you so much for all of your helpful information


  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by ebrown707 View Post
    0231 marine, regarding the requirements necessary to enter the Intel field, i was wondering if you could clarify something for me..
    i have a clean criminal background, no drug use or anything like that, i have family that was in the service. But, recently some money issues have come up, and without going into to much details collection agencies had to get involved. it wasn't my credit card ( i dont have one ) but i missed some payments on my insurance. will this disqualify me ?
    thank you so much for all of your helpful information

    Not filling out your profile and reading the rules will disqualify you from an answer.

    Hope this helps.


  12. #72
    is that any better? thank you


  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by ebrown707 View Post
    0231 marine, regarding the requirements necessary to enter the Intel field, i was wondering if you could clarify something for me..
    i have a clean criminal background, no drug use or anything like that, i have family that was in the service. But, recently some money issues have come up, and without going into to much details collection agencies had to get involved. it wasn't my credit card ( i dont have one ) but i missed some payments on my insurance. will this disqualify me ?
    thank you so much for all of your helpful information
    I can't tell you for certain that this would disqualify you or not. The best thing to do would be straight forward with your explination of the circumstances surrounding this incident when you're filling out your paperwork. It's up to the investigator to recommend whether you should recieve a clearance or not so when he/she talks to you, be forthcoming about everything and leave it up to them. There's not much you can do to change the past and they understand that. As long as you're making an effort to rectify the situation, they'll tend to be a little more lenient.


  14. #74
    Ok so i am a poolee and as all poolees do i have questions. really my only question is is there a difference in the intel MOS Delta Delta then 0231 because i assuming i make it through basic and MCT am being sent to be trained for Delta Delta and was wondering if anyone on here could give me even a breif idea as to what it is and what to expect.

    Thank you all,
    Semper fi


  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Balmera View Post
    Ok so i am a poolee and as all poolees do i have questions. really my only question is is there a difference in the intel MOS Delta Delta then 0231 because i assuming i make it through basic and MCT am being sent to be trained for Delta Delta and was wondering if anyone on here could give me even a breif idea as to what it is and what to expect.

    Thank you all,
    Semper fi
    DD is just the code for Intel. It doesn't mean anything special aside from that's what your contract is indicating. If it says DD, expect to be going to Virginia Beach for Intel training following MCT. You won't actually recieve the MOS 0231 until you graduate so the code DD takes that place until you hit the fleet.


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