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  1. #46
    I had my NDM status checked before I left the Army National Guard for retirement. I rated the first one because I served during the Vietnam War era. I rated the second one because my Gurad unit was activted, but we stood down before being sent to Desert Storm. I rated the third one because I was activated for 18 months to do a tour in Iraq. So my retirement DD214 has NDSM (3). After 41 years, I'll wear it with 2 stars.


  2. #47
    THAT is cool. Not too many of you folks around to be sure.


  3. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by William Hardy View Post
    I had my NDM status checked before I left the Army National Guard for retirement. I rated the first one because I served during the Vietnam War era. I rated the second one because my Gurad unit was activted, but we stood down before being sent to Desert Storm. I rated the third one because I was activated for 18 months to do a tour in Iraq. So my retirement DD214 has NDSM (3). After 41 years, I'll wear it with 2 stars.

    I know this thread is a sticky and old, but I just wanted to tip my hat to you Gunny, Semper Fi Brother


  4. #49
    yes why question ribbons unless you're the ribbon police. I served from 1978 to 1993 and I was awarded ribbon I have'nt received to this day. So can someone tell me who can help or assist in getting me what I deserved. Beside a hard time I served with honor too.


  5. #50
    Go to

    Marine CorpsWhere to write for medalsNavy Personnel Command
    Liaison Office Room 5409
    9700 Page Avenue
    St. Louis, MO 63132-5100Where medals are mailed fromNavy Personnel Command
    Liaison Office Room 5409
    9700 Page Avenue
    St. Louis, MO 63132-5100Where to write in case of a problem
    or an appealCommandant of the Marine Corps
    Military Awards Branch (MMMA)
    3280 Russell Road
    Quantico VA 22134-5100

    http://www.archives.gov/veterans/mil...ls.html#marine

    The information you need is there.


  6. #51

    left active duty and returned during the same period of eligibility.??

    i was in us army in march 2007 and get out dec 2007. My dd214 have national defense service medal... and now i received other from usmc. Can you explain what means: "left active duty and returned during the same period of eligibility." and if can i meet all requeriments?











    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Leprechaun View Post
    Here is the criteria for the National Defense Service Medal. Called "The firewatch medal" by Vietnam era veterans, "The pizza stain" by Desert Storm era veterans.

    One of the most common medals seen on Marines (and military members, period), since it merely requires graduation of recruit training and/or time on active duty.

    All award criteria listed are from the Department of the Navy's Website, which has not been updated in some cases.

    http://www.history.navy.mil/medals/index.html

    But...because I'm a nice guy (LOL) I'll post them, as well as medal pics. Makes it easier on everyone.

    Here is the criteria:

    *******
    The National Defense Service Medal will be awarded to all persons in the Naval service who served on active duty at any time between 27 June 1950 and 27 July 1954. All personnel serving on active duty during the above period are eligible for this award with the exception of reserve personnel on active duty for training, reserve personnel on short tours of active duty to serve on boards, courts, commissions, etc., and any persons ordered to active duty who, on physical examination incident thereto, are disqualified and immediately released from active duty. (Executive Order No. 10448 of 22 April 1953 and Department of Defense Directive 1348.7 of 15 July 1953.)


    Designed by the Army's Institute of Heraldry in Cameron Station, Va., the first medals were issued during the Korean War era and note active federal service performed as part of normal extended duty between 27 June 1950 and 27 July 1954, both dates inclusive.

    The next period of eligibility coincided with that of the Vietnam War, with duty between 01 Jan. 1961 and 14 Aug. 1974 being the criteria for the award, both dates inclusive. This amended period of eligibility was established by Executive Order 11265 of 11 January 1966.

    The next period of award encompasses Southwest Asia service, with eligibility beginning 02 Aug. 1990, based on Executive Order 12776 from President George Bush on 18 October 1991. The terminal eligibility date for this period later was set as 30 Nov. 1995. The final period of award eligibility encompasses the War on Terror, with eligibility beginning 11 September 2001 and not yet ended. The NDSM was reinstated by memorandum from The Deputy Secretary of Defense, dated 26 April 2002, from 11 September 2001 to a termination date to be determined in the future.
    ****
    Miscellenous facts:

    Interestingly, because of the expanded role of military reservists in "Desert Shield" and "Desert Storm," President Bush's executive order extended the medal's award to those drilling members of the Selected Reserve.

    Sailors and Marines with active duty in two or more of the periods wear a small bronze service star on the ribbon for each additional eligibility period.

    Any member of the Naval Reserve who, after 31 December 1960, becomes eligible for the award of the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal or the Vietnam Service Medal, is also eligible for award of the National Defense Service Medal.*****

    Eligibility, General:

    For the purpose of the award, the following persons will NOT be considered as performing active service:
    (1) Guard and Reserve forces personnel on short tours of duty to fulfill training obligations under an inactive duty training program.
    (2) Any person on active duty for the sole purpose of undergoing a physical examination.
    (3) Any person on temporary active duty to serve on boards, courts, commissions and like organizations or on active duty for purposes other than extended active duty.

    (4) A one time only exception, for members of the Army National Guard and United States Army Reserve, who were part of the selected reserve in good standing, was authorized, per executive orders 12778, dated 18 October 1991, for the period 2 August 1990 to 30 November 1995.

    b. The National Defense Service Medal may be awarded to members of the Reserve Components who are ordered to Federal active duty, regardless of duration, except for the categories listed above.

    c. To signify receipt of a second or subsequent award of the NDSM, a bronze service star will be worn on the service ribbon by those so qualified. Second or third award of the NDSM is authorized for those who served in one or more of the four qualifying time periods. It is not authorized for those who met the criteria in one time period, left active duty and returned during the same period of eligibility.
    d. Cadets of the U.S. Military Academy are eligible for the NDSM, during any of the inclusive periods listed above, upon completion of the swearing-in ceremonies as a cadet.
    e. The NDSM may be issued posthumously.



  7. #52
    I have difficulty understanding your question (due in part to horrible grammar and disjointed sentences).

    You say you served in the Army for enough time to get the NDSM. Now you are a Marine. You do not rate another NDSM for serving again, the eligibility period is a 'one time only' shot no matter how many branches you serve in.

    Not trying to be difficult but your question is hard to understand.


  8. #53
    The quick answer is simple
    There are 3 recent times of eligibility for current members
    1. Vietnam Era
    2. Desert Storm
    3. Current War on Terror (Iraq & Afghan.)

    I am assuming that you only rate 1 NDM because you served in two branches during one time of national emergency...The current War on Terror.

    For the "way older vets" they may over lap WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Being an "older vet", I overlap Vietnam, Desert Storm, and Iraq. Some of the younger ones rate two awards since they overlap Desert Storm and the War on Terror. Some like yourself rate just the one because you have served during the War on Terror. The number of services you have been enlisted in has no bearing on the number of NDM you get, just times of national emergency.


  9. #54
    Thanks, Gunny. (I rate a star on my NDSM for that reason).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Leprechaun View Post
    I have difficulty understanding your question (due in part to horrible grammar and disjointed sentences).

    You say you served in the Army for enough time to get the NDSM. Now you are a Marine. You do not rate another NDSM for serving again, the eligibility period is a 'one time only' shot no matter how many branches you serve in.

    Not trying to be difficult but your question is hard to understand.
    ... and he is in Administration. Go figure.


  11. #56
    Is it just ME? Am I being a 'grammar Nazi'??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Leprechaun View Post
    Is it just ME? Am I being a 'grammar Nazi'??
    Nope, but allowing this **** to continue, or allowing posters to post, AND get answers, or whatever, without a proper profile, will only encourage them.


  13. #58
    True. I try not to be an azzhole out of the chute, cause I hate that crap for the most part when I'm new on a site...but still....dammmmit, rules are rules....


  14. #59
    Not That It Matter , But Iwas Active Duty During Desert Sheild/storm. I Know This Is Stupid Question But Would You Wear A Star With The Ribbon Probly Not.


  15. #60
    Doc - you get a NDSM for serving during Desert Shield/Storm. No star unless you were also in during the War on Terror. The dates are listed in the earlier post on this page.


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