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09-29-09, 04:29 PM #31
well, yeah. they still issue those in Boot Camp, but I was wondering what this talk about building the cover is all about. I'm slightly confused. 75% of the MC uses the kingform covers.
09-29-09, 04:41 PM #32
09-29-09, 04:45 PM #33
one is a leather band and a different angle for the EGA on the front while the other is cardboard band with a more vertical angle for the EGA.
09-29-09, 04:53 PM #34
Just checked mine again, looks like it has a fake leather wrapped heavy plastic head band, no wonder it hurts like a b1tch after 10 minutes, and the EGA is slanted foward, looks sharp though.
09-29-09, 07:52 PM #35
nice... so you never bought a new one huh...
09-30-09, 12:44 AM #36
currently i wear a kingform, it looks great and all.
But i just love how crisp 8th & I covers look. from what i hear they use a regular frame and cloth cap, but they build them differently to look clean and sharp.
09-30-09, 05:16 AM #37
09-30-09, 02:21 PM #38
that's the way to do it!!! haha.
usually people buy a standard cab and have it loaded with junk (me) so you can give people lifts!
09-30-09, 03:53 PM #39
fespar...you should just purchase the cover and ship it out to one of us former 8th & I marines and we'll whip it into shape for you.
While on the Drill Team, my cotton cover was washed twice a week. Each time, it remained partially damp from the incomplete drying. This allowed me to stretch it with the double halo frame I constructed. We always used to halo frames but removed the angle-mount bar from the second. A wire clothes hanger was clipped just long enough to form a crescent half circle on each end that was wrapped around each emblem post over each ear. The hanger (cheat bar) went from each post around the front of the cover-bill. This allowed us to force the entire cover into a pinching form that fit our individual heads and helped in forming the dip in the cover. Once I inserted the reinforced halo's into the clothe cover, I then inserted the one remaining halo mounting bar into its holder on the cover. Then I would stretch the clothe over the entire cover. The washing usually shrinks the material a bit, so thats why you do everything while it is still a bit damp. Over time we would get a bit of rust forming from the wire hanger (cheat bar). If it was significant, we would use white chalk to cover it up, or just get a new clothe cover. Keep in mind that each new clothe cover would usually be washed several times before it was workable on the cover. Most of us had several of them so we would have overlap when one got torn from the front site post or stained or rusted from grass or cheat bar.
Most important is the fact that our covers on the Drill Team were not very comfortable. As "8th & I Marine" stated, every marching marine kept plastic in the top of the cover to keep you from sweating through the cover. We also put tape in on the plastic so our covers would stick to our heads. This was just another way to avoid your cover from getting knocked off or blowing off in the wind. Most of us would have red impression marks on our foreheads by the time we took them off. Again, we built them for looks and staying power only, not comfort.
I still have mine. If I get around to getting into storage, I'll pull it out and take some pictures for you if you wish.
09-30-09, 04:15 PM #40
that would be nice if you could take a photo of it.
09-30-09, 04:39 PM #41
Give me 'til the weekend and I'll load it up.
12-26-10, 04:49 PM #42
Please forgive the discoloration and the age to the visor; the cover is almost 25 years old. It is the same one I am wearing in my avatar.
Apparently I can only attach five files at a time so I will attach the rest in another post.
12-26-10, 04:54 PM #43
Here is the second set showing the double halo and the hanger wire.
The last photo is of me at the War Memorial practicing for the 1989 NCO Parade, where I was the Adjutant. That's the same cover in this photo as well.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: I had forgotten to mention in my first post that we also used thumbtacks behind the chin strap (see photo #4) to keep the cloth cover from creeping up and to keep it taut and straight.
Last edited by SergeantSlayton; 12-26-10 at 04:56 PM. Reason: Additional information
12-26-10, 06:35 PM #44
Thanks a lot! I appreciate your help very much!
12-26-10, 06:50 PM #45
You are welcome.
I had forgotten to mention but Bdchi1 had, was that we would have to wash the cloth cover at least once or twice a week in order to to keep it clean. Unlike Bdchi1 I was not a member of the marching companies but was assigned to MCI Company. I marched in three NCO Parades and was the Time Orderly/Flag Popper for both the Evening Parades and the Sunset Parades during my time at 8th and I (1986 - 1989).
Also, we bought cloth covers one size smaller than the cover frame for it to fit even tighter (example: frame = 6-1/4; cover = 6-1/8). That, and assembling it while still wet and allowing it to dry made it tight as a drum. I used to have an adapter for my clothes dryer that was a little shelf designed for tennis shoes to sit on (to keep them from tumbling) that I would place my assembled cover on and let it dry in the dryer.
You had mentioned you were enlisted 30 years ago - sounds like you were in during the time was.
I noticed that the photos uploaded to this website are small - would you like me to email the full size copies directly to you? If so just give me the address and I will send them ASAP.
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