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    Pattyq, thanks. I don't think I can put him in the delayed entry program because of his age (16yr old). But I know I can have him meet the recuiter, if they would only call me back. I've never heard of a recuiter not calling a parent back, I've called this guy easily 4 to 5 times.

    But hopefully once we do hook-up, the recuiter will take him on short trips on to visit Camp Pendleton, which I'm only an hour away.

    Ee


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    You can't do it He can. Time to let go. Don't know what age they can join the delayed entry program, our son had just turned 17. He picked his date to leave, he could have left at 17 but he wanted to celbrate his 18th at home. Good luck to your son. It's not a bad choice


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elias B View Post
    Ok, so I had him what Full Metal Jack, which he liked allot, also told him about the mental trips, so he up to speed. Look's like he's good to go, just need to get his deplomia and hit 17 (in about 7 months).

    I can't wait to see how much he will change, and to see food in my cabinets, lol.

    What do do recruit make in boot camp?

    Ee

    You will be amazed at how much he will change into proud and self confident that will last all of his life. The paygrade is E1-private until
    he graduates boot camp as a Private First Class-E2. I don't know what
    the pay grades are now, perhaps some of the current Marines can
    tell you. You said he likes to fight, that is where the control comes in.
    He should know that he has to let the DI do anything he wants. In
    otherwords he is gonna eat a lot of S***.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pi 53 View Post
    You will be amazed at how much he will change into proud and self confident that will last all of his life. The paygrade is E1-private until
    he graduates boot camp as a Private First Class-E2. I don't know what
    the pay grades are now, perhaps some of the current Marines can
    tell you. You said he likes to fight, that is where the control comes in.
    He should know that he has to let the DI do anything he wants. In
    otherwords he is gonna eat a lot of S***.
    The DI's have done wonders will my Marine. Go to the Average HS Graduation & then go to PI or SD Graduation. It is nothing short of amazing what the Corps can accomplish with these once: spoiled, unappreciative, & sometime disrespectful recruits. (Just read a few before & after Ask a Marine or Poole Forums on this BLOG)


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    As for as the DI's, I've been explaining to him that that's where he needs to keep his mouth shut and eye's open. After talking to several people and watching some boot camp clips, I think he get's it, and knows he's not going to get away with anything. I also know that's one of the reason he wants to go, because usually he can talk his way out getting in trouble at school.

    I just can wait for him to enlist and head out to BC, but I've got at least 7 long months to wait. At least though we've meet the recuiter and he has gone over allot with him, about what the Marines are all about. Also had him do the AVABS (is that's how you spell it?) test which he passed, but he needs to work on getting a higher score.

    Ee


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    Hello, Elias

    Get your son on here for chat room and Sunday evening Poolee Hall meetings 2100 hours EST as a pre-poolee. Have him file out his profile just like the rest of the Marine Friends n Poolee's. I mentor plenty of young men and woman under the age of 17 in chat room etc.. I think pre poolee time gets them more prepared and its more automatic in a lot of the kids involved early rather than walking into the recruiter and shipping 2 weeks later for example. With you being at Lake Elsinor and less than an hour from Camp Pendleton. I am sure there are plenty of nieghbors or friends to include his uncle that are Marines or Former Marines to keep him Motovated. You may speak to Young Marines recruiter for local area meetings for Drill or see Marine recruiter for info on the Devil Pup program also.

    my 2 cents


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    I lost train a thought and dropped a very important note to mention.. I was a athelete and a personal trainer on all Marine sports programs... If your son has any talent at all with any sports he exels in. He will be looked at and an approuched by many from all levels of teams in Marine Corps Sports. I don't know about now a days back in the 80's and 90's you could be a full time athelete and be treated very well for your efforts as a team member whether it be Company, Base, Division, Regional or All Marine levels of sports. This is something else you can dangle for him to be Motovated for the Corps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndLAADBnWRENCH View Post
    I lost train a thought and dropped a very important note to mention.. I was a athelete and a personal trainer on all Marine sports programs... If your son has any talent at all with any sports he exels in. He will be looked at and an approuched by many from all levels of teams in Marine Corps Sports. I don't know about now a days back in the 80's and 90's you could be a full time athelete and be treated very well for your efforts as a team member whether it be Company, Base, Division, Regional or All Marine levels of sports. This is something else you can dangle for him to be Motovated for the Corps.
    You need to be very careful with that though because the needs of the Marine Corps come first. Your son will have no guaruntee that he will even be allowed to try out for those teams. If he goes to a unit with a continuous deployment cycle such as the one I was at, he may end up deploying 3+ times while he is there. It's ok to let him know about it but you can't promise anything in the Marine Corps except beans, bullets and bandaids.

    You might also consider taking him down to MCRD in San Diego and let him watch a graduation on a Friday. Talk about motivating!!! It would certainly give him perspective and allow him to know what he has to look forward to when he's getting run into the dirt by his DI's.


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    My 17 year old son is in DEP and they love it when my 16 year old son attends the functions with him. I don't know if they allow him to go because his brother is a poolee or just because but I didn't have to sign any kind of authorization for either of them to travel or participate in any of the activities with the recruiters. My 17 year old ships on June 15 and we are very nervous but really proud and excited for him!! I'm hoping that my 16 year old makes the decision to join as well. He's very undecided right now but I think the graduation in September may help him decide!!


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    It is so refreshing to see other parents so supportive! Good luck to you all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 0231Marine View Post
    You need to be very careful with that though because the needs of the Marine Corps come first. Your son will have no guaruntee that he will even be allowed to try out for those teams. If he goes to a unit with a continuous deployment cycle such as the one I was at, he may end up deploying 3+ times while he is there. It's ok to let him know about it but you can't promise anything in the Marine Corps except beans, bullets and bandaids.

    You might also consider taking him down to MCRD in San Diego and let him watch a graduation on a Friday. Talk about motivating!!! It would certainly give him perspective and allow him to know what he has to look forward to when he's getting run into the dirt by his DI's.
    0231 HAS A POINT???

    Your absolutly right without something in writing and the signee filing all the requerements to get the contract signed for by not fufilling his end a the deal. Ya still do what the Corps wants.
    Units do have the option to hold atheletic talent back and fill the line # and slot for there unit.. I found that a great worker with talent in his MOS and talent as an athelete gets the attention of some with rank and authority to cause things to happen. For example Joe Turd the rag man can do your job in the unit the days you are on the road and playing foot ball or rugby for the unit and somebody with rank and authority will trade his *****in an mowning for your talent and a win to expect and know that you will deliver in the unit and in the sport you represent for the unit. At the same time your show boating on the score board. Joe Turd the Rag Man is being schooled and watched and he may get better and loose the name to have the slot replaced by another of his kind or he is I think back in the day called a 6565 form to be processed out for the good of the Corps and not fit or ment to be in military life. Which in short he's doing the sea bag drag out the front gate way before his enlistment is up. At which time you return to the unit short handed and again show your stuff in your MOS and bust arse and make up for your time gone due to Joe Turd the Rag Man slacking off.


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    He would love to play football for the Marines, but that's not why he wants to go to the Marines. He's going for change, a furture and as he said "to become a man, dad". I keep thinking as a parent and telling him you need to study, and score high to get a really good MOS, and the reality is he wants to go in and become a grunt. So, recently I've stop fighting him, on what I want him to do, and now just supporting him, in what he wants to do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elias B View Post
    Yes, he is 16 (5'10" 205lbs) and I know he needs to be 17 with diploma, which is what he is working on now. I'm putting him in a program to let him graduate sooner, he dislike school and want to move on with his life.

    But as a dad of a 16yr. old boy (17 in 7 months), I love the idea. And know that it's what he wants to do, but should I make him wait another year? I know as of now he doesn’t want to go to college, even though he is a really good football player (LB/FB). And our neighborhood is not the greatest, and I don't want him getting a taco bell job, and hanging around.

    I just want to make sure that I'm asking all the right questions and covering every corner, because once you sign, that's a rap

    Ee



    Update on the kid:

    He is now 17 and 215pd, he had graduated from HS and passed his ASVAB, but with a very low score. He's also taken his physical and passed, so where set to sign his release this Saturday (1/3/10).

    Thing have turned out a little different than first thought,

    1. He's going in as a reserve, ASVAB score below 49. Turns out he wanted to go reserve anyway to go back to school (JC) and play football. He's learned that he needs to stay in school and that he still wants to play ball.

    2. The MOS he recieved is (no disrespect to anyone) Cook. At first I was ****ed and thought he could have at least been a rifleman, but turns out everyone is a rifleman. And because he wants to leave to boot asap, he has to take what's open. Also again because his ASVAB score was low, he does not qualifiy for anything else.

    In a nutshell things have turned out a little different but overall he's completed HS and is moving forward to becoming a MARINE!

    I'm really happy for him and know this will change him in many ways and can't wait to see the change in him.

    So, so far so good and I'll update as I can.



    Ee


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    Thanks for updating. You said a mouthful - Said it ALL (imp) when tou said "He will be a MARINE!"

    I don't know much about MOS in the Corps and what "status" is attached to each. I "think" my son's SDI was a cook. My point is that succeedding in becoming a MARINE opens all sorts of doors.

    But, you already know that.

    Congrats.


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    Same sceniero many moons ago
    I went early and was glad for it (after the initial shock)
    The crowd i hung with in early teens-half of them were in prison or jail before I
    was on boot leave--------


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