Presidential Security MOS

[Mttscreename]

I recently enlisted on June 1st, open contract until I talked with my recruiter about what specific job I wanted. I wanted to be 02 but now I am hearing about the Presidential Security MOS. I requested that first and 02 second. My question is does anyone know anything about this MOS? It is a five year deal, I do not think it is two years of security detail and then you go 03xx. I can't find any information anywhere on the internet, and it isn't in any MOS list. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

[rvillac2]

That's because it is not an MOS. Look up Security Forces. It is 2 yrs and then you go back to an 0311 unit.

[joecoul89]

Presidential security is HMX, they guard the helicopter(Marine 1) and are everywhere the president is, sorta like secret service is. I know they take a lot of MP's but not sure about the other mos's. It is very selective though, and requires the highest level security clearance. I'm an MP so I have been through this screening process and know a few that have passed. You can PM me if you want.

[Mttscreename]

That's because it is not an MOS. Look up Security Forces. It is 2 yrs and then you go back to an 0311 unit.

I do know what your talking about Sgt, your talking about a security detail that you are selected for while in boot camp or SOI I believe. My recruiter is telling me that it is a five year contract. He hasn't mentioned anything about going infantry, but i will be sure to ask. To the best of my knowledge this is a different job.

[srinaldo86]

Ever smoked weed? More than 5 times?
Bad Credit?
Any criminal record what so ever?
Will people who have known you for years speak highly of you even if you haven't talked to them in years?

They will dig into your past like you wouldn't believe.
I'm not sure what MOS or security detail you're referring to but for HMX-1 those are some of the questions they ask.
It would most definitely be an AWESOME AWESOME job for a kid your age to get to travel, and receive such a high security clearance but you definitely have to walk a tight rope.

[Mttscreename]

Ever smoked weed? More than 5 times?
Bad Credit?
Any criminal record what so ever?
Will people who have known you for years speak highly of you even if you haven't talked to them in years?

They will dig into your past like you wouldn't believe.
I'm not sure what MOS or security detail you're referring to but for HMX-1 those are some of the questions they ask.
It would most definitely be an AWESOME AWESOME job for a kid your age to get to travel, and receive such a high security clearance but you definitely have to walk a tight rope.

I have never smoked weed, haven't bought anything to screw up my credit with, no criminal record at all, and all of my references i put down on my background check will speak highly of me.

[rvillac2]

I do know what your talking about Sgt, your talking about a security detail that you are selected for while in boot camp or SOI I believe. My recruiter is telling me that it is a five year contract. He hasn't mentioned anything about going infantry, but i will be sure to ask. To the best of my knowledge this is a different job.

Look up security forces, kid. They go through infantry training first before going on to SF school.

[Quinbo]

The Marines at camp david are 8151's. Look that up. Most but not all are channeled through the 03 pipeline. Not a permanate position and you will finish your contract in the fleet. HMX-1 is a whole different animal and you have already recieved advice on what MOS's to investigate as far as that route goes. 90% of the time the Marines in that channel never see the president.

[Fubar5812]

Presidential security is HMX, they guard the helicopter(Marine 1) and are everywhere the president is, sorta like secret service is. I know they take a lot of MP's but not sure about the other mos's. It is very selective though, and requires the highest level security clearance. I'm an MP so I have been through this screening process and know a few that have passed. You can PM me if you want.

HMX is not presidental security. HMX-1 Marines (chosen from MP school) are physical security for the helicopter itself and the president when he is on board. his actual safety is still secret service's job...the "MOS" your referring to isn't actually an MOS it is a security clearance called "yankee white"

SF (security Forces) Marines get screened for it (the process is very,very involved and in depth) and they are the Marines you see at the white house.

[commdog7]

The hardest part about that MOS is obtaining the security clearance. As the Marines have stated, your record has to be immaculate. If you need a waiver for anything to get into the Corps, you can forget about that MOS. Even an unpaid parking ticket can disqualify you from that MOS. Hope you haven't done any type of drugs.

[thewookie]

Hope you haven't done any type of drugs.


What if you don't inhale? And, now that Barrack is in office and he openly admits to sniffing some crack, are they gonna loosen up the guidelines? :sick:

[commdog7]

What if you don't inhale? And, now that Barrack is in office and he openly admits to sniffing some crack, are they gonna loosen up the guidelines? :sick:

Society might be loosening its standards, but the Corps never will, Rah!

[Petz]

HMX is not presidental security. HMX-1 Marines (chosen from MP school) are physical security for the helicopter itself and the president when he is on board. his actual safety is still secret service's job...the "MOS" your referring to isn't actually an MOS it is a security clearance called "yankee white"

SF (security Forces) Marines get screened for it (the process is very,very involved and in depth) and they are the Marines you see at the white house.


the reason being is that he is in OUR CUSTODY so if he ends up missing then the Corps gets blamed not the SS... jurisdiction is very much like children sharing toys... Imagine the Commander of MarineOne taking orders from SS while trying to avoid some kind of situation... PinTA.

great info here... and the reason for doing a 5 year contract is because of the extra training... it's all good though.

enjoy

[toodles]

I am currently assigned to HMX-1 as a MP. Most MP’s will be screened while attending the basic Military Police school. If you are found eligible to obtain the “Yankee White” clearance you will receive orders to HMX-1 as a 5811 Military Police. We do have Marines who are from the fleet, and they are screened the same way. When you become cleared and obtain the "Yankee White" clearance you obtain the additional MOS of 6162, Presidential Support Specialist. Once you have maintained your Yankee White clearance for one calendar year you become eligible for the Presidental Support Badge (PSB). Each badge is stamped with a unique serial number which, when issued, associates that badge with a specific individual.

We are not “physical security”, we are Military Police guarding the assets of the Presidents Helicopter to include the Helicopter. “Physical Security” is an additional MOS (5814) in the Military Police field.

Currently HMX-1 has the biggest Military Police section in the Marine Corps. I would say 99% of our Marines see the President at least 10 times, but we do have our Marines who have lost count on how many times they have seen the President. With that being said if you receive orders to HMX-1 as a Military Policeman you have a very good chance to see the President. If you didn’t notice one of the Marines standing outside of Marine One is a Military Policeman.

As far as a 5 year contract I know that the MOS 5811 Military Police is a 5 year contract for their first enlistment.

[Petz]

isn't it a lot of training to be a MP? I have no clue so I'd like the gouge.

if it isn't obvious I avoid MPs....

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Really, unless you are going for the 'thrill' of standing long hours, spending huge amounts of time on uniform/appearance, and perhaps once in awhile getting on TV, take a step back and look at the 0200 field you originally were interested in.

Why? Because there is zero assurance you'll get to 'see' the President or get selected to the detail. Camp David Marines are locked down more often than not and you sure won't leave when the President is there. (A buddy of mine spent 2 years there).

At least with the 0200 MOS you'll get to deploy and still get a TS clearance without all the crap that goes with those details. I have a great deal of respect for those who can put up with it but when you go to the fleet, you'll have to learn your BASIC MOS all over again and will have to earn the respect of those who've BTDT while you stood around in Dress Blues. If you really have that burning desire, then at least consider doing some fleet time BEFORE you jump into the YW details. You'll at least be an NCO or a senior LCpl and will get to perhaps have some of the cooler assignments instead of the usual stuff the 'boots' get.

Just my opine.

[ForeverChanged]

You have an extremely low chance of picking it up through the 03 SF field. If I recall correctly they started screening the recruits in bootcamp just like they do for recon and 8th & I with the 5yr SF contract and it continues through SOI and SF School.

[Fubar5812]

isn't it a lot of training to be a MP? I have no clue so I'd like the gouge.

if it isn't obvious I avoid MPs....

we go to an MOS school just like everyone else,alotofour job is OJT though...MP school just teaches you the basics but you won't really get proficient at being an MP until you get to the fleet and start sinking your teeth into ,domestics,traffic stops,assaults,missing persons,stolen property and alllllll the paperwork that accompanies that stuff.

idk about the field side though,waiting on my 2 yr mark of being on this rock and the monitor to see what that side of being an MP is all about.

[Geddings]

I know Im a little late on this but I have the answer to this question...when i went through the pipeline you had to be contract 03...then were selected at boot camp or soi...after soi they send u to security forces school after completion you wait for your security clearence to be obtained then off to 18 months of presidential security detail...once you served you 18month they ship back to the grunts! First and foremost you are an 03 and the presidential security is only a B billet(special duty)Oohrah!

[fudge]

I'll take a few minutes to write this reply and I hope every Marine considering HMX-1 as an MP will read this. I spent an enlistment there before going back to the fleet. When you hear about HMX-1, there's a lot that nobody tells you and it's something you need to know.

1) I hope you like firewatch.
The vast, vast majority of the time you spend will be standing posts that are incredibly boring and miserable. Here's a good exercise to help you understand what it's like. If it's summer, go outside wearing a stocking cap, a jacket and pants. Put a weight vest on over everything and stand in the sun. Stay there for two hours, go inside a warm warehouse and walk around for two hours, then repeat the outside portion. Once you have hit twelve hours of misery, wait 30 more minutes outside in the heat while you wait to be relieved by the oncoming shift. Now go inside, find a channel with a gospel preacher and listen to him for 30 minutes. Your debrief is complete. Now go to the gym. If your watch says you spent about 14 hours at work, you're on the right track. Now do this four or five days in a row and you have an idea of what you will be doing the majority of your time at HMX. Eventually, you will earn rank and move up on seniority but that just means you'll be walking around inside instead of outside. Now what I described above is a good day in the life of an HMX-1 Security Guard. Remember that you live in a fishbowl and Marines within and outside your chain of command get upset about events and take it out on you. There will be days of you doing stupid things just because. For example, Marines were made to walk back and forth along a dirt strip called Post 2 in the middle of the winter with no cold weather gear because somebody had miscounted cones at a different post a few days earlier.

2) You will see the President.
Negatives aside, you will see the President. Even if you do not get cleared and leave the unit, you will probably get to see him a few times. You will probably never talk to him but you'll probably see him. If you are cleared, you will see him and probably talk to him a very small amount. During my time there, I stopped counting how many times I was within feet of him.

3) You will travel.
Decisions as to who goes on trips largely revolves around favoritism in the unit so if you are well liked, expect to travel so much that you spend half your time away from Quantico. If you are not liked, you will be able to count your trips on a hand every year. Your job performance plays in to how much you trip though there is a marked personal aspect to it as well.

4) You lose MOS credibility.
After my time with HMX, I went back to the fleet with mixed feelings. I have some absolutely horrible memories from my time there and I would never, ever, do that tour again. That frustration was compounded by my return to the fleet. I was trained as a military police officer and when I got to Hawaii, I found that I knew very little about my actual MOS. I had no credibility and had to fight for respect. I was a squared away Marine in all areas but my MOS. I had to spend a lot of time every night schooling myself on my own MOS. It took me about a year to finally become proficient in the area I was supposed to be versed in already.

I urge you to reconsider going to HMX-1 Security. With your visions of being buds with the President or other glamorous dreams, you're in for a rude awakening. It was a rough unit. I was very, very glad to leave it.

[CQB0316]

The only Marines that go to a victor unit after Security Forces that have ANY MOS credibility are the ones who come from FAST Co. Trust me, the guys know the difference. PRP and 8th and I will get minimal respect if you come to a victor unit as a Cpl. If you come as a Lance you will get NONE. Choose your contract wisely.

[ggyoung]

How Meany HMX-1 are in that squadron?

[fudge]

Roughly 700-800 if I remember correctly.