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SnowByThePound
05-27-11, 11:58 PM
My original plan was to enlist as an 03 and eventually indoc for Recon. I know to take one step at a time but it is a goal. <br />
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With that being said, i have a previous posession charge for MJ when...

Sgt Leprechaun
05-28-11, 12:06 AM
I would say, if I read this correctly, yes. Indoc's are always going on.

SnowByThePound
05-28-11, 12:30 AM
I would say, if I read this correctly, yes. Indoc's are always going on.

My fault for the long questionaire. rephrase to simplify.

I required a waiver for posession of MJ at 16 yrs old(passed). Am 22 currently.
After a few years in the fleet/deployment under my belt ----- will i have the possibility for the indoc considering my past? What if i chose to enlist as a Combat Engineer rather than infantry due do the wait on open ITB slots?


Thanks for the previous and forcomming replie/s. Accepting your "yes" answer just wanted to clarify due to possibly lack of understanding.

Sgt Leprechaun
05-28-11, 12:32 AM
Thanks for the clarification. At THIS point in time (because none of us can predict the future) I stand by my 'Yes' answer. Think you'll be OK. They USED to have open indoc calls about every six months or so.

SnowByThePound
05-28-11, 12:40 AM
Thanks for the clarification. At THIS point in time (because none of us can predict the future) I stand by my 'Yes' answer. Think you'll be OK. They USED to have open indoc calls about every six months or so.


I am the one who needs to be thanking you, for the knowledge.

To add to my question.. if the ultimate goal resides in going Recon, rather than forseering a career outside of the military, but within. Would you suggest waiting 6-10 months for an infantry slot to open, or accepting an enlistment as a Combat Engineer.

Will work hard either way, but my initial reason for joining the Marine Corps was to be.. "a badass grunt", Sort of speak.

Sgt Leprechaun
05-28-11, 01:06 AM
That one, I'm afraid, I can't answer with much clarity. Totally depends on your situation. Would it be easier to transition from 'Infantry' to 'Marsoc'? "Maybe".

I wish I could be more specific for you but I really can't. Perhaps someone else will come along and give a better answer than I can.

SnowByThePound
05-28-11, 01:29 AM
That one, I'm afraid, I can't answer with much clarity. Totally depends on your situation. Would it be easier to transition from 'Infantry' to 'Marsoc'? "Maybe".

I wish I could be more specific for you but I really can't. Perhaps someone else will come along and give a better answer than I can.

Understood. I do not think anyone can properly answer the question without taking a statistical tally of some sort. Just a bit worried that having such goal will be crushed due to my lack of patience rather than lack of integrity/motivation. As expressed in a few other posts regaurding semi different situations, will just have to think about if its worth willing such a career, or if i can accept the responsibility of being the best i can be in a supporting function for those who are succeeding in that dream most of us signing contracts dream off.

Truly though, thanks for taking the time on replying, and if anyone has information regaurding my situation, it is greatly accepted and appreciated.

SNusbaumer
05-31-11, 02:18 PM
I just finished writing an article on MSOSG, which will be recruiting almost a thousand Marines into MARSOC. But first you need to put your time into the Corps. And you have to do well. Still, this can be a good alternative for those in Combat Support who want a new challenge.

SnowByThePound
06-02-11, 08:04 PM
I just finished writing an article on MSOSG, which will be recruiting almost a thousand Marines into MARSOC. But first you need to put your time into the Corps. And you have to do well. Still, this can be a good alternative for those in Combat Support who want a new challenge.

Thank you, will have to look into that article some.

SNusbaumer
06-08-11, 11:37 AM
I believe the article will be in the August Leatherneck issue, which will come out at the end of July. These so-called "support" Marines are interesting, with a mission that is certainly challenging. So if a Marine is interested in unconventional warfare and MARSOC, there are two ways to go. One is to become a Critical Skill Operator, which everyone knows about, or to become a Capabilities Specialist, which most people think are simply support Marines. They are much more. And both are deployed in MSOTs (Teams), the small units that are the backbone of Marine Special Operations Forces.

2nd0321
06-08-11, 12:27 PM
From the information i have about MARSOC you dont have to be a 03xx. It is easier to be one then Recon. The requirements are less then you have for Recon. The indoc use to be open every third Thursday when i was going through the process.All you can do is put in a package for MARSOC and if you get acepted then you are in. I dont know much about MARSOC just Recon. If im wrong please feel free to correct me. Hope this helps. You must also be able to get a security clearence for it so if your MJ issue stops you from that you might not be able too.

2nd0321
06-08-11, 12:30 PM
MY info came from a recruiter. That might be the best way to find out or a career planner if you are already in. If not talk to one they can tell you more.

SNusbaumer
06-09-11, 10:37 PM
True, MARSOC is actually open to all MOSs. No, MARSOC is not easy, in fact they are trying to lower the wash-out rate. They started ASPOC to identify some of the problems in A&S that is leading to the high failure rate.

BTW, have started an article on 2nd Force Recon, but that probably won't be published until September, maybe October.

SnowByThePound
06-10-11, 05:17 PM
From the information i have about MARSOC you dont have to be a 03xx. It is easier to be one then Recon. The requirements are less then you have for Recon. The indoc use to be open every third Thursday when i was going through the process.All you can do is put in a package for MARSOC and if you get acepted then you are in. I dont know much about MARSOC just Recon. If im wrong please feel free to correct me. Hope this helps. You must also be able to get a security clearence for it so if your MJ issue stops you from that you might not be able too.


Aye. The reason i question the acceptance of Marines outside of the 03xx field is because from the visuals/knowledge I've learned so far, being an 03 is where you get the extensive daily physical strengths needed for such a career, to atleast make your try out easier.

Definately understand that having required an MJ Waiver pretty much puts the options out of my reach, but hoping that down the road, if Recon/MARSOC are still something that interest me after experiencing the Marine Corps., then that issue will be looked upon a little lighter due to it being so long ago, and showing/earning respect during my first enlistment.(Surely there is no way to vouch but it's what i am being told is a possibility)


Ty to all the Marines who replied to the thread, it's good to know there are some other options in regards to going that route and i'll have to look into them more.

Feel free to shed anything else you have to offer about steps needed to succeed, aside from being physically fit. I have asked questions in my RSS but the only Marine i know who had interests in that, washed out because of swim qualifications. So the absolute knowledge if it doesn't go too far.

SnowByThePound
06-10-11, 05:25 PM
BTW, have started an article on 2nd Force Recon, but that probably won't be published until September, maybe October.

If there is a way i could get a glimpse of your previous article which you stated would be released the August issue, i'd definitly enjoy the read. I only ask because at that time I will not be able to catch view of it for a while. Thanks.



My fault on double posting. Ran out of edit time.:thumbdown

Hbomb
10-28-11, 10:21 AM
You can do the indoc anytime you want, as a pvt-sgt, sooner the better. Same with marsoc, go talk to the screening team or marsoc recruiter(not your recruiter), fill out screening check list and NSW form, get scheduled for next ASPOC(3wks), pass it, go to selection(3wks), pass it, go to ITC(9months), pass it your a cso, go to a msot at 1st,2nd,3rd msob. go to ssbc, masc, airborne, FF, alc.... and on, deploy, come back, repeat....

eric huitrado
10-28-11, 11:32 AM
It's ture, you can get picked up from most any MOS, It just depends on your seriousness and want from your time in the Corps. My Son is his Combat training from Pendleton this week. He wants to be a hard Charging Marine, He worked his azz off in boot, became the guide for his plt. and was selected as series honorman, Meritoriously promoted to L/CPL out of boot. Then went to Pendleton for his combat training as a non 0300, again, became Company honorman, His Leaders have now selected his name to be looked at for Recon, Hopefully he will get it, wont know until the day before his graduation which is Nov. 2nd. So anything you want to do, or be in the Corps, is truely in your hands.

LandsNGrooves
10-30-11, 05:12 PM
Anyone interested in Marsoc should try too enlist as hi up(or down) the food chain as far a training as possible. Some things you can train for like ruck runs and PT, somethings you cannot. IN aspoc, you get a pych exam, which you cant really train for.