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StndUpOrStndDwn
02-24-11, 01:04 PM
Looking for anyone that served with a Michael (Mike) Paul McAvoy. He claims to have served in Viet Nam and that he was honorably discharged as an E4 Buck Sergeant. <br />
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USNAviator
02-24-11, 01:16 PM
Claims to have served? Are you outing a poser?

StndUpOrStndDwn
02-24-11, 01:23 PM
I am.

USNAviator
02-24-11, 01:28 PM
I am.

Well you know the route. Have you vetted him, MOS? DD-214 etc? Not sure looking for someone who served with him is going to be very fruitful. But good luck

SGT7477
02-24-11, 02:02 PM
No such thing as an E4 Buck Sgt, Semper Fidelis.:flag:

Old Marine
02-24-11, 04:28 PM
No such thing as an E4 Buck Sgt, Semper Fidelis.:flag:

Not since they scrwed up the rank structure in 1958.:evilgrin:

StndUpOrStndDwn
02-24-11, 06:47 PM
Figured this might be a long shot. But on the other hand -- why the hell not, right?

Zulu 36
02-24-11, 08:15 PM
Figured this might be a long shot. But on the other hand -- why the hell not, right?


Well, you've got him on one mistake, the E-4/Sgt. Ask him what unit he was in and specific locations. I don't know a cogent Vietnam vet who can't tell you his unit and where his unit was based.

AlabamaRon
02-24-11, 08:50 PM
Y'all that think there was no such thing as a buck Sergeant E-4 when Vietnam started were not in the same Corps as I was. Granted, there were very few of the old ones around but they did exist.

Old Marine
02-24-11, 09:53 PM
Y'all that think there was no such thing as a buck Sergeant E-4 when Vietnam started were not in the same Corps as I was. Granted, there were very few of the old ones around but they did exist.

Sure did. Also had Acting Sgt's. Fact is we had a lo of actor's while they were changing the Rank Structure.

EGA1957
02-24-11, 11:49 PM
Sure did. Also had Acting Sgt's. Fact is we had a lo of actor's while they were changing the Rank Structure.
And probably a lot of PO'd Sgt E-4s who got the "crossed rifles" and not the rocker they were expecting or thought they had earned.

bucksgted
02-25-11, 12:03 AM
It's possible, but highly unlikely that he was a Buck Sergeant while serving in Nam. The rank changes (crossed rifles and pay increases) were announced in Fall of 1958 with implementation to begin...

Old Marine
02-25-11, 08:59 AM
When I made E-5 I wore the SSgt. chevrons as at the time they didn't have the new ones in the system yet.

AlabamaRon
03-19-11, 09:12 AM
Thinking more about this subject. When I was stationed at Camp Hague, Okinawa in 1964 with the 3rdMarDiv G-2, we had two buck Sgts and they both had been sent to Vietnam for about 60 day as advisors before we all went down in force in 1965.