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02-09-09, 05:27 PM #31
Don't worry Doc- let the MG gorillas thin 'em out from afar and there will still be some up close and personal work to do!
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02-09-09, 08:04 PM #32
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02-10-09, 07:00 AM #33
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02-24-09, 02:45 PM #34
You're thinking of Sergeant York.
There's a famous story where his position is being overrun by Germans and he starts picking them off, one by one, from the back.
He later said he wanted to get them all, and if he hit the ones in front first he was afraid they'd turn and run.
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02-24-09, 03:03 PM #35
I found the story. From Alvin York's personal diary:
October 8th 1918
There were over thirty of them in continuous action, and all I could do was touch the Germans off just as fast as I could. I was sharpshooting. I don't think I missed a shot. It was no time to miss.
In order to sight me or to swing their machine guns on me, the Germans had to show their heads above the trench, and every time I saw a head I just touched it off. All the time I kept yelling at them to come down. I didn't want to kill any more than I had to. But it was they or I. And I was giving them the best I had.
Suddenly a German officer and five men jumped out of the trench and charged me with fixed bayonets. I changed to the old automatic and just touched them off too. I touched off the sixth man first, then the fifth, then the fourth, then the third and so on. I wanted them to keep coming.
I didn't want the rear ones to see me touching off the front ones. I was afraid they would drop down and pump a volley into me.
http://www.sgtyork.org/sgtyorkdiary.html
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02-24-09, 04:01 PM #36
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02-24-09, 06:31 PM #37
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02-24-09, 09:04 PM #38
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One of Hathcock's most famous accomplishments was shooting an enemy sniper through his scope, hitting him in the eye and killing him.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Hathcock
I don't know if it is actually true or not, but people say it is.
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02-24-09, 09:07 PM #39
Read Marine Sniper and Silent Warrior, GYSGT Hathcock was the Best of the Best, RIP Gunny.
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02-25-09, 12:35 AM #40
He certainly was the best sniper the Marine Corps had to offer.
Best of the best?
Not in my opinion.
There was a Finnish sniper with many more confirmed kills.
Gunny Hathcock did more the the Marine Corps by setting TTP's and SOP's
for snipers then he did by killing the enemy.
Certainly an amazing man and Marine though.
And that shot through the scope has been copied so many times it has lost
the affect of how amazing, and lucky, it really was.
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02-25-09, 12:44 AM #41
well I dis-agree with your opinion (I can do that, it's my opinion too!! haha) because the number of confirmed kills doesn't make you the best... I can pluck off bad guys from a distance too if I had their skills.
what made him the best of the best was his dedication and fearlessness in some seriously messed up situations. just read both of those books mentioned above and you'll start to see what I'm talking about... I mean the guy jumped in a LAV??? that was engulfed in flames without even thinking (LSD? naw...) and saved a Marine.
The man basically made a scout sniper program the modern American military has practically adopted.
and as I re-read one of your sentences about TTPs and SOPs I guess you understand my point, but I will go back and say again that it's not all about killing the enemy... anyone can do that if they keep going out of the wire.
and don't forget gunny hathcock was wounded and never deployed again after that... let's not judge his score over a career, that would do him not justice.
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02-25-09, 07:00 AM #42
You know Gunny Hathcock also had an answer for the confirmed killls, It's not how many kills you have had as a Sniper, it's how many Marines you have saved and if you loved killing you would have to be crazy, he added the most to being a sniper even when he left our beloved Corps, RIP Gunny.
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02-25-09, 07:03 AM #43
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