View Full Version : I'm playing my FAVOR card right now: Hey anyone about to join the Marine Corps...
This is probably going to sound really bad and fellow Marines if you don't like it then have a mod gladly delete this thread.
I've more than given back to the poolees of Leatherneck.com and now i'm going to pull out my "favor" card and ask for something in return. I am a Lance Corporal in an MOS that had a 150% re-enlistment rate and is now being phased out of the Marine Corps, I am an 0351. Because of this it is impossible for me to pick up Corporal and a meritorious board is not possible because all quotas have been used up for this fiscal year in my unit. I am a high expert on both rifle and pistol, my last PFT was a 299, my pro/con's are 4.9/4.9, I have more than 40 completed MCI's, I am a Lance Corporal currently holding a STAFF SERGEANTS billet with Corporals and Sergeants under me, and above all else I kept my Marines alive during combat in Afghanistan - I am not ashamed to say and make it known that i'm a good ****ing Marine... but because of my MOS I simply can't pick up Corporal.
Why am I posting this? Because i've helped a lot of potential future Marines out here in the poolee forum over the past 3+ years and now i'm pulling out my "favor" card and asking for some help here, I need some guys who are about to join the Marine Corps that are joining because of reasons and help i've posted here on the poolee forums over the past few years to list me as their referral with their recruiter for joining the Marine Corps which would result in me getting bonus points towards promotion so I can hopefully pick up Corporal. I've referred at least 20 guys, in person, into the Marine Corps but just never thought to ask them to put me as their referral with their recruiters and I wish I had looking back. I cannot even fathom how many people joined the Marine Corps because of my "THIS IS THE ULTIMATE MOTIVATION FOR POOLEES" thread. A LOT of people have joined the Marine Corps based off of the help and information i've posted on here. This isn't a plea and i'm not begging, but i've honestly got no other options and i'm not just asking random people to list me as their referral for no reason, i've genuinely helped and referred countless people into the Marine Corps on this website and it'd be nice for a few who are about to join because of info I posted to give me that benefit for it in return. If you've already enlisted because of me and whatnot but haven't left for boot camp yet it's not too late and you can still list me as your referral.
Tried to lat move into an MOS that will pretty much change the rest of my life, passed the screening and everything required for the lat move but was told to come back when I picked up Corporal. Unfortunately people with brass on their collars don't understand that not everyone who deserves to be a CPL, is a CPL, because of things like getting screwed because you're in an MOS being phased out.
So PM me or whatever...
I haven't shipped yet but I can't remember if I I listed someone as a referral or not. I'll check in with my recruiter today and try and get you listed as my referrer. It's a shame that an infantryman, the backbone of the Corps, can't pick up MOS because of some red tape.
PM me your name and any other information I need and I'll do it for you, LCpl. I did swear in already on the 7th...not sure if that matters still?
davblay
03-30-09, 05:31 AM
John, if anyone deserved to be promoted, it's you. You are the finest Marine I have ever had the previlage to have known. You are right, most people don't understand the way things are in the Corps,...
Kierstead
03-30-09, 07:37 AM
i will refer you. pm your name and what not.
PaidinBlood
03-30-09, 07:44 AM
0351.....Semper Fi
SGT7477
03-30-09, 09:54 AM
You could get kissed on the lips by this Marine in a foxhole.:D
Dave, my office chair isn't cushy at all. I'll make a thread about that after my "I can't wait to EAS" commotion has died down.
John, I'd give you my chevrons if I could. In 2 years my rank won't matter. Besides its not like you have to even try to pick up with a 1410 cutting score. I didn't pick the MOS though so what am I gonna do right?
Wyoming
03-30-09, 10:18 AM
Dave, my office chair isn't cushy at all. I'll make a thread about that after my "I can't wait to EAS" commotion has died down.
John, I'd give you my chevrons if I could. In 2 years my rank won't matter. Besides its not like you have to even try to pick up with a 1410 cutting score. I didn't pick the MOS though so what am I gonna do right?
I read and re-read this and for the life of me, I couldn't find your name.
Must be your conscience bothering you.
this, well it's shaddy.
I'm outta here.
davblay
03-30-09, 07:18 PM
Dave, my office chair isn't cushy at all. I'll make a thread about that after my "I can't wait to EAS" commotion has died down.
John, I'd give you my chevrons if I could. In 2 years my rank won't matter. Besides its not like you have to even try to pick up with a 1410 cutting score. I didn't pick the MOS though so what am I gonna do right?
Matt, I speaking in general terms....but if you read your name into it,,,,then that's your conscience bothering you. Are you that kind of Corporal, or not?
Be advised, that if I have something to say about anyone, I say it! I don't really care if you like it or not. All you are is a DRAMA KING, with an ax to grind! Maybe you would have been happier if they had went ahead and made you that 0300 you wanted so bad when you enlisted, who knows? Right?
Dave
davblay
03-30-09, 07:19 PM
You could get kissed on the lips by this Marine in a foxhole.:D
I think he knows he'd only do it once, try that is!
Dave
chadhertz
03-30-09, 07:38 PM
I can't join until June but I'll refer you then if you still need it.
marine3043
03-30-09, 07:45 PM
thats so lame --asking for poollees to hook you up--- go on RA ---this is like sellnig girl scout cookies over the internet.
put my name down to ---oh wait my cpl cutting score is 1268---
sgt 1712---
go msg
Come on, give the LCpl a break. If you don't agree with what he's doing, thats fine. He has helped alot of people on here...And who knows if he pushed some to join or not.
While I love the Corps, they do kinda give the shaft compared to other branches for referrals. Whats the army giving now? $2000 per referral and still get PFC at 2 I believe?
I don't know all the stuff he was talking about not being able to pick up Cpl but he is an 0300 and they do bust ass. I don't know much about picking up rank but it seems unfair you can't because of some red tape.
Now, with that being said, I think he should go out and actually get some recruits and do some leg work (not sure how much free time he has though). Cousins? Brothers? Sisters? Friends? Family?
Either way, I wish you the absolute best. You're close enough to me that you could have recruited me if I had seen you walking down the street. Ugh...just a tad late
Marine84
03-30-09, 08:43 PM
I'm confused Flash.................how is using your name going to help towards your getting promoted? Back in the day all we got for referrals (after boot camp) was a piece of paper that gave you an "attaboy/girl".
SGT7477
03-30-09, 08:44 PM
I think he knows he'd only do it once, try that is!
Dave
Now Dave tell us how you really feel about this.:D
SGT7477
03-30-09, 08:46 PM
Come on, give the LCpl a break. If you don't agree with what he's doing, thats fine. He has helped alot of people on here...And who knows if he pushed some to join or not.
While I love the Corps, they do kinda give the shaft compared to other branches for referrals. Whats the army giving now? $2000 per referral and still get PFC at 2 I believe?
I don't know all the stuff he was talking about not being able to pick up Cpl but he is an 0300 and they do bust ass. I don't know much about picking up rank but it seems unfair you can't because of some red tape.
Now, with that being said, I think he should go out and actually get some recruits and do some leg work (not sure how much free time he has though). Cousins? Brothers? Sisters? Friends? Family?
Either way, I wish you the absolute best. You're close enough to me that you could have recruited me if I had seen you walking down the street. Ugh...just a tad late
We don't give any breaks, that's just the way it is.:evilgrin:
I'm confused Flash.................how is using your name going to help towards your getting promoted? Back in the day all we got for referrals (after boot camp) was a piece of paper that gave you an "attaboy/girl".
20 Points toward your Comp Score per referral.
Marine84
03-30-09, 09:01 PM
20 Points toward your Comp Score per referral.
Ah hell?
JWDevilDog
03-30-09, 09:35 PM
Yes, with a max of 100 points for referrals.
Hey man, I agree - do MSG. Not only is that a great tour of duty, but that's 100 points right there. Oh, need I remind you that it's a non-competitive MOS, which basically means you get promoted after a certain amount of time in that billet. Well, don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty darn sure about it. I heard it from one of my NCOs who was looking into MOS duty.
davblay
03-30-09, 10:21 PM
Now Dave tell us how you really feel about this.:D
Sgt....I don't have to explain myself to anyone! Think what you may, I don't give a damn! I have known John longer than I have you!
In the future...leave me out of your comedy posts, I ain't in to it! Plus I don'y feel like getting upset over this crap, Cancer is enough for me to worry about now!
Dave
speaking of cancer (and an attempt to hijack another thread in the sake of my enjoyment)
DAVE how is the battle???????? I hope all is well!!!
I'll send you half my liver if you need it, it'll grow back so I'm good!
keep motivating these future devil dogs for all of us! and Semper Fi Marine.
thats so lame --asking for poollees to hook you up--- go on RA ---this is like sellnig girl scout cookies over the internet.
put my name down to ---oh wait my cpl cutting score is 1268---
sgt 1712---
go msg
Our training schedule is too busy and I am too valuable to my unit for them to allow me to go on RA, believe me, i've tried.
Yes, with a max of 100 points for referrals.
Hey man, I agree - do MSG. Not only is that a great tour of duty, but that's 100 points right there. Oh, need I remind you that it's a non-competitive MOS, which basically means you get promoted after a certain amount of time in that billet. Well, don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty darn sure about it. I heard it from one of my NCOs who was looking into MOS duty.
If I go on MSG duty it's going to be because I want to go on MSG duty, not because of getting promoted or getting points. I'd rather stay in the fleet, train Marines to stay alive, lead Marines in combat, and kill more haji's - too bad you don't get bonus points for doing any of that.
or spelling hajjis wrong.... it's the hajj... and someone who has traveled on the hajj usually tend to be the good guys... and you know something, you're too late in the war to be calling them hajjis anyways, most of them are being duped into being bombers and snipers, etc., by Chechnyans (they're all criminals!) and other extremist groups... all just wanting to kill Americans.
you are no longer fighting Iraq, but you are trying to defend it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj
JWDevilDog
04-01-09, 03:27 AM
If I go on MSG duty it's going to be because I want to go on MSG duty, not because of getting promoted or getting points. I'd rather stay in the fleet, train Marines to stay alive, lead Marines in combat, and kill more haji's - too bad you don't get bonus points for doing any of that.
Very damn well. I can understand that sentiment, even though I'm a damned pog. Trust me, I wanted to be a grunt and do all the things you say, but I kinda got stuck in a pog MOS. I'm gonna make the most of my career, though.
Honestly though, devil, I can't think of anything else for you except the following. You could try a lat-move into a different 03 MOS. I don't know if that's for you or not, but at least that way you would still be right there in the thick of things, and you might have a shot to pick up. That's probably what I would do in your situation, honestly.
Good luck, wardog.
or spelling hajjis wrong.... it's the hajj... and someone who has traveled on the hajj usually tend to be the good guys... and you know something, you're too late in the war to be calling them hajjis anyways, most of them are being duped into being bombers and snipers, etc., by Chechnyans (they're all criminals!) and other extremist groups... all just wanting to kill Americans.
you are no longer fighting Iraq, but you are trying to defend it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj
Too late in the war? I've never been to Iraq, I don't care about Iraq, and i'm never going to Iraq. I've lived outside the wire for an entire deployed engaged in 24+ hour firefights throughout my entire Afghanistan deployment though. They're all scum, they're all hajji's, mooj, whatever you want to call them, it doesn't matter. I've never fought for Iraq, Afghanistan, or any of it's people. I've only fought for my fellow Marines in my platoon.
Already tried lat moving to another 03 MOS, not allowed man. In an infantry BN it doesn't really matter what your MOS is, if you're an 0331 and they need someone to fill the billet of an 0352 then...
0231Marine
04-01-09, 07:17 AM
or spelling hajjis wrong.... it's the hajj... and someone who has traveled on the hajj usually tend to be the good guys... and you know something, you're too late in the war to be calling them hajjis anyways, most of them are being duped into being bombers and snipers, etc., by Chechnyans (they're all criminals!) and other extremist groups... all just wanting to kill Americans.
you are no longer fighting Iraq, but you are trying to defend it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj
Oh God, not another person that believes the Checnyans are responsible for the insurgency.
If you only knew the truth!
NicholasITALY
04-01-09, 07:33 AM
I'm wondering why the other Marines don't support Accord. You are brothers, I know it might not be cool ask favors over the internet but this is what we do here. At least what you Marines do here. We ask and we get our answers. Accord has helped a lot of people just like everyone else in here. If he now need help, why not help him? I don't know how things work with the promotions/MOS etc but heck when someone needs help, needs help. He helped us, why shouldn't we help him?
I can only see a couple of Marines here supporting Accord.
But then again YOU ARE MARINES so this is your buisness, just wanted to share my 2 cents on what was going on here.
Well Nick, alot of the Marines on here are old and cranky. Even a decorated combat vet like Accord can't ask for something if its not "their way".
PaidinBlood
04-01-09, 07:51 AM
or spelling hajjis wrong.... it's the hajj... and someone who has traveled on the hajj usually tend to be the good guys... and you know something, you're too late in the war to be calling them hajjis anyways, most of them are being duped into being bombers and snipers, etc., by Chechnyans (they're all criminals!) and other extremist groups... all just wanting to kill Americans.
you are no longer fighting Iraq, but you are trying to defend it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj
How can you even try to knock his spelling? These are all transliterations of a different language...muj/mooj/mooge whatever. Every war or "vacation" has had a unique term of endearment IOT depersonalize or even demonize the enemy to aid in the instant and remorseful termination of said douchebag. Not saying these things are appropriate for public consumption but every Marine who serves in combat owns forever the right to say whatever the F he wants because he and his brothers purchase the rights to that campaign. SF
These are the only absolute spellings, and even then there are minor variations...
Hajji
الحجّي
"MUJ"AHEDIN
مجاهدين
NicholasITALY
04-01-09, 07:52 AM
Well Nick, alot of the Marines on here are old and cranky. Even a decorated combat vet like Accord can't ask for something if its not "their way".
I Got it. Thanks. :iwo:
KawiGunny
04-01-09, 07:55 AM
Well Nick, alot of the Marines on here are old and cranky. Even a decorated combat vet like Accord can't ask for something if its not "their way".
We do have some "old and cranky" Marines on here but there earned that title. They are the one's that blazed the trails that you and I walk down. Being a decorated combat vet doesn't make any difference either. This does become a moral and ethics issue though. Thats all I will say about it because I don't want to get into this mess of asking for this type of help.
KawiGunny
04-01-09, 07:59 AM
How can you even try to knock his spelling? These are all transliterations of a different language...muj/mooj/mooge whatever. Every war or "vacation" has had a unique term of endearment IOT depersonalize or even demonize the enemy to aid in the instant and remorseful termination of said douchebag. Not saying these things are appropriate for public consumption but every Marine who serves in combat owns forever the right to say whatever the F he wants because he and his brothers purchase the rights to that campaign. SF
These are the only absolute spellings, and even then there are minor variations...
Hajji
الحجّي
"MUJ"AHEDIN
مجاهدين
True. We do tend to make "slain" names for our enemy so as it doesn't seem personal. Saves on sleep to.
PaidinBlood
04-01-09, 08:03 AM
I got to typing too fast and outran my brain...apologies. Remorseful should have read remorseless... oops... What a mook.
SGT7477
04-01-09, 08:04 AM
I'm wondering why the other Marines don't support Accord. You are brothers, I know it might not be cool ask favors over the internet but this is what we do here. At least what you Marines do here. We ask and we get our answers. Accord has helped a lot of people just like everyone else in here. If he now need help, why not help him? I don't know how things work with the promotions/MOS etc but heck when someone needs help, needs help. He helped us, why shouldn't we help him?
I can only see a couple of Marines here supporting Accord.
But then again YOU ARE MARINES so this is your buisness, just wanted to share my 2 cents on what was going on here.
Some day you will figure it out stay along for the ride.:flag:
NoRemorse
04-01-09, 08:06 AM
I got to typing too fast and outran my brain...apologies. Remorseful should have read remorseless... oops... What a mook.
"Termination of said douchebag" now that's quotable.
JWDevilDog
04-01-09, 08:06 AM
Well dude I don't know about all this. You say your MOS is closed out and you rate a score high enough to be promoted to Cpl, and yet you are asking for referrals for 100 more points towards your cutting score. It doesn't add up, devil. Why ask for more points when you already rate the score?
Sorry, devil, I'm just not convinced.
PaidinBlood
04-01-09, 08:11 AM
Well dude I don't know about all this. You say your MOS is closed out and you rate a score high enough to be promoted to Cpl, and yet you are asking for referrals for 100 more points towards your cutting score. It doesn't add up, devil. Why ask for more points when you already rate the score?
Sorry, devil, I'm just not convinced.
He said he was high enough to be an 0311 or about any damned other job. not 0351 which was at 175-something.1756 I think.
NicholasITALY
04-01-09, 08:14 AM
Some day you will figure it out stay along for the ride.:flag:
Aye Sergeant.
KawiGunny
04-01-09, 08:18 AM
Well dude I don't know about all this. You say your MOS is closed out and you rate a score high enough to be promoted to Cpl, and yet you are asking for referrals for 100 more points towards your cutting score. It doesn't add up, devil. Why ask for more points when you already rate the score?
Sorry, devil, I'm just not convinced.
This is part of why I have been keeping my comments to myself on this topic. If they are closing out the MOS, they probably aren't promoting anyone to Cpl and above with that MOS. And if thats the case, 100 referals won't even help.
JWDevilDog
04-01-09, 08:58 AM
but unfortunately my MOS on paper is still 0351 so i've still got the 0351 cutting score even though the last time I ever did anything even remotely close to being an 0351 was 2.5 years ago in SOI.
I must've read this too quickly. I interpreted it to mean that his score is high enough, thus "I've still got the 0351 cutting score." I guess he mean't he's still stuck with the high ass score that comes with being on 0351, not that his is high enough.
My bad, attention to detail I guess. Gotta admit tho, gents, that the way he worded it is a bit ambiguous.
JWDevilDog
04-01-09, 09:24 AM
I am a Lance Corporal in an MOS that had a 150% re-enlistment rate and is now being phased out of the Marine Corps, I am an 0351. Because of this it is impossible for me to pick up Corporal and a meritorious board is not possible because all quotas have been used up for this fiscal year in my unit. I am a high expert on both rifle and pistol, my last PFT was a 299, my pro/con's are 4.9/4.9, I have more than 40 completed MCI's, I am a Lance Corporal currently holding a STAFF SERGEANTS billet with Corporals and Sergeants under me, and above all else I kept my Marines alive during combat in Afghanistan - I am not ashamed to say and make it known that i'm a good ****ing Marine... but because of my MOS I simply can't pick up Corporal.
Ok, honestly Accord, I just don't understand. After re-reading your posts that have info about your MOS in them, honestly there are some discrepancies.
First, you say your MOS is being phased out, and it is "impossible" for you to pick up Cpl. If this is true, that 100 points from recruiting will not possibly help.
Second, you say all quotas have been used for this fiscal year. You realize the fiscal year is half over, right? Which means in October, if your MOS allows any new Cpls, you can be recommend for a meritorious board. Which, if you are really as good on paper and as a leader as you say you are, then it won't be a problem at all to be recommended for a meritorious board. Also, if you are this good, you won't have a problem winning the board.
Tried to lat move into an MOS that will pretty much change the rest of my life, passed the screening and everything required for the lat move but was told to come back when I picked up Corporal.
If I go on MSG duty it's going to be because I want to go on MSG duty, not because of getting promoted or getting points. I'd rather stay in the fleet, train Marines to stay alive, lead Marines in combat, and kill more haji's - too bad you don't get bonus points for doing any of that.
Third, you say you tried to lat-move into an MOS that will change the rest of your life. What do you mean by that? If you mean a pog MOS, then that second statement, quoted above about MSG duty, is inconsistent with your first. The only way they could be consistent with each other is if by the first statement you meant you tried lat-moving into an MOS that is infantry. Which, by the sounds of it, is not the case.
Our training schedule is too busy and I am too valuable to my unit for them to allow me to go on RA, believe me, i've tried.
Fourth, and my final point for now, if you are really as valuable to your unit as you say you are, then you would be more valuable to them as a Corporal of Marines than as a Lance coolie. Your chain of command, with all their incredible years of experience combined amongst them, would recognize that. If you are as valuable and sh*t-hot as you say, then your chain of command would send you on RA to help you get that 100 points. Also, if they truly will not allow you to go on RA and if you want to pick up Cpl so bad, you could request to be transferred to another unit, where you would be just as invaluable there. Sure, you would have to re-establish yourself, but that wouldn't be difficult at all for someone of your.... stature. I maintain, though, that any chain of command who truly cares about their Marines (and if I understand grunt units as well as I think, that is just about any experienced grunt unit in the Marine Corps, more so than most pog units) would want a super sh*t-hot LCPL as a Cpl instead of an E-3.
Now, maybe you will say that you perform a Cpl's job already anyway, so rank really doesn't matter. If that is the case, why did you make this thread?
0231Marine
04-01-09, 11:25 AM
Oh boy, here we go.
1) That was way to much research and comparative analysis than I would have thought was possible for this site so I'm conflicted on whether to commend JWDD or just shake my head and say "What the hell was that all about?"
2) Bottom line here is, and this is directed at the poolee's as much as Accord...I don't think Accord should get these points through the means he's requesting. There is a certain amount of integrity and honesty that we as Marines are supposed to display and just because your MOS is closed out for promotion doesn't mean all of that should fly out the window. My MOS closed out for Sgt 2 months before I was eligible and I EAS'd after 2 1/2 years as a Corporal with a 1793 cutting score. Was I ****ed that I didn't see Sgt before I got out even though I was a pretty damn good Marine and an excellent Intelligence Analyst? Sh!t yeah I was but that's the way it is and the Marine Corps didn't see fit to promote me because it had enough Sgt's already in my MOS.
So in closing, I just think that Accord, as much as I like you from what I've seen on this forum, this is just wrong and not a part of what being a Marine is about. If you want to see Cpl or even a rank beyond that, there are other means and several have been laid out on here already (Ex: MSG). Improvise, Adapt, Overcome right? Not cheat the system!
Too late in the war? I've never been to Iraq, I don't care about Iraq, and i'm never going to Iraq. I've lived outside the wire for an entire deployed engaged in 24+ hour firefights throughout my entire Afghanistan deployment though. They're all scum, they're all hajji's, mooj, whatever you want to call them, it doesn't matter. I've never fought for Iraq, Afghanistan, or any of it's people. I've only fought for my fellow Marines in my platoon.
....*sigh* I guess I didn't put enough sillyness into my post, I was TRYING to give you a hard time... it's like when you say black ops in front of a dark green Marine and they call you racist... but I guess my joke wasn't even remotely funny.... I guess I'll start over from the drawing board.
:iwo:
0231Marine
04-01-09, 11:59 AM
....*sigh* I guess I didn't put enough sillyness into my post, I was TRYING to give you a hard time... it's like when you say black ops in front of a dark green Marine and they call you racist... but I guess my joke wasn't even remotely funny.... I guess I'll start over from the drawing board.
:iwo:
Strike 1 SSgt :bunny:
Well dude I don't know about all this. You say your MOS is closed out and you rate a score high enough to be promoted to Cpl, and yet you are asking for referrals for 100 more points towards your cutting score. It doesn't add up, devil. Why ask for more points when you already rate the score?
Sorry, devil, I'm just not convinced.
It doesn't add up because you've been in the fleet for a very short time and they don't teach this stuff in boot camp, not to mention the fact that you're not an 03 so I wouldn't expect you to know the current state of affairs among all 03's. I know what I need to do to get promoted and I don't care if some boot thinks it doesn't add up, if you read what I said you'd clearly see that I stated I already rate the score for CPL in any other MOS in the infantry... if I was an 0352 instead of an 0351 I would be a SERGEANT right now, but because i'm a 51 i'm still a Lance.
This is part of why I have been keeping my comments to myself on this topic. If they are closing out the MOS, they probably aren't promoting anyone to Cpl and above with that MOS. And if thats the case, 100 referals won't even help.
It recently changed, if you get the 5 referrals for 100 points you receive an automatic meritorious promotion now.
and just 'cause his MOS is coming to an end doesn't mean they can't make him an 0311... and if I'm mistaken a 0311 is what every grunt is until they goto their specialty school....
so that means he'll compete against a much larger MOS... one that is bloated as it is with the over retention the Corps has allowed.
and then there will be a replacement system for the 0351... at which point all the old 0351s might get an opportunity to goto that... unless of course they are/aren't doing something like that.
are you confused yet?
0231Marine
04-01-09, 12:04 PM
and just 'cause his MOS is coming to an end doesn't mean they can't make him an 0311... and if I'm mistaken a 0311 is what every grunt is until they goto their specialty school....
so that means he'll compete against a much larger MOS... one that is bloated as it is with the over retention the Corps has allowed.
and then there will be a replacement system for the 0351... at which point all the old 0351s might get an opportunity to goto that... unless of course they are/aren't doing something like that.
are you confused yet?
147% confused!
It recently changed, if you get the 5 referrals for 100 points you receive an automatic meritorious promotion now.
where's the MarAdmin or order that states this Devil Dog.
0231Marine
04-01-09, 12:08 PM
It doesn't add up because you've been in the fleet for a very short time and they don't teach this stuff in boot camp, not to mention the fact that you're not an 03 so I wouldn't expect you to know the current state of affairs among all 03's. I know what I need to do to get promoted and I don't care if some boot thinks it doesn't add up, if you read what I said you'd clearly see that I stated I already rate the score for CPL in any other MOS in the infantry... if I was an 0352 instead of an 0351 I would be a SERGEANT right now, but because i'm a 51 i'm still a Lance.
I truly believe you're a good Marine Accord but keep in mind you've only been in a little over two years. No way would you be a Sgt by now in any MOS but regardless, I wish you the best, I just hope you do it while upholding everything the Marine Corps instills in everyone of us.
What are you going to tell your junior Marines some day when they come to you and say, "Cpl, I'm never going to become an NCO because the MOS is closed out."? Are you going to proceed to tell them how to cheat to become an NCO of Marines?
thedrifter
04-01-09, 12:09 PM
I'm closing this down....
Accord asked the Poolees for help....which is his Right....
Now I Respect Everyones opinions..but..I do feel this is not the proper forum to show that we sometimes don't agree or dis-agree on a subject.....
Remember we are here to help each other.."Marines Helping Marines"..;)
Ellie