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    Will they bother?

    Joining the military has always been in the back of my head. Specifically the Marine Corps becuase my grandfather served at the end of WWII (only the occupation of Japan,they dropped the bomb shortly after he got out of bootcamp)

    However, I recently had a major **** up. I understand that I made a huge mistake and wont deny it, I know what I was doing was wrong and was acting like a scumbag.Hell, I wasn't acting like a scumbag; I am a scumbag. Now I'm looking to make a major change in my life for the better.

    I figure joining now (if i can) would be the best way to get my life on track and push me into adulthood. I plan on talking to a recruiter soon but won't have a chance till next week and am dieing just to hear something about my odds of enlisting.

    I HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD.
    Theft 3rd- as a juvenile, shoplifting. completed diversion program.

    Just recently charged on 10/25/09 with:
    Poss. Marijuana under 40grams
    Minor in possession of alcohol
    Theft 3rd
    Car Prowling

    I haven't been convicted of any of these yet. I was hoping I could maybe lay-out my situation and intent to enlist to the judge, prosecutor and maybe have them conditionally dismiss the charges if in enlist within X amount of days with the option to refile if I don't.

    I believe all but the Poss. of marijuana under 40 grams are gross misdemeanor and the Poss. is a misdemeanor.

    My question is will the Marine Corps even think about touching me. I understand that I will most likely need a waiver even if the charges are dropped.

    Thank you,

    Marines.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefultom View Post
    Joining the military has always been in the back of my head. Specifically the Marine Corps becuase my grandfather served at the end of WWII (only the occupation of Japan,they dropped the bomb shortly after he got out of bootcamp)

    However, I recently had a major **** up. I understand that I made a huge mistake and wont deny it, I know what I was doing was wrong and was acting like a scumbag.Hell, I wasn't acting like a scumbag; I am a scumbag. Now I'm looking to make a major change in my life for the better.

    I figure joining now (if i can) would be the best way to get my life on track and push me into adulthood. I plan on talking to a recruiter soon but won't have a chance till next week and am dieing just to hear something about my odds of enlisting.

    I HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD.
    Theft 3rd- as a juvenile, shoplifting. completed diversion program.

    Just recently charged on 10/25/09 with:
    Poss. Marijuana under 40grams
    Minor in possession of alcohol
    Theft 3rd
    Car Prowling

    I haven't been convicted of any of these yet. I was hoping I could maybe lay-out my situation and intent to enlist to the judge, prosecutor and maybe have them conditionally dismiss the charges if in enlist within X amount of days with the option to refile if I don't.

    I believe all but the Poss. of marijuana under 40 grams are gross misdemeanor and the Poss. is a misdemeanor.

    My question is will the Marine Corps even think about touching me. I understand that I will most likely need a waiver even if the charges are dropped.

    Thank you,

    Marines.
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    You will be treated like a leper, especially now when people without criminal problems of any sort are lining up to get in.

    I won't even refer you to the Army since you have pending charges and they won't touch you either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefultom View Post

    I figure joining now (if i can) would be the best way to get my life on track and push me into adulthood. I plan on talking to a recruiter soon but won't have a chance till next week and am dieing just to hear something about my odds of enlisting.

    I haven't been convicted of any of these yet. I was hoping I could maybe lay-out my situation and intent to enlist to the judge, prosecutor and maybe have them conditionally dismiss the charges if in enlist within X amount of days with the option to refile if I don't.
    You need to take care of your issues first, and then go see a recruiter. If the courts were to allow you to enlist in exchange for your crimes being reduced or tossed aside, then this would only hurt the USMC in the long run, and it is not fair. This is not the 1950-60's. The USMC is not a get out of jail free card.

    It is interesting how you waited until you got into this trouble to decide to enlist. In the end when you are denied enlistment do not let this be a reason for you to ruin your life even more. You are heading down a dangerous road. Your record proves that. You made some mistakes and if not corrected they will lead to even bigger ones, so watch yourself.


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    I figured I would be a no-go for the Corps. Just trying to be optimistic.

    So do you all think the Army would be an option after I get my stuff taken care of?

    I finally made up my mind to enlist after I hit this trouble because it was really a wake up call. I now know that if I continue on this self destructive path the only uniform I will be wearing will say "state prison" on the back. Like I said above I see enlisting as a way to get myself on track and to continue my adult life as a productive citizen.

    It's a bummer, but I will live and carry on. Hopefully I will find a way to serve.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefultom View Post
    I figured I would be a no-go for the Corps. Just trying to be optimistic.

    So do you think the Army would be an option after I get my stuff taken care of?

    I finally made up my mind to enlist after I hit this trouble because it was really a wake up call. I now know that if I continue on this self destructive path the only uniform I will be wearing will say "state prison" on the back. Like I said above I see enlisting as a way to get myself on track and to continue my adult life as a productive citizen.

    It's a bummer, but I will live and carry on. Hopefully I will find a way to serve.
    Why do people think that we know all the answers to their questions.
    This is a Marine Coprs site. You'll have to go to an Army site and ask them.


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    I HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD.
    Theft 3rd- as a juvenile, shoplifting. completed diversion program.

    Just recently charged on 10/25/09 with:
    Poss. Marijuana under 40grams
    Minor in possession of alcohol
    Theft 3rd
    Car Prowling
    As stated you have to take of all this and be drug free to join any branch of service.

    None of the services tolerate a thief......this can potentially lead to bodily harm if you are caught and run into the wrong person that doesn't believe in politically correctness or is defending his family and home with a loaded firearm.

    Before you go to a recruiter of any branch or the judge you need to do a personal evaluation of yourself and truthfully ask if you are really willing to give up this lifestyle.....or are you only willing to stay straight to avoid the inevitable consequences that are coming down the pike?

    If the answer is NO stay on the street.....jails and prison systems offer the same thing as the Armed Services except very little in pay(Unless work release...and most of it goes for restitution) and three hots and a cot!

    But NO freedom......think about this for being 19 years old. Seven to life!



    Man In The Mirror


    When you get all you want and you struggle for pelf,

    and the world makes you king for a day,

    then go to the mirror and look at yourself

    and see what that man has to say.

    For it isn't your mother, your father or wife

    whose judgment upon you must pass,

    but the man, whose verdict counts most in your life

    is the one staring back from the glass.

    He's the fellow to please,

    never mind all the rest.

    For he's with you right to the end,

    and you've passed your most difficult test

    if the man in the glass is your friend.

    You may be like Jack Horner and "chisel" a plum,

    And think you're a wonderful guy,

    But the man in the glass says you're only a bum

    If you can't look him straight in the eye.

    You can fool the whole world,

    down the highway of years,

    and take pats on the back as you pass.

    But your final reward will be heartache and tears

    if you've cheated the man in the glass.





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    Quote Originally Posted by WMarine View Post
    Why do people think that we know all the answers to their questions.
    This is a Marine Corps site. You'll have to go to an Army site and ask them.
    I made a spelling error in my original post, my bad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WMarine View Post
    Why do people think that we know all the answers to their questions.
    This is a Marine Coprs site. You'll have to go to an Army site and ask them.
    I asked a simple question relating to the Army because another forum member mentioned the Army. It's very well possible that someone has had experience with Army recruitment process and their stance on potential members with a criminal history.

    Did I do any harm by asking a simple question? I've been lurking this forum for quite some while and it seems that a number of your posts are simply you jumping down some wannabees or poolees throat for simple trivial ****. Is it really necessary or constructive? Especially on an internet forum. It's not like we are in bootcamp, the fleet,or even a military base. IT IS the INTERNET!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Blooper View Post
    As stated you have to take of all this and be drug free to join any branch of service.

    None of the services tolerate a thief......this can potentially lead to bodily harm if you are caught and run into the wrong person that doesn't believe in politically correctness or is defending his family and home with a loaded firearm.

    Before you go to a recruiter of any branch or the judge you need to do a personal evaluation of yourself and truthfully ask if you are really willing to give up this lifestyle.....or are you only willing to stay straight to avoid the inevitable consequences that are coming down the pike?

    If the answer is NO stay on the street.....jails and prison systems offer the same thing as the Armed Services except very little in pay(Unless work release...and most of it goes for restitution) and three hots and a cot!


    Thanks for the constructive criticism. After getting busted I had to finally confront what I had become (theif) and I hate it. I really want to enlist now because I feel that it would allow me to shed this skin that I have and allow me to become someone different,someone I can be proud of. Whether that be a Marine or Soldier I will gladly take either instead of having to look at the "man in the mirror" and see myself as a theif.

    The consequences may be harsh (jail,prison,etc) but it is nothing compared to having live life feeling like a complete scumbag and having you family look at you the same way.
    Service in the military would allow me to feel better about myself and allow me to turn a new page in my life and end this chapter of being a dumbass, theiving, ****head.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefultom View Post
    I asked a simple question relating to the Army because another forum member mentioned the Army. It's very well possible that someone has had experience with Army recruitment process and their stance on potential members with a criminal history.

    Did I do any harm by asking a simple question? I've been lurking this forum for quite some while and it seems that a number of your posts are simply you jumping down some wannabees or poolees throat for simple trivial ****. Is it really necessary or constructive? Especially on an internet forum. It's not like we are in bootcamp, the fleet,or even a military base. IT IS the INTERNET!
    I'd watch your tone there.
    Questions like yours are always being asked. We're not Recruiters here.
    You asked a question and I gave you an answer. You don't like the answer I gave you, then oh well.
    This may be the internet, but this is also a Marine Corps site, and you are just a guest here. Show respect when talking to Marines whether you like the answers that are given or not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WMarine View Post
    I'd watch your tone there.
    Questions like yours are always being asked. We're not Recruiters here.
    You asked a question and I gave you an answer. You don't like the answer I gave you, then oh well.
    This may be the internet, but this is also a Marine Corps site, and you are just a guest here. Show respect when talking to Marines whether you like the answers that are given or not.
    Where was I disrespectful? I simply pointed out that many of your "answers" are not constructive.

    If an answer isn't constructive then whats the use? To annoy/humiliate, if thats what you enjoy doing let me know so I can simply disregard any future replies from your screen name.

    If you hate the recruitment questions why bother to take the time to read/answer them?


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    First, I didn't say you were disrespectful. I said show respect when talking to Marines.
    Second, learn to keep your mouth shout. This kind of attitude will always get you in trouble.
    Third, some of my posts may or may not be constructive criticism because of wannabes and poolees with attitudes.
    Fourth, never said I hate recruitment questions. It's when young men and women come in here and ask questions like yours that have been in some type of trouble with the law, they are looking for answers that at times, only a Recruiter can answer, and again, we aren't Recruiters.
    Fifth, you want an honest answer to your question, then go and talk with a Recruiter.

    Now, on that note...just drop it and leave it alone.


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    Kinda makes me wonder how serious this issue is, as it appears bad, especially since you 'got religion' less than a week after you last boo-boo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAlHolmes165 View Post
    Kinda makes me wonder how serious this issue is, as it appears bad, especially since you 'got religion' less than a week after you last boo-boo.
    I'm most likely facing probation as none of them are felonies, and have no priors as an adult.

    After spending a weekend in jail I realized that it would suck major ass to go through life in and out of jail. Also seeing how it effected my family really bothered me. My mom was really busted up, I could tell that if I ever had to go away to prison for serious time it would put her in the grave. One of the main reasons why i'm gonna straighten my life out.


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