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bmclark
01-14-06, 12:23 PM
I leave for PI on monday. I am concerned about my running. I have made leaps and bounds in the 3 weeks I had prior to shipping (I just signed after Xmas). I went from feeling dead after jogging 2 mins/walking 2 mins for 2 miles to jogging 1.5 miles without stopping (not very fast though). The limiting factor is not my legs being tired but it is my breathing. I start panting after only a short amount of time and I do everything I can to slow down my breathing and keep it under control.

Is this normal? Does one just continue to run feeling as though they cannot get enough air to breathe?

Does anyone have any tips for me since I head out in 2 days?

Thanks,
Bryan Clark

dscusmc
01-14-06, 01:36 PM
First let me say, good luck as you leave for PI, you'll be fine as long as you never quit. As far as your breathing, heavy breathing is supposed to happen when you are running faster or farther than your body is conditioned to go. Boot camp will build your endurance and aerobic capacity in a hurry. Some of the best runners will tell you to just run as hard as you can and don't worry about the science and all that other stuff. But, that doesn't really help you much, so I'll offer some suggestions.

The best way to improve your aerobic capacity is with long slow distance running. Unfortunately, you don't have time at this point. One problem you could have is shallow breathing. Try taking deeper breathes and do what they call belly breathing. The idea is that if you are short of breath, its not because you aren't breathing in enough, its because you aren't breathing out enough. The point is to empty your lungs out to let fresh air in. One way to practice is by exhaling as if you are blowing out a candle. Empty your lungs by pulling your belly in towards your spine. When you've blown out as much as you can, inhale naturally and fill your lungs as deeply as possible. When you get to the rifle range at PI, you will learn all about your natural respiratory pause at the end of exhaling. Expand your lower rib cage as you inhale. Some good runners will tell you to match your breathing with your cadence. For instance, breath out for three steps and in for two, or whatever works best for you. Former Marine, Dr. Miller, recommends belly breathing in his book Programmed to Run.

Another way to improve your breathing is simply by relaxing. If your muscles are tense, its harder for oxygen to squeeze into your cells.

I read a funny quote not too long ago. Somebody asked a world class runner whether they breathe through their mouth or nose. The elite runner said that he breathes everywhere and he would breathe through his ears if he could.

Bottom line: your aerbobic capacity will improve at boot camp, so don't worry too much. Keep running hard, it will get easier. Learn to relax your breathing, it will help you on the rifle range too. Try belly-breathing, see if it works. I hope that helps, pm if have questions. Good luck, see you in a few months.

mrbsox
01-14-06, 03:03 PM
To expand on the Lt. as I can recall from those many years ago;

The concept of breathing is all about OXYGEN flow. O2 in, CO2 out. The muscles NEED O2 to do their job.
The BLOW on exhale does help, at times. Clears out the left overs and gets fresh in.

What I found more to my benefit about breating during a run, was that it takes your mind off of the running. Chants, cadence, talking to a buddy while running... takes your mind off of it. And builds a rythm to the breathing. In on the left foot (every other) out on the right (every other).
Then.... skip a step. By that I mean EXTEEEEENNNNNDDDD the breath time. Take 2 full strides to inhale.... 2 strides to exhale. Mix it up.

And believe it or not, the training will have you doing these things with out you realizing it. Then... one day... you'll be doing it naturally.

LittleDevilDog
01-14-06, 05:09 PM
Good luck, Bryan! Come back a Marine!

bmclark
01-14-06, 06:36 PM
Thanks for the responses. I think I probably will do better while singing cadences. I will try the belly breathing as well, I found some information earlier today about that. I am sure the Drill Instructors will keep me "motivated" enough to continue ;).

Thanks again,
Bryan Clark

KJonesP8ntball
01-14-06, 07:45 PM
Here is a incredable technique to help your run times. My wrestling coaches taught the hole team this. When you run exhale on your left foot that should stop you from getting side aches (you know the ones on your right side). The reason for this is your liver is on your right side and when you exhale on your right foot it adds stress to your liver causing it to cramp. Breathing on your left foot takes this pressure off your liver. It works wonders.

PooleeFritz43
01-14-06, 11:23 PM
I am a poolee to and we have to run an IST every month and when we do our 1.5 mile run I always sing cadence to myself because it helps me control my breathing and for some reason it takes almost a minute off my time.

Poolee Jeremiah Fritz, USMC

Accord
01-15-06, 12:58 AM
I was having trouble with my running until I found a breathing pattern that worked for me. If you take short fast breaths then you will get tired very quickly and this was a big problem for me, but I read an article online (I believe it was a Stew Smith article) and the article recommended breathing in such a manner as if to mimick yawning. Very DEEP and LONG breaths of air, I tried this and it worked absolutely perfect for me, but everyone is different.

If you're not well conditioned then it will be difficult to maintain a consistent breathing pattern throughout your runs and the only way to improve on this is to just increase your physical conditioning, and i'm sure your Drill Instructors will make sure that happens :D.

Tobes03
01-17-06, 02:55 AM
Drill Instructor Staff Sergeant Fernandez taught me a technique in receiving that seemed to help quite significantly. It involves breathing in twice in sequence through the nose and breathing out twice in sequence through the mouth. In in (nose) out out (mouth). The main thing is just control your breathing, think positively, and above all else push yourself! Your heart can’t explode from exhaustion but you can sure try to make it.

ChappyChaps11
07-10-06, 12:34 PM
To expand on the Lt. as I can recall from those many years ago;

The concept of breathing is all about OXYGEN flow. O2 in, CO2 out. The muscles NEED O2 to do their job.
The BLOW on exhale does help, at times. Clears out the left overs and gets fresh in.

What I found more to my benefit about breating during a run, was that it takes your mind off of the running. Chants, cadence, talking to a buddy while running... takes your mind off of it. And builds a rythm to the breathing. In on the left foot (every other) out on the right (every other).
Then.... skip a step. By that I mean EXTEEEEENNNNNDDDD the breath time. Take 2 full strides to inhale.... 2 strides to exhale. Mix it up.

And believe it or not, the training will have you doing these things with out you realizing it. Then... one day... you'll be doing it naturally.


Thats really good, I like the second part best and I have been trying to memorize some cadences but that second one actual wrote a new one for me so maybe this will help remember what to do AND form a rhythm.
The tone is kinda flat if that helps you to chant it:

In on the left foot
Out on the right foot
Breath in (said quicker)
Breath out (said quicker)
Left foot (said quicker)
Right foot (said quicker)
Breath in (said quicker)
Breath out (said quicker)
Said in on the left foot
Out on the right foot
Skip a step (said quicker)
Skip a step (said quicker)
Extend your breath


repeat, but my favorite one is Follow Me, I just like the tone and its easy to remember and run with.

Heeeeeey their army! What are you doing?
Get off your tanks and follow me
I am marine corps infantry!
Heeeeeey their navy! What are you doing?
Get off your ships and follow me
I am marine corps infantry!
Heeeeeey their air force! What are you doing?
Get off your planes and follow me
I am marine corps infantry!

Goodluck

toomuchmoto
07-10-06, 02:47 PM
Hey, some advice . . . every other left foot, either breath in or breath out
left (in)
right
left
right
left (out)
right
left
right
left (in) . . . .

this will not only help you breath properly, but will take your focus off the running . . .

Barret
07-15-06, 05:47 PM
Do you guys call Cadence out loud when you are running? If I even whisper cadence to myself, I run out of steam alot quicker, and it adds about 40-50 seconds to my times.

Lithium
07-15-06, 09:53 PM
I ran a the 1.5 mile in 9:34 so this works for me. There really isnt a pattern for breathing that I use, just make sure you take DEEP breathes.

The more air you get into your body, the less fatigued and out of breath you get.

Accord
07-15-06, 09:56 PM
Learn to breathe through your diaphragm rather than your chest and running will become exponentially easier.

kovanfleet
07-15-06, 11:22 PM
swimming alot has helped me get my breathing under control. just have to find a pattern that fits yourself and then it just gets easier.

rulichan
07-31-06, 10:14 PM
i just want to say thanks to all Mr. Marines :)
i just started to run and read the "exhale with the left foot", so i just browsed to see whether there are others that are practising this. I tried it and it sort of works for me, because i haven't experienced any side aches since then.
thank you Mr. Marines.

ScottyG
08-01-06, 02:47 PM
The hardest part of running is not thinking about the pain and trying to focus on other things. The breathing method which recommened taking a breath out while on the left foot is very clever and it works very well to relive stomach pains. Of course having a strong core (stomach) from doing crunches also helps control those pesky side aches.

2 sharp out breaths and 1 long breath in over and over. Thats my method breathe in from the nose out from the mouth... That makes sense who wants to upchuck through their nose anyways.

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