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thedrifter
05-18-06, 05:35 AM
May 17, 2006
Murtha: Marines may have killed Haditha civilians in cold blood

By Christian Lowe
Times staff writer

Rep. John Murtha, an influential Pennsylvania lawmaker and outspoken critic of the war in Iraq, said today Marines had “killed innocent civilians in cold blood” after allegedly responding to a roadside bomb ambush that killed a Marine during a patrol in Haditha, Iraq, Nov. 19.

The incident is still under investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and Multi-National Forces Iraq.

The Marine Corps originally claimed that a convoy from the Camp Pendleton, Calif.-based Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines, hit a roadside bomb that killed Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas, 20, of El Paso, Texas, and the ensuing firefight killed 15 Iraqi civilians — casualties the Corps at first claimed were killed in the bomb blast — including seven women and three children.

A March 27 Time magazine report published claims by an Iraqi civil rights group that the Marines barged into houses near the bomb strike, throwing grenades and shooting civilians as they cowered in fear. The report prompted calls for a Pentagon probe.

“It’s much worse than was reported in Time magazine,” Murtha, a Democrat, former Marine colonel and Vietnam war veteran, told reporters on Capitol Hill.

“There was no firefight. There was no [bomb] that killed those innocent people,” Murtha explained, adding there were “about twice as many” Iraqis killed than Time had reported.

No official investigation report has been released by the Pentagon and a spokesman for Murtha was unable to add to the congressman’s remarks.


“I do not know where Rep. Murtha is obtaining is information,” said Lt. Col. Sean Gibson, a spokesman for Marine Corps Forces Central Command in Tampa, Fla. “Thoroughness will drive the investigation.”

Three Marine officers from the battalion that is under investigation, including battalion commander Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, were relieved April 7 for “lack of confidence in their leadership abilities stemming from their performance during a recent deployment to Iraq.” Officials would not tie those firings to the Haditha investigation, however. The two other Marines who were relieved, Capts. Luke McConnell and James Kimber, were company commanders within the battalion.

Murtha said combat stress prompted the Marines’ alleged rampage.

“It’s a very serious incident, unfortunately. It shows the tremendous pressure that these guys are under every day when they’re out in combat,” he said. “One man was killed with an [improvised explosive device] and after that they actually went into the houses and killed women and children.”

Time magazine spent 10 weeks interviewing local residents affected by the incident and, in January, shared these accounts with military officials in Baghdad. The accounts directly conflicted with the Corps’ initial stance that the civilian casualties were the result of the insurgent attack.

Officials with Multi-National Corps-Iraq launched an investigation Feb. 14 after Time brought the allegations to their attention. Army Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, commander of MNC-I, directed further review March 9 after he was presented with initial findings of the investigation.

Chiarelli then handed the findings to Marine Maj. Gen. Richard Zilmer, the new military commander for western Iraq.

Lt. Col. Bryan Salas, in a March 23 e-mail response to questions, said Zilmer directed the Naval Criminal Investigative Service to look into the allegations.

The Nov. 19 incident came one year after another high-profile incident that enflamed tensions between U.S. forces and Iraqis.

On Nov. 13, 2004, a corporal with 3/1 was videotaped shooting what appeared to be a wounded insurgent inside a mosque in Fallujah, Iraq, during the major U.S. operation to retake the city from insurgents.

Like the Haditha incident, the Fallujah shooting sparked outcries from human-rights groups regarding actions by U.S. forces against Iraqis.

Staff writer Gidget Fuentes contributed to this report.

Ellie

thedrifter
05-18-06, 05:38 AM
Lawmaker: Marines killed Iraqis ‘in cold blood’
Navy conducting war crimes probe into November violence in Haditha

By Jim Miklaszewski
and Mike Viqueira
NBC News
Updated: 9:27 p.m. ET May 17, 2006

WASHINGTON - A Pentagon probe into the death of Iraqi civilians last November in the Iraqi city of Haditha will show that U.S. Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood," a U.S. lawmaker said Wednesday.

From the beginning, Iraqis in the town of Haditha said U.S. Marines deliberately killed 15 unarmed Iraqi civilians, including seven women and three children.

One young Iraqi girl said the Marines killed six members of her family, including her parents. “The Americans came into the room where my father was praying,” she said, “and shot him.”

On Wednesday, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said the accounts are true.

Military officials told NBC News that the Marine Corps' own evidence appears to show Murtha is right.

A videotape taken by an Iraqi showed the aftermath of the alleged attack: a blood-smeared bedroom floor and bits of what appear to be human flesh and bullet holes on the walls.

The video, obtained by Time magazine, was broadcast a day after town residents told The Associated Press that American troops entered homes on Nov. 19 and shot dead 15 members of two families, including a 3-year-old girl, after a roadside bomb killed a U.S. Marine.

On Nov. 20, U.S. Marines spokesman Capt. Jeffrey Pool issued a statement saying that on the previous day a roadside bomb had killed 15 civilians and a Marine. In a later gunbattle, U.S. and Iraqi troops killed eight insurgents, he said.

U.S. military officials later confirmed that the version of events was wrong.

Murtha, a vocal opponent of the war in Iraq, said at a news conference Wednesday that sources within the military have told him that an internal investigation will show that "there was no firefight, there was no IED (improvised explosive device) that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

Military officials say Marine Corp photos taken immediately after the incident show many of the victims were shot at close range, in the head and chest, execution-style. One photo shows a mother and young child bent over on the floor as if in prayer, shot dead, said the officials, who spoke to NBC News on condition of anonymity because the investigation hasn't been completed.

One military official says it appears the civilians were deliberately killed by the Marines, who were outraged at the death of their fellow Marine.

“This one is ugly," one official told NBC News.

Three Marine officers — commanders in Haditha — have been relieved of duty, and at least 12 Marines in all are under investigation for what would be the worst single incident involving the deliberate killing of civilians by U.S. military in Iraq.

The Marine Corps issued a statement in response to Murtha's remarks:

"There is an ongoing investigation; therefore, any comment at this time would be inappropriate and could undermine the investigatory and possible legal process. As soon as the facts are known and decisions on future actions are made, we will make that information available to the public to the fullest extent allowable."

Murtha held the news conference to mark six months since his initial call for "redeployment" of U.S. forces from Iraq.

He said U.S. forces were under undue pressure in Iraq because of poor planning and allocation of resources by the Bush administration.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

Ellie

thedrifter
05-18-06, 11:45 AM
JOHN MURTHA HANGS THE MARINES <br />
By Michelle Malkin · May 18, 2006 07:33 AM <br />
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Expose the Left has the video of Rep. Murtha's verdict first, trial later condemnation of the US Marines. Here's the...

thedrifter
05-19-06, 08:11 AM
Democratic 2008 Presidential Nominee Crowned
Posted By Froggy
Black Five

BREAKING NEWS-MUST CREDIT FROGGY-BREAKING NEWS

The DNC has decided to skip the Primaries in 2008 having already found their ideal candidate in Representative John "Blue Falcon" Murtha. Coming off a tough loss in 2004, the Democrats have decided to stick with their tried and true strategy to nominate veterans who come back from war to denounce their former comrades in arms as a means of gaining notoriety and political advantage.

"John Kerry was a hero for speaking truth to power, man. But, I mean this Murtha dude isn't trashing Vietnam vets, he taking on the baby killers of Baghdad. You got any weed, bro?" said a patchouli stinking hippy from Venice Beach earlier today.

But it's not just the braindead stoner/Democrat activist passed out on the beach who is excited by the electoral prospects at work here. The lefty blogs can hardly contain their glee:

Now can we compare it to Viet Nam?

It's going to be a while before anyone really wants to address the issue of the incident at Haditha because no one wants to look like they are capitalizing on it for cheap political advantage, but it's now on the table and I believe that very soon we will speak of Haditha in the same way as we now speak of Abu Ghraib.

Too be honest, I've been been waiting for something like this to come to light because I feel like I'm watching the same war movie that I watched playing out in the late sixties when I was a teen.

That's pretty much the sentiment on the left right now. They have been waiting for an issue with traction to glom onto and ride back into the White House. Now they think they've got a twofer with a messenger to go along with their issue. Unfortunately for Hillary its a case of too little, too late. She was notably on the forefront of politicizing a tragic event by using the Columbine massacre as a platform to flog the NRA and push for stricter gun control laws. But sadly, that's old news, and the Democratic base has moved on.org

A top Democratic strategist speaking on the condition of anonimity told Froggy, "Murtha is a slamdunk Presidential nominee for us. Hillary is great and all, and we have tremendous respect for Bill Clinton and his ability to use the Oval office to get hummers and tax hikes through. But she just doesn't have the Democratic street cred that Murtha does. I mean, we're always on the lookout for somebody who is willing to betray his countrymen to gain politically, and well, Murtha is at the top of the heap."

Froggy OUT

Ellie

thedrifter
05-23-06, 01:06 PM
May 29, 2006

‘In cold blood’?
Hadithah incident worse than reports suggest, Murtha says; Corps still investigating

By Christian Lowe and Rick Maze
Times staff writers


Rep. John Murtha, a traditionally hawkish Democratic lawmaker and outspoken critic of the war in Iraq, said May 17 that Marines had “killed innocent civilians in cold blood” after allegedly responding to a roadside bomb ambush that killed a Marine during a patrol in Hadithah, Iraq, on Nov. 19.

The incident is still under investigation by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service and Multi-National Forces-Iraq.

The Marine Corps originally claimed that a convoy from the Camp Pendleton, Calif.-based Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines, hit a roadside bomb that killed Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas, 20, of El Paso, Texas, and that the ensuing firefight killed 15 Iraqi civilians — including seven women and three children — who the Corps initially said were killed in the bomb blast.


A March 27 Time magazine report published claims by an Iraqi civil rights group that the Marines barged into houses near the bomb strike, throwing grenades and shooting civilians as they cowered in fear. The report prompted calls for a Pentagon investigation.

“It’s much worse than was reported in Time magazine,” Murtha, a former Marine colonel and Vietnam War veteran, told reporters on Capitol Hill.

“There was no firefight. There was no [bomb] that killed those innocent people,” Murtha said, adding there were “about twice as many” Iraqis killed as Time had reported.

No official investigation report has been released by the Pentagon.

“I do not know where Rep. Murtha is obtaining his information,” said Lt. Col. Sean Gibson, a spokesman for Marine Corps Forces Central Command in Tampa, Fla. “Thoroughness will drive the investigation.”

Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, told reporters on May 19 that the Multi-National Forces-Iraq investigation was expected to be completed in one week’s time. The NCIS probe will likely be finished in June, he said.

Hunter promised hearings on the matter when the reports are completed.

“Initial reports that came up through the chain of command clearly didn’t tell the whole story,” he said.

Hunter added that as a whole, U.S. troops have “done well” in the region. “I don’t want to see the troops tarred by one squad in one place on one morning,” he said.

He did say, though, that the civilian casualty count is higher — around 20 — than initially reported.

Three Marine officers from the battalion that is under investigation, including battalion commander Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani, were relieved April 7 for “lack of confidence in their leadership abilities stemming from their performance during a recent deployment to Iraq.” Officials would not tie those firings to the Hadithah investigation. The two other Marines who were relieved, Capts. Luke McConnell and James Kimber, were company commanders within the battalion.

Murtha said combat stress prompted the alleged rampage.

“It’s a very serious incident, unfortunately. It shows the tremendous pressure that these guys are under every day when they’re out in combat,” he said.

“One man was killed with an [improvised explosive device], and after that, they actually went into the houses and killed women and children,” Murtha said.

Hunter said he rejected the notion that combat stress caused the alleged incident. “There is no evidence to back that up,” he said.

Time magazine spent 10 weeks interviewing local residents affected by the incident and, in January, shared these accounts with military officials in Baghdad.

The accounts directly conflicted with the Corps’ initial stance that the civilian casualties were the result of the insurgent attack.

Officials with Multi-National Corps-Iraq launched an investigation Feb. 14 after Time brought the allegations to their attention. Army Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, commander of MNC-I, directed further review March 9 after he was presented with initial findings of the investigation.

Staff writer Gidget Fuentes contributed to this report.