no more 96's

[ChuckH]

We used to Swoop from MCAS Beaufort, SC to NY/CT 70-71
There were a couple of Marines that used to swoop to Youngstown, Ohio. (that was in a regular week-end)

[BR34]

Word around the lance corporal underground is there are no more 96's. We heard that oki canked them and here at lejeune we were supposed to have one for Colombus day and at the last minute they changed it to a 72...apparently Marines can get DUI's on 96's but not 72's. Anyone heard about this yet, or am I just crazy?

Columbus Day was my first 72 since Independence Day at MOS school in 2007, and I'm pretty sure it was cut short just because we were students.

I didn't even know the Marine Corps still did 72s, till this weekend. Whatever though, 1 day off is better than none.

[hrscowboy]

Ok Lets Dogpile Sgt Lep .....

[CalahanD]

yeah we still do the liberty sheets. they are called ORM's. even if I am going from the barracks to my house which is 5 miles away I still have to do it and mapquest it. I understand if I was a boot you could say "what about the Marines on deployment, you should be happy", but since I am not a boot and just got back from deployment than I believe I have the right to complain about it.

[Quinbo]

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[phoneman]

I will tell you the Liberty circles do matter still. If you get caught, depending on the command, you will get nailed. The degree of nailed depends on the command. Example... 3 weeks ago my son left Lejuene to come home for the weekend (350) miles. While home he decided to crash a motorcycle and get 10 stitches in his leg and and on crutches for a few weeks and light duty. He did not get in trouble for the accident just being outside the liberty circles. Now he has 60 days of reporting to the OOD at 5:00 pm every day including weekends and lost the 72 over Columbus day. He was told he will get the 96 over Veterans day as long as he keeps his nose clean. Other commands have been known to bust you and take a half months pay for a couple of months.

[zx6rdr]

Chapter 3
Liberty Regulations
1. Liberty
a. Regular Liberty. Regular liberty should normally be granted from the
end of normal working hours on one day to the commencement of working hours on
the next working day. On weekends, regular liberty should normally be
authorized to commence at the end of working hours on Friday afternoon until
the commencement of normal working hours on the following Monday morning. For
Marines on shift work, equivalent schedules should be arranged, though the
days of the week may vary. Regular liberty periods shall not exceed 3 days.
Public holiday weekends and public holiday days or periods specifically
authorized by the President of the United States are regular liberty periods.
b. Special Liberty. Special liberty shall not be combined with regular
liberty or holiday periods when the combined periods of continuous absence
will exceed four days.
c. Three or Four Days Special Liberty. Special liberty periods of three
or four days may be granted on special occasions or in special circumstances,
such as, but not limited to:
(1) Compensation for significant periods of unusually extensive
working hours.
(2) Special recognition for exceptional performance, such as Marine of
the quarter/year, etc.
(3) Compensation for long or arduous deployment from home stations or
homeport, afloat or in the field
(4) Compensation to Marines on ships in overhaul away from homeport.
(5) Compensation for duty at a unit or activity for which normal
liberty is inadequate due to isolated locations.
(6) A traffic safety consideration for long weekends or avoidance of
peak traffic periods.
(7) House hunting trips for Marines returning from overseas tours who
are not otherwise eligible for permissive TAD.
d. Limitations
(1) Three day special liberty is a liberty period designed to give a
Marine three full days absence from work or duty, usually beginning at the end
of normal working hours on a given day and expiring with the start of normal
working hours on the fourth day (e.g., from Monday evening until Friday
morning or from Friday evening until Tuesday morning). When a 3-day liberty
embraces only regular liberty time, such as Saturday and Sunday with a Friday
or Monday National Holiday (when scheduled work hours are not included), the
time off is regular liberty. A 3-day special liberty period may not be
combined with normal liberty or holiday periods when the combined periods of
continuous absence would exceed three days.
(2) Four day special liberty is a liberty period designed to give a
service member four full days absence from work or duty, usually expiring with
MCO 1050.3J
3-2 Enclosure (1)
the start of normal working hours on the fifth day, and including at least two
consecutive non-work days (i.e., from Wednesday evening until Monday morning).
(3) Liberty periods shall not be effective in succession or used in
series through recommitment immediately after return to duty.
(4) Leave and special liberty shall not be combined in continuous
absence from the duty station, nor shall they be effective in succession or
series through commencement of one immediately upon return to duty from the
other. Leave and special liberty may only be combined when the Marine will
physically be within the vicinity of the local area of the Marine’s Primary
Duty Station (as established by the local commander) and available for recall
to duty during the special liberty period. When combined with special liberty,
Marines will not be charged annual leave during the special liberty period
provided they are within the specified liberty limits (see chapter 2 paragraph
5c).
e. Compensatory Liberty. When the operational situation permits,
compensatory time off as liberty should normally be granted following duty on
national holidays. When granted, this compensatory time off should, except in
unusual circumstances in individual cases, be granted on the first working day
following the holiday. If a holiday falls on a weekend, either Friday or
Monday is designated as the non-workday. Compensatory time off is to be
applied to both the holiday and the designated non-workday, on a day-for-day
basis.
f. Extensions of Liberty. When a Marine requests an extension of an
authorized period of special liberty and the said time (special liberty and
extension) shall exceed four days, that portion that exceeds the special
liberty shall be charged to the Marine's leave account.
g. Medical Restrictions. Marines under treatment for infectious or
contagious disease shall not be granted liberty while they are in an
infectious stage except in cases of urgent personal matters, which in the
discretion of the officer in command or competent medical authority warrant
authorization of such liberty.
2. Liberty Limits. While liberty is permission to leave the duty station, it
does not include permission to leave the general vicinity of the base or
station. Commanders shall define liberty limits in local liberty regulations
after taking into consideration the local situation, including the surrounding
facilities, availability of transportation, commuting distances, and other
pertinent factors.
3. Liberty Passes. A valid Armed Forces Identification Card shall suffice to
identify a Marine on authorized liberty. Liberty passes may be used to
control the authorized absence, other than leave or administrative absence, of
Marines below the grade of corporal when, in the judgment of the commander or
the senior officer in the chain of command, it is deemed necessary for
security, operational, or other overriding circumstances. When deemed
necessary, the following liberty passes and lists may be used:
a. Regular Liberty. When liberty passes are prescribed for regular
liberty within the general vicinity of the duty station, commands will develop
internal control measures for creating and distributing Liberty Passes (use of
NAVMC 10471 authorized).
b. Liberty Lists. When liberty passes are used, liberty lists should be
maintained by using NAVMC 10472 or other locally devised lists.
MCO 1050.3J
3-3 Enclosure (1)
c. Special Liberty or Permission to Leave the General Vicinity of the
Duty Station. When such passes are deemed necessary by the commander or the
senior officer in the chain of command, the Liberty Request/Out of Bounds Pass
forms may be used to authorize special liberty or permission to leave the
general vicinity of the duty station.
d. Special Passes. When deemed appropriate or necessary to publish
special instructions, the commander or the senior officer in the chain of
command may require the use of special passes for regular or special liberty
for visits to foreign countries or places that are contiguous to local liberty
areas.
4. Public Holidays. The following holidays established by law should be
observed except when military operations prevent. When such holidays fall on
a Saturday, the Friday before shall be considered a holiday. When such
holidays fall on a Sunday, the Monday after shall be considered a holiday.
Other public holidays may be designated by the President of the United States
on a one time or continuous basis.
a. New Year's Day, 1 January.
b. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Birthday, the third Monday in January.
c. President's Day, the third Monday in February.
d. Memorial Day, the last Monday in May.
e. Independence Day, 4 July.
f. Labor Day, the first Monday in September.
g. Columbus Day, the second Monday in October.
h. Veterans Day, 11 November.
i. Thanksgiving Day, the fourth Thursday in November.
h. Christmas Day, 25 December.
5. Absence Over Liberty. For detailed instructions regarding absence over

liberty and exceptions thereto, see chapter 2 paragraph 20b

[zx6rdr]

Wonder if my 1,067 mile trips from SD to Denver were outta bounds for a 96?

[Kegler300]

I wonder how many 96's our Marines are getting in Iraq and Afghanistan...

[Backhaus 1103]

I wonder how many 96's our Marines are getting in Iraq and Afghanistan...

Since we don't get 96s on deployment then no one should....great logic

[zx6rdr]

None. I don't know about the SD to Denver Marine but the swoops I'm talking about happened 40-something years ago.
It was closer to the time of WWII----only 20 years after it ended.

Not that far back-- it was in '99-'01 era....

[Supersquishy]

What if a Marine has a fast Airplane? Does the rules still apply?

[tdrt]

Just be happy the numbers aren't reversed/inverted. Then that would be something to cry about!

[Marine84]

I say some better than none.

Do they still have duty sections?

[ggyoung]

It seems like I remember we would get a 96 about once a month at 29 Palms in 1966-68.