SOI Training And ITB West

[NoRegrets]

I was reading a older post from here that said that soi as a 03xx really sucks and if you are a reservists you are really treated like crap. Is this true?

Marie

[Gator347]

SOI consists of Marine Combat Training and Infantry Training Battalion, which have both added a week to their training schedule. MCT, originally 22 days, is now 29 and ITB changed from 52 days to 59.

It seems that ALL the schools are fairly rough. My son's MOS (1142) at Lejuene was not real pleasant and he was a POG (Personell Other than Grunt).

Things did not lighten-up until he got in the FLEET.

[NoRegrets]

SOI consists of Marine Combat Training and Infantry Training Battalion, which have both added a week to their training schedule. MCT, originally 22 days, is now 29 and ITB changed from 52 days to 59.

It seems that ALL the schools are fairly rough. My son's MOS (1142) at Lejuene was not real pleasant and he was a POG (Personell Other than Grunt).

Things did not lighten-up until he got in the FLEET.

Here is the post I was reading, do you agree with what is said? Accord said the most!

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=51966

Marie

[kbs95125]

I'm a reservist and I got treated the same as everyone else. Always have been.

SOI is what you make of it, some people hated it more then boot camp, others didn't really let it bother them. Its just another part of training to make you a better Marine.

[NoRegrets]

I'm a reservist and I got treated the same as everyone else. Always have been.

SOI is what you make of it, some people hated it more then boot camp, others didn't really let it bother them. Its just another part of training to make you a better Marine.

So you are home now? Have you been deployed yet?

Marie

[Cudadad]

My son refered to SOI/MCT as Boot Camp phase 4. I really think it depends on the Marine and the instructors.

[NoRegrets]

Well week 2 at ITB and my Son says it hard but does enjoy some of it. I guess they run everywhere and sleep in the field all week. Weekends they get libbo if they do good.He got hurt last week by a flying shell from another Marines weapon. Landed on my Sons neck for a few seconds and he has some scars to show for it in the future What really sucks is if they get hurt they have to start all over not where they left off in training..

Marie

Does anyone have the recent matrix for CP/CA?

[harris88]

your son will be fine mam soi is hard but its hard for a reason

[MarineNCO]

Here is the post I was reading, do you agree with what is said? Accord said the most!

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=51966

Marie

Alot of what wasn't said in that post is how the students act. One Marine can screw it up for the entire platoon/company.

Example: Marine A loses a canteen. So everyone has to get online and show their canteens. It is found that 5 Marines do not have both canteens....Gear Inspection time.

So those Marines that didn't or can't keep track of their gear just made the other Marines have to work harder. Not to mention the training/off time lost due to having to conduct the gear inspection. This irritates instructors because they have a set schedule down to the 1/2 hour of where the students need to be and what they need to be doing.

This leads to alot of tension/stress for the instructors because if something goes wrong they have to answer to "The Man" for it. So yes, Marines aren't treated as they would be once they hit their permanent duty station. At the same time they aren't treated as if they are fresh recruits either.

[MarineNCO]

*Tried to edit the above post but you can't edit after 5 minutes and it took me 10 to add to it*

Most Marines will never see what goes on behind the scenes. I doubt if any of them know there is an S-3 (Training Operations) section in each Training Battalion or that there is a School S-3 (Regimental S-3 for you fleet Marines). They do not see the amount of planning it takes just to move a company of Marines from Camp Geiger to Camp Devil Dog. Alot of rules have to be followed and each Marine has to be accounted for.

Motor-Transport: Marines involved at S-4, S-3, Motor-T section, Fuel section.

Range details: S-4, S-3, Motor-T, Safety Officers and Range Personnel (Camp Lejeune and Camp Geiger), Armory Personnel, Ammmunition Personnel (Both at Camp Lejeune and Camp Geiger)

I hope you get the picture.

Most Marines will appreciate how much time the instructors spend with the platoon as a whole and on an individual basis until they have to start dealing with their own Marines. When you spend 3 hours counseling a Marine because his/her Girlfriend/Boyfriend broke up with themm or Mom and Dad got a divorce or some other momentous occassion then you may see where I am coming from. And it doesn't stop there. From that point on you have to help that Marine and check on them to make sure things are going ok. They also do not realize how the Instructors do their best within the means and abilities given to them to make sure each Marine understands and can apply the training. So alot of time and in some cases emotion is invested. People don't realize this as they go through training. They just look at the negative aspects of it and say "SOI SUCKS".

In closing I have thos to say: The world is what you make of it. If you only focus on the negative your world will be a very drab and dreary place to live.

[DAMNPROUD]

NCO you said it all in your last lines!

keith

[NoRegrets]

*Tried to edit the above post but you can't edit after 5 minutes and it took me 10 to add to it*

Most Marines will never see what goes on behind the scenes. I doubt if any of them know there is an S-3 (Training Operations) section in each Training Battalion or that there is a School S-3 (Regimental S-3 for you fleet Marines). They do not see the amount of planning it takes just to move a company of Marines from Camp Geiger to Camp Devil Dog. Alot of rules have to be followed and each Marine has to be accounted for.

Motor-Transport: Marines involved at S-4, S-3, Motor-T section, Fuel section.

Range details: S-4, S-3, Motor-T, Safety Officers and Range Personnel (Camp Lejeune and Camp Geiger), Armory Personnel, Ammmunition Personnel (Both at Camp Lejeune and Camp Geiger)

I hope you get the picture.

Most Marines will appreciate how much time the instructors spend with the platoon as a whole and on an individual basis until they have to start dealing with their own Marines. When you spend 3 hours counseling a Marine because his/her Girlfriend/Boyfriend broke up with themm or Mom and Dad got a divorce or some other momentous occassion then you may see where I am coming from. And it doesn't stop there. From that point on you have to help that Marine and check on them to make sure things are going ok. They also do not realize how the Instructors do their best within the means and abilities given to them to make sure each Marine understands and can apply the training. So alot of time and in some cases emotion is invested. People don't realize this as they go through training. They just look at the negative aspects of it and say "SOI SUCKS".

In closing I have thos to say: The world is what you make of it. If you only focus on the negative your world will be a very drab and dreary place to live.

He has never said he sucks I think he was just worried about starting over. Trust me he gives it 100%+...He is a smaller guy but won't give up and doesn't whine. Now Mom on the other hand worries but I support what he is doing

Marie

[ScottsMom]

My son said that SOI was tough, a lot tougher than Boot Camp. He enjoyed SOI and was a little sad to see it end.....

[NoRegrets]

My Son is in his 5th week at ITB and last night I found out he made squad leader I am very proud of him

Marie

[redboxercasino]

looking for pfc michael giovingo jr. soi,should grad soon,if know whereabouts send me an e-mail at michaelyounghls@yahoo.com,,semper fi.