MPs

[lancejr14]

I heard that civilian police will be take over for Military police here in the US in 2011.Is this true?

[Rocky C]

I heard that civilian police will be take over for Military police here in the US in 2011.Is this true?

NO!!!!!!!!

[lancejr14]

thanks I heard it from a friend, It didn't sound true but I wanted to be sure

[polizei]

Uh, Rocky not sure where you're getting your info from, but that is indeed true. They won't be all gone by 2011, more like 2015. That's the guess, at least from what I heard from the underground.

And if it's not true, then everyone I've talked to, including various high ranks have been lying to me and other MP's...civilians already work on many bases, and they will be taking PMO out, NOT field.

[msboy249]

The civilians will not fully take over the MP field, there will still be Marines at PMO. Every base will split them up differently, but it's going to be around a 70/30 split, meaning 70% civilians and 30% Marines making up PMO. I spent my first 5 years as a MP, so I've heard all the rumors about how the civilians are coming in and taking our MOS completly away from us.

[Wheels123]

I think Rocky's no was an extended in length type no that drags on for many seconds slowly fading away. At least thats how I read it originally.

They have already started the process of bringing in civilians to work at PMO here. They can be quite the arseholes sometimes. Rumor I heard was the reason this is happening is so that more MP's will be able to get deployed to provide base security so units do not have to be augmented out to do it.

[polizei]

That's what I've been hearing as well.

[lancejr14]

Pmo ?

[Wheels123]

Provost Marshall's Office

[lancejr14]

the Marines

[Wheels123]

What are you trying to ask??

[Zulu 36]

The Air Force and the Army have been using Department of Defense Police (civil service employees) for years at many facilities. Note that it was two DoD cops who shot that goofy Muslim shrink at Ft Hood.

I worked for almost five years as a DoD cop for the Air Force after I got out of the Corps in 1977. I was also a Marine Reservist and later an Air National Guardsman at the same base. Civilian police jobs were scarce then (thanks to Jimmie Carter and his idea of an economy).

Most bases that I am aware of still maintain a military police presence in addition to the DoD police. Air Force facilities still have Security Forces guarding Priority A resources (nukes, etc) and many flightline security duties as well. DoD cops do the routine police work.

The Navy has started using DoD cops more and more and it was just a matter of time before the Marine Corps did too.

Yes, it is an issue of allocating resources for deployment versus stateside policing. It generally takes fewer DoD cops to staff a single 24/7/365 position (generally five people) than military police (generally seven people). This is due lower turnover in the civilian police ranks and lower repeated training requirements.

[lancejr14]

I was trying to ask if is was true or not, then I asked what PMO was.

[polizei]

Yes it's true...but like said earlier, not all PMO MP's will be gone. There will be some, just not as many.

[lancejr14]

thanks Marines