order on the wearing of civilian PT gear.. - Marine Corps Community for USMC Marine Veterans

benw2200 · 02-08-10, 10:29 PM

Does anyone know the actual Marine Corps order on the regs for wearing civilian PT shorts in places like a PX, chow hall, etc. It seems like I'm always hearing people talk about pockets, like if shorts have a certain number of pockets they are ok to wear in public as "non-pt" shorts. My unit is de-mobilizing in Pendleton right now and I've seen guys in the PX and chow hall here wearing civilian PT shorts with pockets and not getting chewed out for doing so.. so I'm assuming there's some type of maradmin/almar/whatever on the subject. thanks.

LetUsNvr4Get · 02-09-10, 05:28 AM

All you have to do is read your base order (BO 1020.8W) Devil.
The BO's will tell you everything (i.e., belts, shirt styles, etc.) that you can and cannot wear to include wearing headgear sideways or backwards in some cases.

artypig · 02-09-10, 09:14 AM

It used to be that any shorts you wear had to have four pockets like your trousers and had to have belt loops, and as you know if it has belt loops you wear a belt. They also need to be cleaned and pressed if need be. Marines aren't like any other branch, we take pride in everything we do or wear. We are NOT bags of poop for a lack of a better word or one that can be typed here.

Semper Fi!

BR34 · 02-09-10, 09:15 AM

I think the uniform order is P1020

FistFu68 · 02-09-10, 09:35 AM

Starch Your Skivvies like a Board @ wear them that should Impress the Brass

Old Marine · 02-09-10, 10:17 AM

I have a suggestion. Dress the way that a Marine should dress and you will not have a problem.

LetUsNvr4Get · 02-09-10, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Marine

I have a suggestion. Dress the way that a Marine should dress and you will not have a problem.

OORAH GUNNY !!!

how to dress and present ourselves is basic boot camp Marine knowledge.

A good moto to go by is "When In Doubt, DONT !"

MD8724 · 02-09-10, 11:05 AM

If the order says he can wear his shorts, then I guess that would be a way that a Marine should dress.

Old Marine · 02-09-10, 03:04 PM

Its amazing that for years and years the Marine Corps has survived because real Marines do not question orders given by superiors, either verbaly or written.

It seems that these days according to some, if it is a written order they want to know who wrote it and who signed it. Why it was written and so on. Sounds a lot like some people still haven't gotten rid of their civilian fire drill ways. Nothing ceases to amaze me these days.

MD8724 · 02-10-10, 09:58 PM

It's generally best to understand an order before you follow it blindly.

Man, I love having DISCUSSION boards, where we can DISCUSS things.

Silentwarrior17 · 02-11-10, 07:48 AM

Anyone ever see a Lcpl tell a Cpl or a Sgt that 'I can wear these cuz it says in the MCO blah blah blah'...I think not. Don't worry about the order and don't worry about what everyone else is wearing. You know what to wear regardless of the MCO. Believe me...I seen a Cpl try to bring this crap of MCO up on a Lt. Col and the Sgts and above in the PX got thier Azz handed to them in the middle of the store for not correcting the marine...you will get corrected if need be, it's just a matter of time.

Old Marine · 02-11-10, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD8724

It's generally best to understand an order before you follow it blindly.

Man, I love having DISCUSSION boards, where we can DISCUSS things.

There are many times when you verbaly receive an order and it has to be followed immediately. (Meaning that you do not have time to question it or go to S-1 and look it up.)

Wheels123 · 02-11-10, 10:48 AM

MCO P1020.34G is the order on uniform regulations. Use common sense, if you have to question whether or not you can wear it, don't wear it. It is simple as that, definately don't try pulling the "Well the MCO says this" crap. You might just step on the wrong toes and next thing you know the Base Commander puts out an order stating that all Marines will only wear "Charlies" while on liberty.

StoneTheWeak · 02-11-10, 12:34 PM

I wear pt shorts with pockets all the time, and never catch hell for it. And I carry a copy of the order on civilian attire in case some poorly misinformed motivator thinks the order says I can't. There's a difference between what the order/base allows and what someone else thinks they should allow.

I'm gonna go with the order and the base, not the individual, considering the orders are written by people with shinier things on their collar.

Silentwarrior17 · 02-11-10, 01:13 PM

Good luck there stone, dont' say we didn't try to warn ya.



02-08-10, 10:29 PM	#1
benw2200 Marine Free Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Johnson City Posts: 143 Credits: 10,035	order on the wearing of civilian PT gear.. Does anyone know the actual Marine Corps order on the regs for wearing civilian PT shorts in places like a PX, chow hall, etc. It seems like I'm always hearing people talk about pockets, like if shorts have a certain number of pockets they are ok to wear in public as "non-pt" shorts. My unit is de-mobilizing in Pendleton right now and I've seen guys in the PX and chow hall here wearing civilian PT shorts with pockets and not getting chewed out for doing so.. so I'm assuming there's some type of maradmin/almar/whatever on the subject. thanks.



02-09-10, 05:28 AM	#2
LetUsNvr4Get Marine Free Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sasebo, JP Posts: 61 Credits: 91	All you have to do is read your base order (BO 1020.8W) Devil. The BO's will tell you everything (i.e., belts, shirt styles, etc.) that you can and cannot wear to include wearing headgear sideways or backwards in some cases. __________________



02-09-10, 09:15 AM	#4
BR34 Marine Free Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: By the river, in a little tent Posts: 3,763 Credits: 12,409	I think the uniform order is P1020 __________________ There's no team in I.



02-09-10, 09:35 AM	#5
FistFu68 Marine Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Franklin,WI Posts: 4,786 Credits: 11,505 Images: 6	Starch Your Skivvies like a Board @ wear them that should Impress the Brass __________________ COCKED~LOCKED~READY TO ROCK



02-09-10, 10:17 AM	#6
Old Marine Marine Free Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Nevada Posts: 1,882 Credits: 10,713	I have a suggestion. Dress the way that a Marine should dress and you will not have a problem. __________________



02-09-10, 09:14 AM	#3
artypig Marine Free Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 80 Credits: 10,091	It used to be that any shorts you wear had to have four pockets like your trousers and had to have belt loops, and as you know if it has belt loops you wear a belt. They also need to be cleaned and pressed if need be. Marines aren't like any other branch, we take pride in everything we do or wear. We are NOT bags of poop for a lack of a better word or one that can be typed here. Semper Fi!



02-09-10, 11:05 AM	#8
MD8724 Marine Free Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: El Paso Posts: 267 Credits: 10,244	If the order says he can wear his shorts, then I guess that would be a way that a Marine should dress. __________________ "The ones that always say 'ooh-rah!' and yell are the guys in the rear that spent too much time on the drill field. It's false motivation," - Sgt. Maj. Robert E. Mastriano



02-09-10, 03:04 PM	#9
Old Marine Marine Free Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Nevada Posts: 1,882 Credits: 10,713	Its amazing that for years and years the Marine Corps has survived because real Marines do not question orders given by superiors, either verbaly or written. It seems that these days according to some, if it is a written order they want to know who wrote it and who signed it. Why it was written and so on. Sounds a lot like some people still haven't gotten rid of their civilian fire drill ways. Nothing ceases to amaze me these days. __________________



02-10-10, 09:58 PM	#10
MD8724 Marine Free Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: El Paso Posts: 267 Credits: 10,244	It's generally best to understand an order before you follow it blindly. Man, I love having DISCUSSION boards, where we can DISCUSS things. __________________ "The ones that always say 'ooh-rah!' and yell are the guys in the rear that spent too much time on the drill field. It's false motivation," - Sgt. Maj. Robert E. Mastriano



02-11-10, 07:48 AM	#11
Silentwarrior17 Marine Free Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flint Posts: 137 Credits: 158	Anyone ever see a Lcpl tell a Cpl or a Sgt that 'I can wear these cuz it says in the MCO blah blah blah'...I think not. Don't worry about the order and don't worry about what everyone else is wearing. You know what to wear regardless of the MCO. Believe me...I seen a Cpl try to bring this crap of MCO up on a Lt. Col and the Sgts and above in the PX got thier Azz handed to them in the middle of the store for not correcting the marine...you will get corrected if need be, it's just a matter of time. __________________



02-11-10, 10:48 AM	#13
Wheels123 Marine Free Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Honolulu Posts: 120 Credits: 190	MCO P1020.34G is the order on uniform regulations. Use common sense, if you have to question whether or not you can wear it, don't wear it. It is simple as that, definately don't try pulling the "Well the MCO says this" crap. You might just step on the wrong toes and next thing you know the Base Commander puts out an order stating that all Marines will only wear "Charlies" while on liberty. __________________ Beer is better than Obama because Marines like beer.



02-11-10, 12:34 PM	#14
StoneTheWeak Marine Free Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 384 Credits: 9,876	I wear pt shorts with pockets all the time, and never catch hell for it. And I carry a copy of the order on civilian attire in case some poorly misinformed motivator thinks the order says I can't. There's a difference between what the order/base allows and what someone else thinks they should allow. I'm gonna go with the order and the base, not the individual, considering the orders are written by people with shinier things on their collar. __________________ Stone the weak, for they are without courage and resolution.



02-11-10, 01:13 PM	#15
Silentwarrior17 Marine Free Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Flint Posts: 137 Credits: 158	Good luck there stone, dont' say we didn't try to warn ya. __________________

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