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Facet09
08-02-11, 07:30 AM
Recently swore in to the Marine Corps and just waiting to ship out, but have a major problem that I've got to get through. Although I passed the drug test at MEPS, I kind of slipped up one time... I know that that's unnaceptable and that part of of my life needs to be behind me, and it is, but im still deathly worried about this mistake becoming a problem. Will I be tested as a poolee before going to MEPS for the boot camp checkup?
01USMC0481
08-02-11, 10:49 AM
Not sure about being tested at a boot camp check up. But when i left for boot camp we did get **** tested within the first week; also you get tested day one when you check in to SOI or MCT. My advise pray to the gods that you dont get tested. If you are your career will be over before it started. Show some friggin will power and discipline and don't do drugs. I have seen many a good Marine's career cut short because of drugs. Zero tolerance policy is zero tolerance.
JWJohnsonIII
08-02-11, 11:06 AM
You should easily be able to get a waiver for this.
Facet09
08-02-11, 12:55 PM
Not sure about being tested at a boot camp check up. But when i left for boot camp we did get **** tested within the first week; also you get tested day one when you check in to SOI or MCT. My advise pray to the gods that you dont get tested. If you are your career will be over before it started. Show some friggin will power and discipline and don't do drugs. I have seen many a good Marine's career cut short because of drugs. Zero tolerance policy is zero tolerance.
I was talking more in terms of a poolee getting tested BEFORE the MEPS checkup, like at a poolee meeting. I will be fine by the MEPS check up. Should I be alright?
JWJohnsonIII
08-02-11, 01:43 PM
Facet, your profile says you ship tomorrow. Are you still set to leave then?
Zulu 36
08-02-11, 01:51 PM
I was talking more in terms of a poolee getting tested BEFORE the MEPS checkup, like at a poolee meeting. I will be fine by the MEPS check up. Should I be alright?
I think you should go visit your recruiter, confess your sin, and ask to be removed from DEP as no longer worthy to be a Marine.
Or, if you'd like, I can do that for you.
soon2bMarine10
08-02-11, 02:01 PM
You don't get tested at poolee functions. Although you should be, how hard is it to say to a "friend" nah man I am headed to the Corps no time for that. You will get tested at the MRCD and if you leave tomorrow you will be back home really soon. I'm not claiming to be the best poolee in the world. I have had my issues with Marijuana myself, but since i decided to enlist nothing in my power will stand in the way. You need to adopt like traits poolee.
MOS4429
08-02-11, 03:24 PM
What drug was it and when did you use it?
DIMAS86
08-03-11, 07:40 AM
You're an idiot. I'm not getting in your ass that deep for smoking a joint while in DEP. But who the hell comes on a site like this, makes a post like they did, and has their freagin' recruiters name and contact information all over their profile!?
Swampfox
08-03-11, 07:49 AM
If you've got several months until your ship date you'll be all right as most drugs only stay in your system for around a month MAX. You shouldn't get drug tests at poolee meetings so just stay focused and keep on the straight and narrow and you should be okay. Good luck young man.
MOS4429
08-03-11, 11:22 AM
Well...I guess you're not going to answer my question, Facet09!!!!
If you come on here with a question, sometimes more information is needed to answer, but I understand why you might now be hesitant to do so, too.
Different drugs stay in your system for different amounts of time. The longest is marijuana, which stores in fat and you can pop positive up to 30 days after use.
I was in the Marine Corps when there was no drug testing, and then they started testing for hard drugs like amphetamines, heroin, LSD, and in about 81 or 82 were able to start testing for marijuana.
I knew several Marines that would be considered good Marines but they liked to use drugs recreationally. To do so was just plain stupid. It is like rolling the dice. One of my best NCO's got promoted to Sgt, and one month later popped positive and was busted back. Retarded! When I was in college, one of the Marines who was also in college kept using marijuana, felt he could get away with it, but eventually popped positive. He got a long-haired civilian to testify before the CO during his office hours and lie for him that he put it in brownies. He got off, and that ****ed me off! I reported a court-martial at MCRD, and a D.I. was being tried for popping positive. He was found guilty, busted, and removed from the field. He cried his head off afterwards. Sad, sad case.
Facet09, there is no place for drug useage in your life now that you have taken an oath. If you are not strong enough and succumb to peer pressure, get away from those peers. You may argue they are your friends. Bull! No friend will knowingly offer another person a drug that could destroy their career before they have started.
You say you slipped up! Bull! That is an excuse to not own up to your screw up. When you used that drug, nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to take it, right? You knowingly and volitionally used, and now you are squirming and hoping you do not have to **** in the container and pop positive.
The issue is not do they test at MEPS. The issue is you. If you are so weak that you use before you have shipped, when you finish boot camp, you will succumb to that weakness, use again, and be busted.
Man up and quit. Seek help if you cannot do it yourself. The fact that you could not say no indicates an addiction. You say no, I am not addicted. Then why did you use? You want to know how many times I heard people make the excuse, "I slipped up." It is not a slip up.
If you make it through this period without popping positive, learn from it, get strong, and stay far, far away from drugs. BTW...alcohol is a drug.
Swampfox
08-03-11, 08:57 PM
Man up and quit. Seek help if you cannot do it yourself. The fact that you could not say no indicates an addiction. You say no, I am not addicted. Then why did you use? You want to know how many times I heard people make the excuse, "I slipped up." It is not a slip up.
He made a mistake dude! Lighten up please. I know you're trying to give the kid advice but it comes off as very crass and abrasive. If he can keep his sh!t together he'll be fine. I was in the same boat as he is and it worked out just fine for me.
MOS4429
08-04-11, 11:14 AM
He made a mistake dude! Lighten up please. I know you're trying to give the kid advice but it comes off as very crass and abrasive. If he can keep his sh!t together he'll be fine. I was in the same boat as he is and it worked out just fine for me.
Yeah, you're right, raw words on a blog can be crass, abrasive. If he was to come speak to me, though, I'd tell him the same thing face to face.
In the late 70s and early 80s there was a bit more understanding for the mistakes people made in this area. Toward the mid 80s and late 80s I saw that tolerance becoming less and less.
I would have to defer to Marines of the day now, but I would venture to say that there is no tolerance at all and from what I am hearing about it becoming harder and harder to get in, I would imagine a positive drug test would send a poolee right out the door.
I understand what you are saying, and he came on here with a question that is geared toward not wanting to be caught. We know, of course, if the "mistake" is repeated, eventually he will be caught, burned, and thrown out to lunch. That is much more crass and abrasive.
So, yeah, I guess I could sugar coat it a bit. The way I see it, right or wrong, if I call him out, get in his face, and it is enough to keep him from using again, then his hurt feelings is a small price to pay.
Plenty of young people screw up. What is required is they REALIZE they screwed up and fix the issue. The screaming and yelling accomplishes nothing more then to make them feel worse then they already do.
Leave the crap alone.... keep your eyes on the goal and remember.... you want to be a Marine...and the Marines don't need you if you don't care.
SSgtRSD
08-04-11, 08:07 PM
Gentleman,
The policy regarding drug use in the Marine Corps is zero tolerance. Plain and simple. Although not a Marine, this young man is under contract with the United States Marine Corps. If as a poolee (with the one goal of becoming a Marine) can not show a little courage and put down the pipe, then there is no room for him in this Marine Corps. The Marine Corps is soon to be cutting down on it's numbers, think about it this way: are you willing to give up your spot for him? We can argue whether smoking dope was a mistake or not, however no one can argue that it is against the UCMJ.
Phuckfacet09 "might" make it to boot .
but i bet he doesnt make it for a full enlistment .
I have the feeling, he's one of the turds that will skate
and cause a whole lotta deaths of Marines around him.
MOS4429
08-05-11, 10:57 AM
Gentleman,
The policy regarding drug use in the Marine Corps is zero tolerance. Plain and simple. Although not a Marine, this young man is under contract with the United States Marine Corps. If as a poolee (with the one goal of becoming a Marine) can not show a little courage and put down the pipe, then there is no room for him in this Marine Corps. The Marine Corps is soon to be cutting down on it's numbers, think about it this way: are you willing to give up your spot for him? We can argue whether smoking dope was a mistake or not, however no one can argue that it is against the UCMJ.
WELL SAID!!! :thumbup:
MunkyVsRobot
08-05-11, 11:59 AM
Understandably I am not a Marine yet I have not been to the island to earn my title yet but I know for sure there is nothing that would make me slip and do that. I have used before and admitted to it but while I am trying to enlist and do all that you just cant let yourself be weak.
Ive left concerts before because I could smell weed and I didnt want any of that **** somehow affecting me going to PI or anything else. Its wise to not even let your self get close to being in that position.
They tell you if you pop positive at all you get thrown out of the Corps and you are barred from joining any other branch of service.
MunkyVsRobot
08-05-11, 12:00 PM
You don't get tested at poolee functions. Although you should be, how hard is it to say to a "friend" nah man I am headed to the Corps no time for that. You will get tested at the MRCD and if you leave tomorrow you will be back home really soon. I'm not claiming to be the best poolee in the world. I have had my issues with Marijuana myself, but since i decided to enlist nothing in my power will stand in the way. You need to adopt like traits poolee.
Couldnt have said it better myself.
Depending on when you actually leave, it may not be that big of a problem. Unless they've changed something drastically, they won't test you again until you actually get to boot camp. They test you more regularly afterwards, though they won't test you again until after boot camp. It's random, so it's not like you can go "OK, I just took a **** test, so I've got two and a half months. I can smoke some weed and get away with it" and expect to fly ultimately.
On the no tolerance thing, it's...kinda case by case? If you're legitimately drugged (I know a few guys who accidently took roofies before and one who thought the brownie had eggs in it and a few who bummed some dip from Afghans who lace that stuff with opium) and can present a case, they may not kick you out if it turns out to be a one time thing, as long as you tell someone within a bit of time (that's how pot brownie guy got off), preferably next day or the day you get off leave. Now, if you're toking up in the barracks bathroom or ODing on coke (yes, I've seen it happen), don't expect an ounce of mercy of course.
Sergeant M
09-17-11, 01:14 AM
You will get tested at the MRCD and if you leave tomorrow you will be back home really soon.
I have seen guys get halfway through training before the results came back. Then they get put in RSP for several months. Chances are, you will spend more time in bootcamp than the average recruit, and all without any hope of becoming a Marine. Seems like a helluva consequence for that momentary pleasure of smoking yourself retarded.
sheamac
12-19-11, 01:14 AM
It's not hard to say no, I do it everyday. Just think what is more important to you? Easy choice. I made mistakes in my past, but I had changed and haven't partaken in years. Being a teen like me and you are, there is alot around. Especially here in San Diego, where there is a dispensery on every corner. But if you want to be a Marine, or hope to be, you can't do things the Marine Corps sees as unfit. Plain and simple.
DudefromDiego
12-19-11, 04:11 PM
It's not hard to say no, I do it everyday. Just think what is more important to you? Easy choice. I made mistakes in my past, but I had changed and haven't partaken in years. Being a teen like me and you are, there is alot around. Especially here in San Diego, where there is a dispensery on every corner. But if you want to be a Marine, or hope to be, you can't do things the Marine Corps sees as unfit. Plain and simple.
This. Growing up in a ill-reputed part of San Diego, I know exactly what you are referring to. All my buddies were (most of them still are) stoners to some extent, and hell, I went to the High School that gave birth to the character of Spicolli, one of the most legendary stoners. I was a poolee my senior year, and the temptations to get baked with my buddies were always there, but I just had to tough it out and say no. I know peer pressure is a *****, but are you willing to risk your life choice on a spliff? I know I wouldn't... as for your scenario, the answer is no. You'll get tested shortly after you arrive at the depot (maybe MEPS, can't remember) but the only time you'll ever get tested as a poolee is when you are trying to get into the DEP. Anything else will be an isolated incident.
sheamac
12-22-11, 02:47 AM
This. Growing up in a ill-reputed part of San Diego, I know exactly what you are referring to. All my buddies were (most of them still are) stoners to some extent, and hell, I went to the High School that gave birth to the character of Spicolli, one of the most legendary stoners. I was a poolee my senior year, and the temptations to get baked with my buddies were always there, but I just had to tough it out and say no. I know peer pressure is a *****, but are you willing to risk your life choice on a spliff? I know I wouldn't... as for your scenario, the answer is no. You'll get tested shortly after you arrive at the depot (maybe MEPS, can't remember) but the only time you'll ever get tested as a poolee is when you are trying to get into the DEP. Anything else will be an isolated incident.
Haha, My mom went to the same highschool, she must have graduated around...80-81, but what a trip.
KStewart
12-22-11, 06:00 PM
Just stop doing it all together, jack off, have sex (don't get anyone pregnant), but stop being ****ing stupid.
usmctanker81486
01-18-12, 09:57 PM
I just got off recruting duty and the only time you get tested for drugs are at MEPS when you first contract and when you arrive at bootcamp usually the first week. However since you just experienced with a drug again it could require a new drug waiver. You need to get with your recruiter and tell him what happened. Because it will also be ashame if you go down to bootcamp and pop during the "moment of truth" which can get you sent home (although unlikely) but will get the recruiter in trouble.
SSgt Shea
When my dad went to PI he went with a buddy, a week before they shipped his buddy smoked weed. When they asked if anyone did any drugs they took them to a room and gave them a waiver some even got away with way worst drugs then weed,(this was in the 80s though). He diden't say anything thinking they wouldent find out. Well he went through all the full 3 months, 2 days before graduation day they told him he wouldent earn the title because he failed the drug test. His parents were already on their way, and he got to see his everybody earn the title while he just sat on the bleachers. Does not get much worst then that lol.
Yonkers
01-21-12, 06:38 AM
Well, I believe this topic has run it's course.
Poolees, DO NOT do drugs. You WILL be tested. If you're really that dependent on drugs then what are you doing? We don't need your trash in. It's because of idiots like you that I have to sit through hours of pointless briefs on drug use.. and even have to take a **** test for that matter.
"Have the **** courage to honor your commitment"
Have a good one,
LCpl Yonkers