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12-26-09, 07:58 AM #1
Please: Need Serious Advice on my situation
Good morning Marines. I am a 26 year old currently in college for Criminal Justice with a good career and completely self sufficient. I wanted more with my life and did EVERYTHING for enlistment except swear in and sign a contract.
I was arrested and convicted of what I THINK was a Burglary and a felony at the age 16. I disclosed ALL information to my recruiter. My recruiter then contacted another recruiter in that state, did background checks for the ENTIRE state including the other two states I lived in the past 8 years (military family). NOTHING has turned up. The recruiter even called Juvenile hall, court, and D.A. and was told the same thing.. "if he has a juvenile record, you cant have it without obtaining a court order in this state". Three recruiters have tried to find any trace of my record that I know SHOULD be there.
THE HARD DECISION:
I was told by my recruiter that they cant find ANYTHING other than a few minor traffic tickets so there must be nothing on my record! He then said it is my choice to go back to MEPS to sign my contract and swear in if i so choose to do so.
Should I risk it eventually turning up and getting kicked out? I am getting old and time is running out. I think this may be the one chance I get in my life. Your thoughts and Opinions please! My father, Air Force Captain, said I should go for it because this is my one shot and all I have to fear is getting kicked out and sent back home. PLEASE HELP!!
12-26-09, 08:10 AM #2
If it ain't there, it ain't there. Go by the advice of your recruiter. Do you have something to gain by not trying?
12-26-09, 08:14 AM #3
I appreciate your advice Marine. I want to sign but worried it may show up in FBI checks and I get seperated with Fraudulent Enlistment and RE-4. I would be embarrassed and upset after everything ive done. I also would need to change my enlistment paperwork where it asks about police involvement which I am worried about MEPS catching and asking "why did you change this answer from yes to no?"
12-26-09, 08:17 AM #4
"why did you change this answer from yes to no?"
Tell the truth at MEPS.
12-26-09, 08:36 AM #5
I completely understand BUT... I believe they would DQ me till they get some type of paperwork and since I can not get ANY paperwork from juvenile department without being in person with a court order, I would be screwed. Maybe I am making this more complicated than it is? It's been recommended to not mention it since there is no record.
12-26-09, 09:07 AM #6
Admit it. If the recruiters can't find it, that isn't your fault. Perhaps if you were investigated for a top secret clearance it might be found, but if so, you already admitted to the potential existence. You told the truth and it isn't your fault the state makes it so hard to review juvenile records.
If you need a waiver, the recruiters should be reporting their inability to locate any such records as part of the waiver package. Your butt is covered.
Plus, since it's YOUR record, I don't know why YOU would need a court order.
12-26-09, 09:11 AM #7
2) California will NOT release ANY juvenile records to anyone but the actual person with the record unless court ordered and in person at the actual window with picture ID and signature.
12-26-09, 11:09 AM #8
It's better to tell whoever you need to tell, your recruiter and those at MEPS who need to know, about your problem and cover your a$$. This way, everything is documented that a backgraound check was done with nothing coming up, and you won't be discharged for fraudulent enlistment.
It would really suck that if you got through most of boot camp and then got kicked out for fraudulent enlistment by withholding info.
It's better to be safe than sorry!
12-26-09, 11:21 AM #9
WMarine, you are absolutely right but they would then require a moral felony waiver if that is what I say I have on my juvenile record, and then I would NOT get in. correct?
12-26-09, 11:44 AM #10
Most of us Marines here on Leatherneck aren't recruiters, and that's who you need to be talking with. We can't tell you if you'll be needing a waiver or not, we can only give you advice on what to do.
Check this site out on Criminal waivers........
Personally, if it were me, I would rather get the waiver than being discharged for fraudulent enlistment. It may take a bit longer to obtain the waiver, if needed, but in the end, it would be worth it!
As I said before, it's better to be safe than sorry.
12-26-09, 11:48 AM #11
Totally understand and I was told by my recruiter that they cant find anything, so there is nothing, which means I wont need a waiver if I leave it at that and not bring it up. That is what I am torn up about.
12-26-09, 01:18 PM #12
Well, don't know what other advice to give you. If your recruiter says it's not there, then it's not there. Just to cover your own arse, do mention it at MEPS. Have it all documented so that it won't come back to bite you in the butt.
12-26-09, 06:13 PM #13
Disclose the arrest. Unless you KNOW FOR SURE that it was a felony (there are different catagories of Burglary and some aren't felony charges, others are), then just tell the MEPS folks about it and go from there. Tell them the recruiters have been unable to locate anything.
I think you'll be fine. The biggest question will be "Were you convicted?"
If the answer was no, then that, as they say, is that. No worries.
I weep for what this country is becoming, and fear for my children and grandchildren's future if any more democrats gain national office. We lose more and more freedoms every single day to creeping nannystatism and those who vote for Democrats only want to increase that. Anyone voting for a 'dem' is someone who likely wants to take everything YOU have worked for and mortgage your kids future as well.
The Malignant Leprechaun
12-26-09, 06:23 PM #14
Have you tried personally going to the court/police station/etc. to have the record pulled?
Also, were you put on probation?
12-26-09, 07:17 PM #15
Kickin this dead horse is just giving me a dirty boot. Appears to be givin more advice than takin.
I'm kinda done with your attention quota for the day.
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