Does Anyone Remember SPN Numbers? - Marine Corps Community for USMC Marine Veterans

jinelson · 01-13-05, 11:19 AM

This was a number that was placed on your DD-214 form that described your service and reason for discharge. They were outlawed in the late 1970's or early 1980's. When Nam was winding down and Marine units were being deployed back home the Corps offered many early out programs. One of them involved drug abuse. I had all my junior Marines fall for what sounded like a good deal to them. I tried my best to tell them that the Marine Corps dosent give honorable discharges away unless earned. Unfortunately they didnt listen to the old sarge. I remember one very young Pfc who was married with one child coming back and begging me to intercede in his behalf and get him back in the Corps after a very short time of a week or two. He told me that he had lied on the form and said that he was a drug user and he really wasent. Well to make a long sad story short he was denied employment every where he went because the government had made the numbers known to employers and he was in even worse financial shape than when he was in the Corps.

Jim

Namvet67 · 01-13-05, 11:48 AM

jinelson...I'm looking at my DD-214. 11c. Reason and authority 08-06-70 There are a bunch of numbers in 11c. I think they all refer to my transfer to Marine Corps Reserve, but really not sure what they mean. Where would I find out what those numbers mean? gbudd

jinelson · 01-13-05, 11:55 AM

Great question gbudd I did a google search and found loads of info but what I believe is my SPN # 21G then a bunch of MCO's as authority. Some of the sites I searched gave the numbers but they didnt explain exactly what they meant. I did see mentioned that they were outlawed as discriminatory. They have forms to fill out and send in to get an explaination but its kinda moot now since I have recieved my Honorable Discharge certificate.

Jim

Namvet67 · 01-13-05, 12:03 PM

Ok thanks jinelson...My number is also 21G then cofG Par 6012.1aMARCORSEPMAN MCO 1900.2F MCBul 1910....it should of said...Welcome home and thanks for your service Marine. Gary

Namvet67 · 01-13-05, 12:16 PM

Jim..now that we got everyone pulling out their DD-214 forms...another question...there is no mention of my service in Vietnam other than Vietnam medals...just a mention in 22c Foreign and/or sea service 02 11 09.

Namvet67 · 01-13-05, 12:51 PM

The DD-214 form we were issued was revised 01 JUl 66 and the next revision was 01 Nov 72. Reason and authority was removed. Why?

jinelson · 01-13-05, 01:24 PM

Yeah Gary I bet we do have everyone looking. My DD-214 is the same other than medals and the foreeign/and or sea service. It is funny though I just noticed that in 30. it states that I was undecided on reenlistment even though I got my DD-214 and Honorable Discharge at the same time.



01-13-05, 11:19 AM	#1
jinelson Platoon Leader Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 4,723 Credits: 10,024 Images: 57	Does Anyone Remember SPN Numbers? This was a number that was placed on your DD-214 form that described your service and reason for discharge. They were outlawed in the late 1970's or early 1980's. When Nam was winding down and Marine units were being deployed back home the Corps offered many early out programs. One of them involved drug abuse. I had all my junior Marines fall for what sounded like a good deal to them. I tried my best to tell them that the Marine Corps dosent give honorable discharges away unless earned. Unfortunately they didnt listen to the old sarge. I remember one very young Pfc who was married with one child coming back and begging me to intercede in his behalf and get him back in the Corps after a very short time of a week or two. He told me that he had lied on the form and said that he was a drug user and he really wasent. Well to make a long sad story short he was denied employment every where he went because the government had made the numbers known to employers and he was in even worse financial shape than when he was in the Corps. Jim __________________ No better friend/No worse enemy



01-13-05, 11:48 AM	#2
Namvet67 Marine Free Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 942 Credits: 10,000	jinelson...I'm looking at my DD-214. 11c. Reason and authority 08-06-70 There are a bunch of numbers in 11c. I think they all refer to my transfer to Marine Corps Reserve, but really not sure what they mean. Where would I find out what those numbers mean? gbudd



01-13-05, 11:55 AM	#3
jinelson Platoon Leader Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 4,723 Credits: 10,024 Images: 57	Great question gbudd I did a google search and found loads of info but what I believe is my SPN # 21G then a bunch of MCO's as authority. Some of the sites I searched gave the numbers but they didnt explain exactly what they meant. I did see mentioned that they were outlawed as discriminatory. They have forms to fill out and send in to get an explaination but its kinda moot now since I have recieved my Honorable Discharge certificate. Jim



01-13-05, 12:03 PM	#4
Namvet67 Marine Free Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 942 Credits: 10,000	Ok thanks jinelson...My number is also 21G then cofG Par 6012.1aMARCORSEPMAN MCO 1900.2F MCBul 1910....it should of said...Welcome home and thanks for your service Marine. Gary



01-13-05, 12:16 PM	#5
Namvet67 Marine Free Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 942 Credits: 10,000	Jim..now that we got everyone pulling out their DD-214 forms...another question...there is no mention of my service in Vietnam other than Vietnam medals...just a mention in 22c Foreign and/or sea service 02 11 09.



01-13-05, 12:51 PM	#6
Namvet67 Marine Free Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 942 Credits: 10,000	The DD-214 form we were issued was revised 01 JUl 66 and the next revision was 01 Nov 72. Reason and authority was removed. Why?



01-13-05, 01:24 PM	#7
jinelson Platoon Leader Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 4,723 Credits: 10,024 Images: 57	Yeah Gary I bet we do have everyone looking. My DD-214 is the same other than medals and the foreeign/and or sea service. It is funny though I just noticed that in 30. it states that I was undecided on reenlistment even though I got my DD-214 and Honorable Discharge at the same time.

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