"An Army Of One"

[danjate]

I got a question, or maybe I was just wondering. I know alot of you guys have seen those Army commercials, thier thing to get people to join, you know the typical recruiting thing. My comment about the Army is at the end of the commercial or for that matter any where you see Army stuff, they got that saying "An Army Of One". Now to me that promotes being alone, working by your self, or being singled out. I think that the Army is trying to hard to get some kind of matto or something like that, which sounds like or somewhat comes close to being what the Marines have. Semper Fidelis or Band Of Brothers are just a few that come to mind. It's just some food for thought.

Semper Fi

[Sparrowhawk]

call my home, the other day asking to speak to my daughter who had graduated from High School.

He wanted to recruit her into the Army. Of course I mentioned that this was a Marine Corps family besides I said;

"How long are you going to stay in?"

He said, till 2010, so I tells him to call back then.

He was puzzled about this, and so I said. If she wanted to go Army she wouldn't be able to do that until 2010.

How come he asked?

"Because, it’s an Army of One, and she'll have to wait until you get out.

LOL

http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/uploads/medium/041112A_0N521abc.jpg
"Being an Army of One, makes it lonely, out here."

[greensideout]

Marines are such a**holes!---lol

The Army does their work well too. It just doesn't take as many to do it.---lol

[JAMarine]

Your joking right?

[danjate]

no joke, an army of one? who wants to be in an army by them selfs.

[Toby M]

Greensideout..Yeah, but they're our **s****s!!! LOL

[JAMarine]

Your killing me.

An Army of One. = Working as One...... Am I missing something here?

[danjate]

i understand the concepte behind the saying it's just the way it's phased along w/ the 1 star, to me is just doesn't promote a group thing, then again i'm not trying to redesign thier logo or anything. just odd

[snipowsky]

ARMY = Aren't Ruthless Marines Yet!

[JAMarine]

Good one Sky.

I understand what your saying danjate. My Son is now over in the Sand Box as that Army Of One. He doesn't understand it either.....

Kinda cool commercials though.

But then again they'll never match up to ours...

Sempers


rich

[Sparrowhawk]

Elaine Donnelly,

president, the Center for Military Readiness



Surveys done by the army's new advertising agency found that potential young recruits fear intimidating drill instructors and faceless regimentation in uniform. To overcome such anxieties, the vaguely New Age slogan, "An Army of One" was introduced not during the Superbowl but on Friends, The Simpsons, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The idea is to promote self-esteem, individuality, humanitarianism, and way-cool technology that makes warfare look like a video game.

Even though young men are the Army's primary audience, the ads are subtly unisex. Nevermind that the Marine Corps has had great success recruiting young men with unabashed masculine-oriented ads. In the highly competitive auto industry some companies use words like "aggressive" and ferocious to market large trucks to men while others sell small vehicles to women by spoofing huge SUVs. What do the Marines and auto marketers know that the Army does not want to admit?

The first "Army of One" ad features a soldier running along in the desert with a rucksack but not a Rifle. Future ads will depict soldiers doing a battlefield simulation exercise in their tent, a helicopter pilot who has never to fire his weapons in action, a medical specialist helping earthquake vicitims, and a mother talking with pride about her son in the Army. The message is designed to attract girls and guys at the same time, but what about the young adventure seeker who is ready to kiss his momma goodbye?

The ambiguous "Army of One" slogan is politically correct but it should not become the blueprint for "transformation" of the Army into an "ungendered" society. What the Army needs now is genuine confidence, not cultural confusion.

[Sparrowhawk]

John Allen Williams, co-editor of The Postmodern Military: Armed Forces After the Cold War.


The U.S. Army's new advertising slogan, "An Army of One," is so misguided it is hard to know where to begin. It conveys the wrong message to potential recruits and makes a recruiting centerpiece out of self-absorption. It is a reminder of the unfortunate "The U.S. Army Wants to Join You" campaign from the 1970s — at a time when the Marine Corps was reeling in recruits with the more realistic "We Never Promised You a Rose Garden." Young people lured into the Army under these false pretenses will be mightily surprised when they get to boot camp and disgruntled soldiers if they get through it

[greensideout]

Or does the Army really have it together?
It seems that many young people are caught up in the "self- absorption" thing. I have seen it on this site with the poolees. "I can do 300 crunchs, 35 pull-ups and run for four miles." Every time I read that kind of thing I think, "who really gives a sh*t! I wonder if you can make it as team member in the Corps and care more about what your fellow squad members can do---as a team!"

[danjate]

greensideout

no kinding, if your that good you should be thinking of helping out the rest of your squad or other members of your platoon. so, not one but all

[greensideout]

dangate,

But that is still a lesson to come for them.

[greensideout]

As a training NCO with the Army, I would have LTC's come to me and ask, is the training as good as the Marines?

Makes you grin, right?

It always made me grin too!

[danjate]

-LOL-

good ONE,
get it

[yellowwing]

In Junior High School, an Army guy came out and addressed the student body. He gave a good talk, not about the Army but about Character. That planted the seed.

Fast forward to the fall of 1982...the Army ROTC guys had uniforms that looked pretty much just like the Regular Army.

When the Marine Recruiter came around that was it. Those Dress Blues said something to me. "This is different, this is a challenge. Everyone's Uncle and Grandpa wore Army Green. Not everone can wear these Dress Blues!"

:marine:

[WillManning]

This happened earlier this year while I was working for Waffle House.

Around 0100, a large group of Army recruiters enter and sit down. I was watching these drunks, to be sure that no one got out of line. One got up and went to he juke box and on his way back, stopped, looked at me and asked, "Is this what what you dreamed of doing for the rest of your life?" My reply was, "I already live my dream". He asked "And, what was that?". I looked him straight in the eye and said "I joined the Marine Corps." He sat down and didn't say two words to me for the rest of his stay.

[Wyoming]

WillManning - that was EXCELLENT, simply EXCELLENT!!!

[danjate]

you should have asked him the same question

[criggleman]

Very nice Sparrow Hawk, I laughed my A** off.

[marinemom]

My son - tigger - did Army JROTC at our lolocal high school - got to the number 2 slot in the command roster - did the drill team and all the "good" stuff.

First Sgt. comes to him at graduation with the Army recruiter - gives him the whole spiel about "An Army of One". Chris tells him it is noce to meet him, but he has to go - doesn't want to be late for his appointment with the Marine Corps recruiter.

The camera got the best shot..........if i find it, I'll try to post it.

[danjate]

I sure would like to see that [b]ONE[b/]!

[TRLewis]

The best Marine Recruiting slogan in my opinion is: "Were looking for a few good men"

And Marine commercials stay on for years after shooting just one. They still give me a tingle, watching that sword come up to salute, if I wasnt so mean it might even bring a tear to my eye.

I never understood why they changed the Army's slogan to an Army of One. What are you going to do with 2 million people all wearing their own army's uniform?

[yellowwing]

I remember hearing an Army commercial in High School, about 1982. I think they were trying to communicate how new and high tech the Army was.

"The new Apache has Digital read outs!"

I was thinking, "Big deal, my alarm clock has digital read out!"

[smoking878]

i have a quote for you marine boys

the stupid, the ignorant, the marines

[Timber]

Improvise, adapt, over come!!

Doesn't sound stupid or ignorant to me.

Semper Fi

[smoking878]

now can you dig that, sucka

[smoking878]

don't mean to be rude or anything, but when you talk about another branch of service thats in the middle east right now and losing just as many people as the marine corps, and probably alot more than the marines are losing, somebody has to stand up for the army and say something

[Nagalfar]

Has anyone of you noticed the "Army of One" commercial, the one that shows a guy running, then the picture pulls back, you see the same guy still running, BUT!, the Armor in the back ground is going the OTHER WAY? I must admit the first thing I was thinking, in a "Army of One" you can watch your fire team members become deserters? because you fire teams members own little "Army's of One" decided it was time to sound retreat? The funny thing about this, one of my sons AGE 13 was the first in my house to notice, he asked, Dad, why is he running the other way, when the tanks are going the other? .. Kids you gotta love them.

[Namvet67]

Hey smoking 878....be careful with your remarks. This is a Marine Corps site and we do not take kindly to negative remarks about Marines. We all know the Army is overthere and what they are doing but they are not Marines. I take it you were a Army of One officer? Or are you just trying to still things up a bit? If so, you may get your wish.

[Timber]

I don't think anyone here is bashing the other branches of service. just sounds dumb and a waste of money. Who ever heard of an "Army of One".

[yellowwing]

We have different Traditions and marketing. Poking fun at the "Army of One" advertising campaign is not belittling the soldiers that are doing their job.

Settle down 878, remember you are a guest here, and you haven't earned anything as of yet.

If you got something positive about the ads let's hear it. Other wise be careful what you open up.

[Namvet67]

smoking878...I read your profile. Not much there...probably a good idea not to give out your 10-20...I didn't appreciate your negative comments about the Marines. Tell us more.. I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

[TRLewis]

Smoking878, were just having a little fun. Were just comparing the different marketing strategies. There are a few us on this site who have crossed over to the Army side, and some who have crossed over from other branches. Same team concept brother, we could argue which branch has the better (*insert job here*) all day.

[Osotogary]

Smoking878,
Please note that no one has referred to you as ignorant, stupid or as a "sucka". Maybe that's the difference.

[Namvet67]

Smoking878...I hope we didn't run you off.

[DSchmitke]

Smoking878 you are pretty thin skinned. This is how we Marines are all the time. Remember our title is earned not given to us.

[GunnyL]

You notice Smoking878 was only able to come in and make some stupid little punk a-- comments and then Run! He's obviously an Army of One! OCS? If he's a Lt. in the Army, you would expect such remarks from an immature little kid.
I was on Recruiting Duty when the Army of One slogan came out and even the Army Recruiters were saying "What the f--- is an Army of One?" and were rather embarassed by it. It was great Ammunition to Raz them with.
Nobody on this site is taking anything away from the soldiers who are over in Iraq putting their lives on the line. In fact, if you'll dig, we regularly put up posts of Soldiers and how the Army of One is sticking it straight up their a--es when they get back here and are getting out with debilitating injuries.
We just like to point out that the Army is not the Marine Corps. Inter-Service Rivalries have been around since the beginning of time. My Dad is Retired Air Force and like I told him "Not everyone has what it takes to be a Marine, but I'm proud of your service to your Country!" LOL
You shouldn't have such thin skin Smoking878 but then again, it might get you a couple of John Kerry Purple Hearts if you bleed that easily!

GunnyL

[Namvet67]

That was great GunnyL....LOL and I agree, we are not taking anything away from the army. Semper Fi.............I got your pm yellowwing...I think we are all on the same page here.

[hrscowboy]

Smoking 878 you said it all right there The Army of One is losing a hell of lot more men than the Marine Corps and do you Know why ?? because your Army dont have the leadership or the brains the Marine Corps has....

[Namvet67]

hrscowboy...you trying to get smoking 878 out in the open and come out of hiding? He's probably busy updating his profile. LOL

[Sgt Morales, AM]

Geez 878...you must be out of your mind referring to the USMC as stupid or ignorant. OCS? It's probably more like a high school ROTC cadet/student who needed the extra credits to graduate from High School! Grown ups, especially Marines don't refer to other people as "sucka"...

Furthermore, you have proven the "Army of One" theory. You are all lone on this one buddy! I don't see anyone else backing you up.

Helloooooo Smoking878...WHERE ARE YOU????


SEMPER FI MARINES!!!!

[hrscowboy]

yeah you got to flush them like you do quail and kill them all...

[Sgt Morales, AM]

LOL

[yellowwing]

ROTC cadet/student
That was very astute! I knew there was something bugging me about his language conflicting with his "OCS" profile.

You must need a good ASVAB for avionics! ;)

[Sgt Morales, AM]

Not to brag but, my ASVAB was above average. I am sure yours was up there also...considering you used the word ASTUTE. lol

[Toby M]

878, what are you 14? Get a life pal...Are you so thin skinned that you can't understand when someone is joking around? No one is knocking any fighting man/woman. We as Marines have a tendency to poke fun at anyone, ( especially ourselves) and those of us that have been in a war zone know only too well the seriousness of battle and the the effort made by all parties. Army, Navy, Air Force but especially Marines have all given their all...we are partial to our Marine Corps simply because we are the best at what we do! Read a little history my friend and see why we are called up first...

[enviro]

Profile says he's 20 - attitude says he's 12.

But back to the discussion, the Army of One slogan is false advertising. They want to capitalize on individualism while making everyone dress the same, talk the same, and beat up islamic prisoners the same. Cool - we have teamwork, but individuals take credit.

They promote selfishness and practice something different.

The debut ad: We open with shots of the desert and the sound of a guy panting. Ah, there he is: dashing through the Mojave, under the weight of a large pack. "I am an Army of one," runs the voiceover. "Even though there are 1,045,690 soldiers just like me, I am my own force. With technology, with training, with support, who I am has become better than who I was." A military vehicle, other soldiers, and a helicopter pass by as the camera angles shift. "And I'll be the first to tell you, the might of the U.S. Army doesn't lie in numbers. It lies in me. Corporal Richard Lovett. I am an army of one. And you can see my strength." From a close-up of our strapping soldier we cut to the newly redesigned Army logo and then to the words "Discover Your Strength," against a black background.

[grayshade]

Yeah, if I was an army of one I'd be dead now. Gotta have a team, someone's gotta watch your back. 'Cause if it's not a buddy, it's the enemy, for damn sure.

[yellowwing]

It's like that interview I saw with with an old Navajo Code Talker after that Nicholas Cage/Adam Beach movie came out.

They asked him, "Were you aware if there was really a Marine assigned to kill you to protect the code?"

He replied, "No, but I was aware 30,000 Imperial Japanese were assigned to kill me!"

[Timber]

I don't think 878 wants to play anymore.

Can't run with the big Devil Dogs, stay on the porch.

[greensideout]

Originally posted by yellowwing
It's like that interview I saw with with an old Navajo Code Talker after that Nicholas Cage/Adam Beach movie came out.

They asked him, "Were you aware if there was really a Marine assigned to kill you to protect the code?"

He replied, "No, but I was aware 30,000 Imperial Japanese were assigned to kill me!"

WHAT A GREAT REPLY!!!

[Patdaly]

Shut-up! What the hell web sight do you think you are at?

[garryh123]

?!

[woodman]

878 will be a natural for an army of one....the same army who court martials it's soldiers for following orders to Humiliate prisoners who cheer at the site of the twin towers falling and takes absalutely no action against an entire unit who commits mutiny because THEY determined the risks were un-necessary

[TRLewis]

Thats why you join an all volunteer unit, leg units are the ones causing those problems, goto the Rangers, or SF and see how much they complain about being deployed, or what missions they do.

[Namvet67]

Patdaly...who were you directing that post at?

[MillRatUSMC]

Isn't America a great country? Even Smoking878 can come on a Marine site a cal us names.
As some Marines said a long time ago;
"Its my dog, I can kick my dog, but I'll kick any body Alpha Serria Serria, who tries to kick my dog!"
We all know that we were comparing the recruiting slogans.
Just like we compare boot camp against basic of all the other services.
As we used to say in Vietnam; "It don't meant NOTHING!"
It was all in jest or a bit for humor.
Are we denigrating another service?
Would we make fun of the dead?
I don't believe we would.
The Army pokes fun at us, so we return the favor.
Its all just in jest.
I for one would never poke fun at the Army, because all my uncles served in the Army during World War II and one also served in Korea during the 50's.
Yes, Smoking878 has a thin skin, so we suggest that he does not run with the Big Devil Dogs, he might get mauled.

Semper Fidelis/Semper Fi
Ricardo

[Namvet67]

See what you started smoking878? "Mess with one Marine and you mess with them ALL"......you even got a female Marine after you. Gary

[Nagalfar]

Gentleman Gentleman, we should be thanking 878, he is giving us a fine example of how a "Army of One" really works, and it would seem their mouths also work the same way as their "Army of One", fire one shot, and run like hell..

[USMCrow]

"fire on shot, and run like hell"...hmmmmm, with their berets and attitude, it sure reminds me of the French.

[TRLewis]

Let us not take away from the FFL, I have ubber respect for those men, and within the past few weeks the Marines dedicated a wall to them.

[Sgt Morales, AM]

Patdaly...
Are you not aware of the fact that this "so-called" OCS soldier called us Marines Stupid, ignorant, and "suckas? What ever sucka means?
You as a Marines should know that we like to make fun of the other branches. I guess it's the devil dog in us!
There is no need to tell anyone to "shut-up". All Opinions are welcome...as long as they are not derogatory or negative.

[USMCrow]

TRLewis
your right, I did forget the FFL. They're a mean bunch of SOB's. I was thinking more about the French "Army" in 1940.

[TRLewis]

I love the FFL, I was considering going to serve them. Toughest men I ever met, I like the thought of it too, leaving everything you know for 5 years.

[hrscowboy]

Oh please give me a break here there aint no tough guys in the army these are the men that couldnt be the best there is THE FEW THE PROUD THE MARINES.. The rangers cant hold a candle to a Marine recon unit.. And there green berets are nothing but a bunch of cry babys i seen that first hand in Vietnam....

[USMCrow]

saw a documentary on 'em last month or so. hard corps m.f.'s. Could be fun to disappear for a few years and get back into the chaos.

[TRLewis]

Originally posted by hrscowboy
Oh please give me a break here there aint no tough guys in the army these are the men that couldnt be the best there is THE FEW THE PROUD THE MARINES.. The rangers cant hold a candle to a Marine recon unit.. And there green berets are nothing but a bunch of cry babys i seen that first hand in Vietnam....

Yeah ok, not like the Rangers can be deployed in 18 hours. Until recently Recon was not apart of JSOC, without that missions were going to other branches. The Rangers are the spearhead light infantry of the Army.

I do belive you have your head up your ass. If you cannot see that Marines, Rangers, and Special Forces have different missions.

I took a second to notice this:

Birthday December 31, 1969
Years of service in the Marine Corps? 1969-1973

Something isn't right. I highly doubt you saw Nam as an infant. Even worse any Vietnam Vet talking badly about another Vietnam Vet.

I also take it personally offensive that you talk about these units when I plan to be both a Ranger and in Special Forces before I retire.

[GunnyL]

TRLewis,
Look at your own profile and look at the Birthdate! Mine says December 31, 1969 and I've been retired from the Corps for 3 Years! There's a coding error on the site and the way the Birth Dates are displayed.

I think you owe somebody an apology for questioning their integrity!

GunnyL

[TRLewis]

No way Gunny. I refuse to apologize to anyone who speaks so rudely of other vets, especially because they were in another branch of service.

[hrscowboy]

TRlewis let me remind you who your speaking too LANCE CORPORAL that says alot indeed when you claim a 4 year tour in the United States Marine Corps it also tells me more when you couldnt stay in My Marine Corps to fufull your dream as you write in your posts. In this Site like it or not We follow guidelines and the guidelines are you respect the rank in which you seem to not want to comply with that and that too tells me alot. Anytime you want to match DD-214s I would be glad to throw mine right in your face. I have seen what these Army wannabes have done in the real face to face combat. I warn you that the next time you are disrespectful to any NCO on this website i will ask for your name and rank banned from this site...

[thedrifter]

Play nice boys ;)


Ellie

[Toby M]

Lewis and Cowboy, now you done it...you made the boss mad! Elie is going to send you guys to bed without your favorite "Chesty" bear...Oh yeah, and no cookies either!!!

[yellowwing]

"I refuse to apologize to anyone who speaks so rudely of other vets"- that's a totatally separate matter.

Questioning the Gunnery Sergeant's Service and date of birth is way over the line.

That is where the apology is due on your part, L/Cpl TRLewis!

[grayshade]

Wow, the chatter seems a bit spirited in here, what I miss? Who's a what and what's a whom? Hey, four year Lance, an apology is expected out o' you. Hey Cowboy, cool them wheels, some stuff you just gotta let go, now let it go. We be all brothers here, now kiss and make up, before this train leaves you behind. :p

[greensideout]

Originally posted by Toby M
Lewis and Cowboy, now you done it...you made the boss mad! Elie is going to send you guys to bed without your favorite "Chesty" bear...Oh yeah, and no cookies either!!!

You left out a "good night kiss". LMAO

[OLE SARG]

Let common sense prevail - it's very evident there is an coding error in the birthday and years of service in the Marine Corps part of the Profile.

If you can't say anything nice to each other don't say anything at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's an order directly from Ellie!!

Play nice.

SEMPER FI
OLE SARG

[hrscowboy]

Old sarge the problem is this Young Marine doesnt like to hear the truth about The Army Of One and i let him know what i had seen during my tour of The United States Marine Corps. I also told this young man that i would be more than glad to stick my DD214 right in his face. I have never disrespected anyone in leatherneck.com of rank higher than mine and i wont do it either i still believe in the chain of command. But i will be damned if someone comes in this site and starts talkin about how bad the army of one is when they have never ever been in combat with them...

[yellowwing]

True Fact:
"Genral Adid", Mogadishu Somilia, did not start his antics until after the USMC contigentcy force had departed.

[TRLewis]

Hmm something nice ok, this corporal hasnt been to combat in "30 years", what does he know about the military today? And anyone who pulls rank on a board really has some issues. Now what are you going to say after I enlist in Feb, by summer I'll be in a Ranger batt. What are you going to say then? You lack respect for your fellow soldiers, airmen, and sailors. Hell you lack respect for your fellow Marines too, you have to pull rank to make your point clear?

As for the "Truth" on the Army of One I believe I would know it a little better than you would. I just discussed the matter with my father, (1968-1988, US Army, CWO3) and he has a whole different account of bloody '68 than you do.

[GunnyL]

True Fact: <br />
When we were on final approach to Mogadishu Somalia, my Officers, NCO's and I had already loaded all of the magazines for our Marines and were passing them out to those Devil Dogs. They...

[Ed Palmer]

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so all of you so-called Army- U.S.Marines- Navy Air Force and Girl Scouts or what ever you proclaim Quit bitxhing between yourselves
and go to the URL site iI have posted here , And when you come back
tell me ifyou can tell if its your army of one or your Marine Corps or your gilrscouts group.
Thank you SSGTPALMER
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[hrscowboy]

Well Lance Corporal TRLewis all i can say is i wish you well with your endeavors with the Army of One. And when it comes down to the heat of the battle and you see your leadership become a total clusterF**K I want you to dig deep down in your gut and remember a Marine told you so...

[yellowwing]

Hey Lewis, you made the decision to get back into the fight. God speed to ya'!

[TRLewis]

I got a friend who is in the Rangers, we left the same day myself to the Marines, him to the Army. He's been a Ranger ever since, loves the hell out of it. I told him when I got out I would come join him. He just reenlisted for 6 years.

I've visited his unit, and they are motivated. I was very impressed with them, and how they operated. Not to mention they had alot of cool toys. No armor humvees, but they got some great body armor. :)

[Ed Palmer]

http://www.clermontyellow.accountsupport.com/flash/UntilThen.swf
TRY THIS ONE

[DSchmitke]

Looks like a Band of Brother all fighting for the same thing to end terror.

[Ed Palmer]

Glad to some of us can still read between the lines especialy between the Army brown and the Marine green

[gwladgarwr]

What would you say in the following situation when your service is insulted ?(I've brought this kind of situation up before, but it was a different instance - and again, in an American Legion hall):

"Gunny" (a real, retired one...I think...), a real creep and s**t-stirrer, is at the bar yakking with "Larry", our Post's 3rd-year trustee on the Executive Committee and old Marine (again, not sure on THAT about him, either; I'm the Post 2nd Vice Commander, btw...not that it matters). I go up to get a beer, and ole' Larry turns around and starts staring at me. Unbeknownst to me at the time, after I said hello to "Gunny", he turns around and starts whispering into Larry's ear saying really mean stuff about me (still don't know why). Well, Larry sees me and really lights into me. He starts sticking his hand all up in my grill and yells something about "yeah, he walks all around in here with that HAIRCUT and his uniform saying how he's a Marine and Iraq blah blah blah...my DAUGHTER'S been in more combat than HE has blah blah." Well, I know he's an old man and all, but I had this great urge to put his head through the brass rail at waitstaff's station. Of course, I couldn't since we had guests that night in from a Legion on Long Island, so I had to play nice. But they couldn't help but overhear.

He starts to walk away, but I call him back, saying that he obviously had something important to say to my face since he had his hand all up in it, so he came back up to me and told him quietly that if he ever said s**t about me, especially like that in public and in front of other Legionnaires, that I would f*** him up. I dismissed him with a curt "F*** you, Larry."

I really doubt that his daughter had ever been in combat, being that she's a female, but I had never even spoken to the man before, even after the Post officer election. He was drunk that night, but not too drunk to stagger his bitter a*** to the head after he mouthed off to me. In so many words, he was saying I walk around 'bragging' about being a Marine and thinking I'm hot s*** and all that.

Am I being too thin-skinned, or is he just a bitter, jealous, no-more-glory-days-for-me-boo-hoo hater?

A previous post I put up months ago about another guy (an S.A.L, for you Legionnaires) who essentially insulted my service that I'm still actually doing is again causing trouble. I won't go into details, but one night a few weeks ago, this S.A.L. decides he wants to "mean-mug" me and call me and the Post commander sitting next to me "a couple of queers". Hmm, let's see, a Vietnam draft dodger who calls a Vietnam vet and a Legion Post commander and the young Marine/Post 2nd Vice Commander "fags" just didn't make me feel all that good about myself, but maybe I'm just sensitive. This guy was involved in a little situation with the aforementioned "Gunny" who spit in the eye of the Post commander. Well, this draft dodger and the crazy "Gunny" think they were going to stand there and "mean-mug" me and the commander and be called "queers" (this SAL guy really likes to talk about "queers" a lot - I'm beginning to wonder. If he's that way, cheers to him - I can't be expected to feel miserable just because he can't handle his gayness.)

Maybe it's just the Legion post I'm at or something; what's with all the haters?

[Osotogary]

I'm certainly no expert but I'd have to say you are not the problem. Those abrasive gents are dealing with their personal inadequecies that go way, way back in time. That is their problem but since they are bringing them up to you maybe there needs to be a re-reading of the conditions of membership. I am sure that there are guidelines, albeit, maybe minimal, as to the behavior of one member to another. Bring it up calmly, out of arms range, maybe have some witnesses that like you around you and see what happens. Be prepared to know your Legions Code of Conduct.
I'm trying to be suggest a diplomatic resolve but then again I'd have to weigh what is good for you in the long run.
Take it easy. If you ever want a beer without a hassle drop by the house here in South Florida. Give me a weeks notice so I can stock up somewhat.
Adios.
Gary

[USMCrow]

Inter-service rivalries aren't going to go away. Most times, folks are just talking sh*t to each other and giving them a bad time about their choice of service (happens here at work on a daily basis). Bottom line, if you joined the military, my hat's off to you since most people know that you may have to put your butt on the line at some point in your tour. Most of these folks are good people whether their wearing green, blue, brown or orange. Then you have those, like the gent who started this debate and the ones mentioned above, who have no respect for others let alone themselves. Guess they don't remember that we all bleed red. Personally, guys that them seem to become more ****ed off if you don't retaliate in kind. Blow 'em off and see what happens. There's nothing like a soft spoken word about their inferiority to make their faces red. As a Marine, there will always be an inordinate amount of pride in my service. There is no one who can take that from me. Which is why I try to place "nice" with the others since they will never have what we have.

[cosmo398]

An army of one? what the hell? since when the hell did the army have thier soldiers go solo?

[GunnyL]

I am the only Marine in my family with mostly Air Force, Navy and Army in the Mix. We Raz the hell out of each other all the time and nobody takes offense like some of the thin skins on this post. We have fun with the inter-service rivalry stuff because we all know that in the end and when it really counts, we all fight for the same team!
I was at a pizza joint here in Austin today mixing it up with an Army Ranger. We tossed some jabs back and forth in good fun and shook hands and wished each other a Merry Christmas on the way out. Inter-Service Rivalry will never go away, people from different branches will always chide each other. If there weren't inter-service rivalries, I'd think that nobody had pride in their respective services. It's Pride in ones own service that keeps these things going and that's a good thing. Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and MARINES should all be proud of who they are and the service they are a part of. We just happen to be a little more proud than most!

GunnyL

[USMCrow]

well said, GunnyL

[Ed Palmer]

You know I dont understand whats going on here ,
I would like for all of you U.S.M.C. want to be,s to read the name on the top of this page. No where do I see army all I can see is LEATHERNECK Thats a long word for MARINES . if you are not a part of the program then you are a part of the problem .
I do not enjoy coming here to listen to a bunch of children bickering back and forth with my service is better than yours.
Gxddaxxint if you aint a MARINE it is quite evedent you dont know what it is that you re talking about.So go back to your mama and cry to her she might auctualy understand your problem and help you out with it.


So if you are a army of 1 or two do what good doggies do put your tail between you legs , go home and lick yourself.

[TRLewis]

Let us make this point, and turn this thread around from here on out with a joke.

What does a blonde do in the morning?











Go Home. :)

[danjate]

Well, here it goes from the guy that started this thread in the first place. First off I think that who ever thinks that this is about putting down other MEMBERS of the military if GREATLY mistaken and should read the first post again! My brother was in the Army infantry, and to this day he still tryies to say that the army was better then the Marine Corps(which he is flat out wrong), but that thats all in the fun of it. I respect him very much for joining the military, and for the MOST part all these MARINES do also. But, you to come here being a Marine and disrespect any Marine for that part is plain out UNBECOMING. Now you can go join the Army, Navy, Airforce, even the Coast Gaurd and nobody will disrespect you for that, just don't disrespect any Vetern or active duty member of ANY branch of service! We all get enough of it from all the peace keeping protesters. No matter what service your in we are all a Band Of Brothers when it comes down to it. So don't be so thin skinned and jump to crazy conclusions.

[enviro]

Well, like it or not, I have a general dislike for the Army as an organization. I have been in "today's combat" and could tell you a few things about your beloved Army of One.

It's not the individuals - it's the organization. It comes from the top down - it's they way they are bred and trained.

It's the fact that someone can say they'll be in a Ranger Bn in a few months while no one can say they'll be in Recon until they make Recon. Probably a contract guarantee.....

I can't even say that no one doubts their patriotism - we Marines had to restrain ourselves really hard while listening to most of them griping about having to go to combat. Don't believe me? Look at the news - it's the soldiers who are bringing a lawsuit against their own service because they don't want to go back to combat.

Hey - I know we have our own little dirtbags, but when they act out, it's shocking to everyone - when a soldier decides to screw it up, no one is suprised.

The worst thing you could ever possibly say about another member of the military is "I wouldn't want to go to combat with you" - When you ever have the retched feeling in your gut that the guys on the other side of the road are going to get you killed, you'll know what I am talking about. When, as a Sergeant, an NCO, you can't say anything about it because their "Rangers, hooah" you'll know what I'm talking about.

The Army of One gets no special respect out of this Marine.

[greensideout]

Originally posted by gwladgarwr
What would you say in the following situation when your service is insulted ?(I've brought this kind of situation up before, but it was a different instance - and again, in an American Legion hall):

"Gunny" (a real, retired one...I think...), a real creep and s**t-stirrer, is at the bar yakking with "Larry", our Post's 3rd-year trustee on the Executive Committee and old Marine (again, not sure on THAT about him, either; I'm the Post 2nd Vice Commander, btw...not that it matters). I go up to get a beer, and ole' Larry turns around and starts staring at me. Unbeknownst to me at the time, after I said hello to "Gunny", he turns around and starts whispering into Larry's ear saying really mean stuff about me (still don't know why). Well, Larry sees me and really lights into me. He starts sticking his hand all up in my grill and yells something about "yeah, he walks all around in here with that HAIRCUT and his uniform saying how he's a Marine and Iraq blah blah blah...my DAUGHTER'S been in more combat than HE has blah blah." Well, I know he's an old man and all, but I had this great urge to put his head through the brass rail at waitstaff's station. Of course, I couldn't since we had guests that night in from a Legion on Long Island, so I had to play nice. But they couldn't help but overhear.

He starts to walk away, but I call him back, saying that he obviously had something important to say to my face since he had his hand all up in it, so he came back up to me and told him quietly that if he ever said s**t about me, especially like that in public and in front of other Legionnaires, that I would f*** him up. I dismissed him with a curt "F*** you, Larry."

I really doubt that his daughter had ever been in combat, being that she's a female, but I had never even spoken to the man before, even after the Post officer election. He was drunk that night, but not too drunk to stagger his bitter a*** to the head after he mouthed off to me. In so many words, he was saying I walk around 'bragging' about being a Marine and thinking I'm hot s*** and all that.

Am I being too thin-skinned, or is he just a bitter, jealous, no-more-glory-days-for-me-boo-hoo hater?

A previous post I put up months ago about another guy (an S.A.L, for you Legionnaires) who essentially insulted my service that I'm still actually doing is again causing trouble. I won't go into details, but one night a few weeks ago, this S.A.L. decides he wants to "mean-mug" me and call me and the Post commander sitting next to me "a couple of queers". Hmm, let's see, a Vietnam draft dodger who calls a Vietnam vet and a Legion Post commander and the young Marine/Post 2nd Vice Commander "fags" just didn't make me feel all that good about myself, but maybe I'm just sensitive. This guy was involved in a little situation with the aforementioned "Gunny" who spit in the eye of the Post commander. Well, this draft dodger and the crazy "Gunny" think they were going to stand there and "mean-mug" me and the commander and be called "queers" (this SAL guy really likes to talk about "queers" a lot - I'm beginning to wonder. If he's that way, cheers to him - I can't be expected to feel miserable just because he can't handle his gayness.)

Maybe it's just the Legion post I'm at or something; what's with all the haters?


Wow, I have worked on it. Read your post several times but I still don't know the point that you are trying to make?

Is it about disrespect? You or the Gunny?

Is it about "queers"? You or the Gunny?

Is it about a bad Legion Post? Have you tried the VFW?

I know that there is a point to what you have said but I haven't figured it out yet. Want to help?

[danjate]

enviro,

can't agree more. did you here about that one that had his friend shoot him in the leg just so wouldn't go back to iraq

[Sgted]

Originally posted by danjate
Well, here it goes from the guy that started this thread in the first place. First off I think that who ever thinks that this is about putting down other MEMBERS of the military if GREATLY mistaken and should read the first post again! My brother was in the Army infantry, and to this day he still tryies to say that the army was better then the Marine Corps(which he is flat out wrong), but that thats all in the fun of it. I respect him very much for joining the military, and for the MOST part all these MARINES do also. But, you to come here being a Marine and disrespect any Marine for that part is plain out UNBECOMING. Now you can go join the Army, Navy, Airforce, even the Coast Gaurd and nobody will disrespect you for that, just don't disrespect any Vetern or active duty member of ANY branch of service! We all get enough of it from all the peace keeping protesters. No matter what service your in we are all a Band Of Brothers when it comes down to it. So don't be so thin skinned and jump to crazy conclusions.

danjate......the subject for the thread was a good one.
I personally do not like the "Army of One" slogan.
Marine pride and the elite-ness that goes along with the title "Marine" is impossiple for members of other branches of the military to understand.
It is something only we Marines can comprehend.
Having never been in the Army, I cannot say how much pride I might have after having served.
I have a nephew in the Navy right now who is bursting at the seams with pride.

I am fast approaching 60 years of age.
I belong to several Veteran organizations including the DAV, USMC Motor Transport Association, The VVA and American Legion.
Those organizations that are not Marine Corp specific have a good membership of Veterans who get along just fine. Oh, we poke fun at each-other, but in the long run we are truely a "Band of Brothers" who all fought for a common goal.
Of course, the Marines did it better, but that does not change the fact that all my Brothers blood ran red.
I have a great respect for my Marine Corps Brothers and equal respect for those that choose any uniform for the greater good of God, freedom and the USA.

[TRLewis]

Originally posted by enviro

It's the fact that someone can say they'll be in a Ranger Bn in a few months while no one can say they'll be in Recon until they make Recon. Probably a contract guarantee.....


Again, people are not paying attention, or do not feel the urge to use Google to their advantage. I have the chance to try out for a Ranger batt, and since I am going to take this personal are you saying that I cannot do it? When I enlisted they even had a Force Recon Marine enlistment option. Same chance to try out as a Ranger batt. I think you should Google the Ranger RIP program.

I have no respect, Marine or not, one who does not respect other branches. Interservice rivalry is one thing, but to flat out say you give no respect, HA. Attitudes like that are why there is a riff between Marines and other branches of service. I respect all members of the military regardless of service, minus all those whiny kids who signed up for the college money; even those Navy rejects, the Coast Guard. J/K coasties, I love you guys.

The thing that amazes me is, anyone who disapproves of other branches is always the first bring up recon. Yeah thats good and all, but who cares. I didn't want to be a Recon Marine, I wanted to be in an Airborne light infantry unit. And then move on when I've gotten a little older and better in my langauge skills onto teaching guerilla warefare. I don't think recon covers that stuff.

So, to all the people that claim the Marine Recon is the best, why is it they don't cover all those missions in the above? I haven't been to Recon school, but I do know what their mission is, and its not an airborne light infantry unit, although it can be used as that, its not their mission and when you add an element to someones mission that has not been prepared for you're asking for casualties. I have no doubt Marines can accomplish whatever task required of them, but it might produce more casualties.

[Sparrowhawk]

You have no idea what a Marine Recon is, so don't compare them to an Army ranger unit.

All the ranger, green berets and army units I came in contact with in Nam were shi t birds that we often had to pull out of the hell hole they got themselves into, because of stupidity.


If you want to join an Airborne light infantry unit. Go do it but because a Marine Recon does not offer what you think is better then don't compare the two.

It’s not what you know in combat, it’s what you do with that knowledge.

I can tell from your posts that you would never make it in a Marine Recon unit, I was not Recon, but served with them and two-three times my company was Bald Eagled or we were Sparrowhawked in to get them out of where they were fighting off an superior size enemy force.

One thing you can tell about how effective a unit is in real combat is how your enemy sees you. They feared and greatly respected the Marine Recon unit in Vietnam as the enemy does the same today in Iraq.

Goggle that and see if you can find the Iraqi insurgents having the same respect for the Army ranger units serving there.

Go be an Army Ranger if that is your dream, but don't compare the two and hope that we agree with you when you haven't served in neither.


I never understood why one having served in the Corps would ever join another branch of the service, unless they got out then couldn't get back into the Corps because of medical, age or other Marine Corps regulation.

[Toby M]

TRLewis, I have to agree with Sparrowhawk! I never served in a recon unit either but I think most people agree that their reputation is second to none and to state that any other unit of the military offers better training (without having actually had that experience ) is like pi**ing in the wind!! In other words, you may want to consider the folly of arguing something you know nothing about...

[hrscowboy]

I do believe that Lance Corporal lewis has seen his buddy doing very well in the Rangers and i do believe that lance Corporal lewis wants to be with his friend. But has lance Corporal lewis actually seen his buddys ranger unit in Combat?? Or even heard about his friends ranger unit being in Combat.. It is my concern that Lance Corpral lewis,s Father being CWO-3 isnt breaking this army thing right off in lance Corporal lewis butt unless his father is army. but i would like lance Corporal lewis to ask his father about operation lump sahn when 113 blackcat army hueys took off from marble mountain air facility and went in to cambodia and in 2 days all where lost except for 2 hueys. Its not the men Lance Corporal lewis its the leadership, everytime the army of one has been sent into a misson there leadership has failed now i am talking about Nam and as i have grown older i have seen again the same leadership failing. as i said i wish you well in your endeavors and you might very well become an outstanding ranger but when the heat gets turned on and your in combat watch your leadership fail it happens everytime but then again you might survive because you where a marine first and your senses will revert to adapt, improvise, and over come...

[TRLewis]

Awwwww hrscowboy, i couldnt leave you on my ignore list forever. nor could i be mad at you forever, i am very touched by your words. i do believe i will say i am going to better the army, or at least 4-5 people in the army.

[Osotogary]

TRLewis-
When you get squared away, in terms of a mailing address, would you mind getting some mail? PM. me with your addy and I will be sure to send you a scintillating postcard from South Miami or a just plain "howdy do". Good luck!
Gary

[TRLewis]

I dont think anyone would object to getting mail. Thats 90% of my excitement now a day is getting mail. I don't do anything to jeopardize my chances of getting in. I don't want a date in traffic court to push my ship date by a month or two.

[Namvet67]

You sure did amoking 878. We thought you were MIA. I am glad to see you are sorry about your comments so I'll accept that as an apology. We didn't think you were running...just hiding out until the smoke cleared.

[Namvet67]

It looks like I missed all the action with the comments of TRLewis so I went back and read all of the posts. My opinion...TR I think you have a problem with NCO Marines and now that you want to go in the army...you may have a problem with the Corps in general. In your 4 years in the Corps, how come you didn't at least make Corporal? I am impressed that you want to go back in and serve your country....but I believe you have a atttitude problem and I'm not sure I would want you on my fire team. gbudd S/SGT USMC 66-72....oh yeah my birthday shows as 1969 too.

[TRLewis]

We are from two completely different times. I have no problem with NCO's, if you paid attention you would have read that my problem was with a persons point of view. And who are you to ask why I...

[Namvet67]

No TRLewis, I don't want to get you started again. You are a Marine, I am a Marine so let's act like the professionals we are. I'm ok if you're ok. I think we have about worn out this post anyway. Carry on Marine.

[katsup]

There is nothing wrong with the Army . They are over there also so I can't knock them . It just takes so many of them to do the same job . It's probably a training thing though , Those that I met were fine people .

[cwmak]

Man, I can't believe a Marine is trying so hard to join the Rangers Bn. Why in the first place did you choose the MARINES? No offense dude. Yea, I'm just a civvie. Call me a wannabe, whatever... If I ever get to join the Corps, that's my dream come true! Nothing in this world would have make me proud than to join the MARINE CORPS. Money can buy you everything but not The Marines Corps. It's not the hi-tech body armor you get nor the hi-tech gadgets that will keep you alive on the battlefield. It's your buddies next to you! And that, You can only find That in the United States Marine Corps!!

And the best thing is, I'm a friggin' foreigner!! If I were you, I'd loose the rank in this post. It embarrass the true spirit of " SEMPER FIDELIS". The Few, The Proud. This is what it's all about.
I may not know anything about the Corps, but I do know one thing... the motto: SEMPER FI!

Oohrah Marine or shall I say, Hooah-you? A Marine? Don't think so! :no:

[hrscowboy]

Gunny i have met quite a few fine men and women that where army and yes there fine people... Its just a shame that those fine people are getting killed or maimed for life because there leadership fails them.

[Ed Palmer]

TO - TRLewis


SAY LETS SEE IF THIS CLOWN IS REALY A MARINE ,
wHATS YOUR 11th GENERAL ORDER PLEASE POST HERE

[hrscowboy]

OPERATION LAM SON
JANUARY 30 TO MARCH 1971



lam Son was 719 was a major operation of the army of the republic of south vietnam, ARVN into laos early in 1971. United states provided all of the aviation assets for this operation. A/101 AVN was one of the aviation units in this operation, along with be the sole 101st airborne aviation unit supporting the special operations group in I Corp, during the month of 02/71.

The objective was to disrupt an ongoing North Vietnamese Army buildup at Tchepone, Laos. American helicopter units supported and provided all transportation of ARVN troops/supplies into and out of laos during this operation. The South Vietnamese government claimed that 13,341 enemy had been killed against 5,000 ARVN KIA/WIA.

American estimates put the ARVN losses at 10,000 which amounted to half of its forces committed to the operation. The losses to US helicopter forces were 65 helicopter crewman KIA and 818 crewmen WIA and 42 crewman MIA. 618 american helicopters shot up, downed and damaged 20% of which were not expected to fly again. 106 helicopters lost outright in the first 4 days all from january 30 to 24 march 1971 . The official end to lam son 719 was 9 april 1971.

Dr. Henry Kissinger speaking on Operation Lam son stated: This operation was conceived in doubt, and assailed by skepticism, and proceeded in confusion....

[femalemarine_89]

man that is a good question.. those army ads have always gotten me. I have a friend in the Army and I tease him all the time.. I tell him the same thing that i have read in here.. that I wonder how you can be an Army of One.. he laughs and says its because they work as a unit and work all together.. I laughed again and told him that Is suppose to be all..

[femalemarine_89]

Oh and since we are talking about what ARMY stands for I thought I would add what AIRFORCE STANDS FOR..
AINT IN REAL FORCES ONLY REPRESENTING CIVILIAN EMPLOYMENT.... ROFLMAO

[hrscowboy]

i would think if anyone done there homework and see that the army has lost quite a few battles why would anyone want to be an army of one...

[Namvet67]

You know Ed Palmer, you may be on to something..TRLewis sure don't sound like a Marine. TR is a little too thin skinned and building up the army the way he is....I don't know???? Now granted I know some Marines that did joint the army but all they talk about is how they miss the Marines and what they stand for. Well TRLewis....Q. ARE YOU A MARINE?

[femalemarine_89]

Well you know what 878 the way that you are talking sounds like you are talking out of your ass. Dont sound to me like you have any military experience at all and what you do know you are finding on the TV.. There are all the branches out there. If you have not learned by now each branch teases the next. I am a Marine and I will always be a Marine. That is one thing that the other branches have never adapted. When they get out they are out and dont give a damn. But when you talk to a Marine you better use respect...

[Toby M]

When I was in 'Nam in 69, my cousin was down south in the Army ( Long Binh I think) and my brother-in-law was in the Navy off the coast...to this day, no one talks about any of their service time (in Viet Nam or otherwise) except for mine...I wonder why that is??? Oh yeah, my son was in the Air Force as well but after 7 years, he hated it and opted to get out instead of making a career out of it. I am the only one that doesn't regret my military time...

[TRLewis]

Originally posted by gbudd
No TRLewis, I don't want to get you started again. You are a Marine, I am a Marine so let's act like the professionals we are. I'm ok if you're ok. I think we have about worn out this post anyway. Carry on Marine.

This was the last thing I saw, and decided to ignore the post until today. Not really sure what to say, except its sad when fellow Marines start asking me boot camp questions of General Orders, which anyone with half a brain can google it, and questioning my status as a Marine. But thats ok, because none of you have come forward to ask for units, schools attended, or anything else. This post is quite an old, and I really don't care about it anymore. Attack me all you want, I wont answer on this post again.

[Namvet67]

Once a Marine ALWAYS A MARINE....Toby, a very tuff question to answer but I think we (Marines) need to talk about it. Maybe it is a way to come back home. The fact that we served as Marines and didn't get any respect from anyone (in those days), has something to do with it. gbudd

[smoking878]

well female marine, for your info i am in the army and i'm proud of it, and an army of one can kick a marine's *** anyday if you ask me.


Transportation moves the Nation
AIRBORNE ALL THE WAY!!!!!

[femalemarine_89]

LOL.. YEAH RIGHT.. YOU KNOW WHAT IF YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION.. SOMEONE LIKE YOU DONT DESERVE TO BE ON THIS SITE.. SOMEONE LIKE YOU DONT DESERVE TO HAVE HIS WORDS READ.. SOMEONE LIKE YOU NEEDS TO GET THE F*** OUT...

[HardJedi]

you have GOT to be joking me 878. a regular 11Bravo is nowhere NEAR as proficient, nor do they have the training of an 0311. and as for Any army of ONE being able to kick a Marines ass? Just ask my Nephew. 22 years old and and Airborn Ranger, and every time he comes home we spar, and I ain't lost to that snot nose YET! :D

[smoking878]

well then have me ****ing banned, ****

[smoking878]

your just talking out of your ****ing ass, *****

[HardJedi]

why do you even want to stir up crap anyway? doesn't the ARMY have a website to celebrate thier fellowship and brotherhood? OH WAIT thats right, they are an ARMY OF ONE! what brotherhood? what fellowship?

[smoking878]

just because the marines brainwashed you, don't mean **** to me

[HardJedi]

who the hell are you talking to anyway with those last few posts? and if you want to respond, please make an INTELLIGENT response.

[Namvet67]

TRLewis and smokin878 need to get together...you both have a lot in common and it ain't Marine. You both managed to irritate both my brothers and my sisters. Try some anger management classes and then go read about the Marine Corps history. gbudd

[thedrifter]

PLAY NICE!!!!!!!!!!!


Ellie

[femalemarine_89]

hard I was the one that that little snot was making the posts to.. In my opinion he dont deserve to be in here...

[Namvet67]

I'm trying my best but some of these posts are bringing out the Marine in me. Something that a couple of posters don't appear to have. gbudd

[femalemarine_89]

I know what you mean gb.. I have been the same way with this one this morning. My husband has been listening to me.. hes like WOW..

[DSchmitke]

The only thing brainwashed is an army of one. Smoking878 I don't think you have the marbles to be one of THE FEW THE PROUD.

[femalemarine_89]

I have to agree with you DS totally and completly..

[TRLewis]

gbudd, i think you're trying to get a reaction out of me. and because i defend another branch from receiving bashing, not good natured teasing, but people saying they have no respect for anyone but Marines, I am grouped with someone who is cursing, and calling people names. I am not a wanna be, and you want to keep referencing that I am not WILL get a reaction out of me. Get the **** over it, i am taking this very personal. Because you cant obviously read, if you could you would have read my post I put up two days ago. And I got ****ing hammered for questioning another Marine on this very post and you decide to do it? **** you Gbudd.

I've said what I needed to.

[femalemarine_89]

DAMN............

[Namvet67]

Oh that hurt TRLewis...I know I'll loose a couple nights sleep over this. So you got****ing hammered for questioning another Marine? It was the way you showed no respect for a Marine that has forgot more than you will ever know...that's why! You asked for my remarks, the other Marine did not. Did you just insult me?

[TRLewis]

So now you play the "I'm older than you so I'm correct" card. Yeah good one, didn't see that coming. I never asked for a thing from you. You gave your opinion, thats cool. But now you question my integrity, who the **** are you to do so? I stood on those yellow foot prints just like everyone else, so who are you to question it? You are not better than me, so maybe you should stop acting like it.

[femalemarine_89]

You know the one thing you learn as a Marine is how to work together.. You also learn how to adapt to a situation.. Its getting to be to if you dont like what is being said you dont have to reply to it.. Just let it go.. I know there is nothing wrong with sticking up for yourself, but this is going on too far..

[hrscowboy]

Enough is Enough its time to hold a captains mast on both these individuals. Again TRLewis you have disrespected and NCO and a Staff NCO this cannot be tolerated. Smoking you sir are a discrace to the United States Army if in fact you are in the service..

[femalemarine_89]

I have to agree with you cowboy.. This t hread has gotten to the point that it never should have.. as for disrespect.. there had been that in here for sure..

[thedrifter]

I see DisRESPECT on All Parties concerned..
We all have a Right to Our Opinions...
We sometimes don't agree, but WE Do Not Bash...

Take it to email....

Ellie

[Osotogary]

I say that it is time for a beer! In a few more hours it will be "Ladies Night". Gents, it is now time to re-focus our energies toward the fair damsels before us. Pull out the Old Spice and the Tuxedo Palmade. Spit shine your shoes, crease your pants and shirts. Fold up all of your one dollar bills to look like you have tons of money and wash your teeth. Yessir, Gents. We have enough to do just getting ready for this evenings festivities. It's time to save our energy for some social intercourse.

[femalemarine_89]

hey my husband wants to know if a roll of quarters count as soundling like you have alot of money..

[Osotogary]

Yep. He will need them for the Juke Box.

[femalemarine_89]

He says he gets a free jukebox.. he thinks hes special :))

[Osotogary]

He must know the proprietor(s) or he knows something. LOL. Either way, it looks like you're set for this evening. He is a lucky man. Enjoy yourselves.

[femalemarine_89]

LOL.. yeah tell me about it.. but anyways I will take a bottle of yeiger for the night :D

[LivinSoFree]

Ain't nothin' like the scent of Aqua Velva to make the ladies swoon... or to take the recruit funk out of the squadbay, but that's beside the point. :marine:

[femalemarine_89]

naw not the aqua velva.. me personally i like hugo ;)

[Osotogary]

LivinSoFree,
Awhile back, during WWII, folks used to take Aqua Velva and strain it through a loaf of bread and then drink it..... or so I've heard.
Everytime someone mentions Aqua Velva I think if the stories that I heard about it being consumed are fact or fiction. Maybe some of the Marines on this site can shed some light to this rumor/truth.

[femalemarine_89]

I dont know about all that os.. but dont sound too good to me...

[DaveDalPezzo]

How did this get into "Looking for a Leatherneck"? Why did the mission of the original post get so twisted that so many post replies had nothing to do with the Army's new(est) motto? Marines stick with the mission, and the mission as I remember the original post was to figure out what "An Army of One" meant, not to raise blood pressure. Also, please double check spelling before posting. A logical reply usually loses the intent when misspellings abound.

[femalemarine_89]

It got changed topics when Ellie come on and told us to behave.. SO one way to do that was for the topic to get changed until the heat was out of the room.. That is why that happened.

[Jarhed]

Originally posted by smoking878
well female marine, for your info i am in the army and i'm proud of it, and an army of one can kick a marine's *** anyday if you ask me.


Transportation moves the Nation
AIRBORNE ALL THE WAY!!!!!

I honestly cannot believe you actually wrote this crap. I cannot tell you how many soldiers I kicked the **** out of for giggles when I was blind drunk. But really, that doesnt prove anything. I just cant believe you would write such crap on this board. I invite you to take a couple of your little army vagina buddies to Jacksonville NC or Oceanside CA and spout that crap off.

Unfrigginbelievable.

[femalemarine_89]

I remember when he wrote that.. Those are the kinds of messages that were also being sent to me thru pm. Just shows the intelligence level that he has Jar. Go figure. They have to brag about something that means nothing. If a soldier could kick a Marines ass I want to see it first hand. I know plenty of soldiers that have said no way in hell they would ever want to tackle with a Marine..

[JAG5150]

See not everybody in the army is ignorant. To make statements like that they have to have some type of intelligence.

[Jarhed]

Yeah, I agree.

My dad (Ranger/Green Beret/82nd Airborne, 20-year Colonel, 2 Vietnam Tours - one as an "advisor" 63-64) even said that the Marine Corps was the "elite" and warned me about joining the Corps in high school saying that "your gonna hump, hump, and hump some more!! You better stay away from those Marines!". Of course, he wanted me to be an Army Officer like he was. I respect his service, but I told him "I need a challenge".

[femalemarine_89]

Its funny because lets see I will always be Marine, my husband is Navy and my father in law was a WO in the army.. LOL.. looks like we have about everything covered in our family. My mother in law is taking pictures from the past of the whole family and making a wall collage of all the military pictures. Funny thing is I am the only female in them :))

[TRLewis]

Yeah but you cant really tell because of your high and tight.

::ducks::

J/K.

Just as a side note, my ship date has moved up to monday.

[Sparrowhawk]

Originally posted by DaveDalPezzo
...
Also, please double check spelling before posting. A logical reply usually loses the intent when misspellings abound.

My keybored, don't spel rite, it don't type what I wants to say, and then mispels what I shouldn't be saying.

We needs a web site that corrects a Marine's mispeling!

:banana:

[TRLewis]

Or make every Marine take a typing class. :)

[JAG5150]

Want to know what an army of one is, I'll tell you it is called a MARINE, hope that clears up things for you.

[femalemarine_89]

I like that one Jag.. OH and by the way TR.. I will get you for that one... lol...

[JAG5150]

Watch out TR, you pi$$ed off the Gunny.

[TRLewis]

HAHA, that just brought back a boot camp memory. Having the Gunny recruiter, oh he is so nice and thoughtful. Then you meet your Gunny DI and the world changes.

[JAG5150]

Once they have you they have you, why do you think the bulldog is our mascot? They lock their jaws and refuse to let go. Run TR, RUN lol.

[TRLewis]

Heh, go see my thread about my ship date, it got moved up. I will be protected by highly trained, motivated, MPs.....errr wait I'm going to Ft Benning. Damn damn damn, might as well roll out the red carpet for her, because we know how quick those Army MPs are. All she has to do is wear her blues and flash a smile and they'll give up their sidearm. ;)

[JAG5150]

When have you ever known a Gunny to smile let alone at an army puke, she'll just intimidate them. Either way you're screwed. lol

[femalemarine_89]

Are yall talkin about me again?? Dont make me make you drop and do push ups till i get tired..

[femalemarine_89]

I think from what I heard he is gone and wont be back.. So that shall be a god sent..