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    Military Pay Raise

    America’s Military has found the ‘Change’ our president talked about, it will be left over of our pay raise, after taxes – Gary Stein


    We are fighting two wars. We are helping secure the boarder. We have sworn to protect this nation and its freedoms even if it cost us our lives. And this year the president is opposed to the lowest Military pay raise since 1973, not because it is to low, but because it is to high. He has proposed a pay raise of merely 1.4%, which is lower then Welfare recipients with be getting. America’s Military has found the ‘Change’ our president talked about, it is what will be left over of our lowest pay raise, after taxes

    Army Deputy Chief of Staff for Personnel Lt. Gen. Thomas Bostick has even said that "we actually think we have a surplus in terms of pay."… Well sir before you speak on behave of the Military please step out of your General sized shoes and squeeze into the everyday Military Families shoes. Come live pay check to pay check. Come dig through your couch cushions looking for change to get some gas because you don’t get paid for 2 more days. Moves your family to either NCO housing which is not worth the Basic Housing Allowance you rate or decided to live 30 miles away from base where you can afford a home big enough for your family.

    Here is the problem. Washington and it seems a portion of the Pentagon, are filled with politicians that don’t what is good for the everyday man let alone the everyday Military Family. It is understandable that some people would not know or have forgotten what it means to be an everyday Military Family. They have forgotten what it means to be and everyday American Family.

    So here is your chance to Sound Off… Contact Lt Gen.. Thomas Bostick and please remind him what it means to be and everyday American and Military Family.
    (703) 692-1281

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    Gary Stein
    Armed Forces Tea Party


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    GARY....let's not forget Social Security! "WE", haven't had a "pay raise" in a coon's age!.....haven't had a raise in disability benefits, also! Let's get RID of the IRS, and have a FLAT-TAX, that way everybody ponies up his fair share!!......whatcha' thimk?.....


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    With you on that Doc!!!!!!!!!!

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    I doubt this will be popular, but I personally think we get paid just fine. The high raises we have become accustomed to were only designed to close the gap with civilian pay. Basic pay and allowances are fine, but I wouldn't mind seeing more money directed towards the quality of life initiatives.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PaidinBlood View Post
    I doubt this will be popular, but I personally think we get paid just fine. The high raises we have become accustomed to were only designed to close the gap with civilian pay. Basic pay and allowances are fine, but I wouldn't mind seeing more money directed towards the quality of life initiatives.
    No talking sense to the coots. Don't you know that's frowned upon?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BR34 View Post
    No talking sense to the coots. Don't you know that's frowned upon?
    What is that supposed to mean?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryStein View Post
    What is that supposed to mean?
    I'm sorry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PaidinBlood View Post
    I doubt this will be popular, but I personally think we get paid just fine. The high raises we have become accustomed to were only designed to close the gap with civilian pay. Basic pay and allowances are fine, but I wouldn't mind seeing more money directed towards the quality of life initiatives.
    High pay raises. May I ask what you consider a high pay raise. Our military should be the highest paid military in the world.


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    I can't say I agree. We don't do it for the money; we-I guess I should say I here- only ask enough money to live comfortably and well, that's what I get. Granted I've only been doing the Marine thing a few years, but I've always had enough. How much do you think we should make?


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    Me to Doc


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    This is the problem. We have President that has no idea what it means to be a Military member. He see the Military budget as a account he can write checks thus he believes that we can cut back. This falls in line with Obama's main focus, making the people of this country depend on government. How many Military families are on welfare and food stamps... A lot more then you would think. When you a Socialist leader like Obama, he will do anything to make you and I depend on him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryStein View Post
    This is the problem. We have President that has no idea what it means to be a Military member. He see the Military budget as a account he can write checks thus he believes that we can cut back. This falls in line with Obama's main focus, making the people of this country depend on government. How many Military families are on welfare and food stamps... A lot more then you would think. When you a Socialist leader like Obama, he will do anything to make you and I depend on him.
    I'm with ya on a lot of that, but I just don't agree on the subject of the military. I know for a fact there are a lot of Pendleton Marines on federal assistance, and it made me sick.

    You see, we make plenty to live on but everyone wants more. I made choices and I don't regret them (well not all of 'em )

    I chose to get married (just once, thank the Lord!) I chose to be a Marine (twice), I chose to have kids (twice). As a result, I don't have half the disposable income my LCpls and PFCs have. While the single sergeants are driving nice azz cars and living at the bar, I drive my beat up pickup home to watch a $1 redbox movie with my kids and that's ok.

    I am not fiscally responsible by any stretch of the imagination but somehow I make it work. Why can't everyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaidinBlood View Post
    I'm with ya on a lot of that, but I just don't agree on the subject of the military. I know for a fact there are a lot of Pendleton Marines on federal assistance, and it made me sick.

    You see, we make plenty to live on but everyone wants more. I made choices and I don't regret them (well not all of 'em )

    I chose to get married (just once, thank the Lord!) I chose to be a Marine (twice), I chose to have kids (twice). As a result, I don't have half the disposable income my LCpls and PFCs have. While the single sergeants are driving nice azz cars and living at the bar, I drive my beat up pickup home to watch a $1 redbox movie with my kids and that's ok.

    I am not fiscally responsible by any stretch of the imagination but somehow I make it work. Why can't everyone else?
    I agree with you. But Why? You have signed the dotted line and said that if it came to it, you would give you life for our nation. So why not be compensated for that in return. Do you think you make as much as your civilian counter part?

    Many Marines do live outside their means, and I can say I have to at times... but who has drawn those lines for us. Who has said that a Sgt in the worlds finest Military should drive a beat up truck and settle for less... see this is were you and lots like you have just settled... you have been told this is just the way it is... live within your means... well I say no... I say WE need to push for for a better life... we need to contact our our elected officials... We have to let our voice be heard and let Big Government know that our pay and the Military budget is not an area to negotiate on. This is why I have got involved in the Tea Party, why I try and play as big as a role as I have time for


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    Sorry, brother, the cough syrup is clouding my head and I didn't realize this was just another AFTP plug. Carry on, then. I like numbers better than rhetoric-try some of these out..
    http://www.airforce-magazine.com/Mag...0710issbf.aspx

    Last edited by PaidinBlood; 07-21-10 at 04:30 PM. Reason: probably too late but I took a cheap shot-sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaidinBlood View Post
    Sorry, brother, the cough syrup is clouding my head and I didn't realize this was just another AFTP plug. Carry on, then. Just know that I didn't settle for sht and don't appreciate being used as a pawn.

    I like numbers better than rhetoric-try some of these out..
    http://www.airforce-magazine.com/Mag...0710issbf.aspx
    No Plug here. Im not here to convince you to 'come to our ways'... and even more the Tea Party is not here to use anyone as a pawn. I am an active duty sgt also... I created AFTP... and I am just using this to get more views on subjects that sometimes as Military members we think we should not have an opinion about.


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