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07-26-02, 04:25 PM #1
What, If Any, Is The Connection Between James Traficant and The Corps???
...I've noticed in numerous media images, that James Traficant, the former U.S. Representative, always wears a small Marine Corps Emblem on his lapel. Does anyone here know the connection? His bio doesn't mention any military service.
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07-26-02, 04:39 PM #2
Don't know why? He may be a wannabe!
His autobigraphy has no reference to having served in the military.
Biographical Data For
Representative James A. 'Jim' Traficant Jr. Biographical
Campaign Finances
Issue Positions (NPAT)
Special Interest Groups
Voting Record
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Current Office: United States House of Representatives
Current District: 17
Name: Representative James A. 'Jim' Traficant Jr.
Party: Democrat
Gender: Male
Family: Wife: Patricia Choppa; 2 Children.
Birth Date: 05/08/41
Birth Place: Youngstown, OH
Home City: Poland, OH
Religion: Roman Catholic
Educational Experience:
MS, Counseling, Youngstown State University, 1976
MS, Administration, Youngstown State University, 1973
BS, Education, University of Pittsburgh, 1963.
Professional Experience:
Executive Director, Mahoning County Drug Program, Inc, 1971-1981
Consumer Finance Direcor, Youngstown Community Action Program
Instructor, Classes on Drugs and Alcohol, Colleges, Police Forces
Girard Life Insurance.
First Elected: 11/06/84
Last Elected: 11/07/00
Congressional Election 2000
Votes Received: 120333
Percent of Votes Received: 50.00%
Next Election: 2002
Political Experience:
Mahoning County Sheriff, 1981-1985.
Roll Call Vote Analysis:
Year Voting Participation Party Support Presidential Support
2001 98% 9% 81%
2000 100% 22% 32%
1999 99% 43% 44%
1998 97% 32% 46%
1997 99% 23% 36%
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07-26-02, 06:12 PM #3
With hair like that...
I sure hope he's not a former Marine.
Maybe he's just a supporter.
We have FANS you know
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07-26-02, 06:22 PM #4
And He Rates Wearing...
...The Eagle, Globe and Anchor because he's a fan?!?
Maybe he's just a supporter. We have FANS you know
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07-26-02, 06:47 PM #5
Well it's just a pin. I mean I don't see anything wrong
with someone wearing an Eagle, Globe, and Anchor
pin. I mean if my dad wore a pin supporting the
Marine Corps I sure wouldn't jump on him for that.
I'd be proud, but maybe that's just me. It's like saying
a U.S. resident can't wear an American Flag pin because
they're not a citizen of the U.S...now would that be right?
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07-26-02, 10:09 PM #6
Re: What, If Any, Is The Connection Between James Traficant and The Corps???
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TeufelHunden
[B]...I've noticed in numerous media images, that James Traficant, the former U.S. Representative, always wears a small Marine Corps Emblem on his lapel. Does anyone here know the connection? His bio doesn't mention any military service.
James Traficant,
maverick Ohio Congressman, was found guilty of bribery, racketeering, tax evasion, and obstruction of justice in April. In all, he was convicted on 10 federal charges and faces up to 63 years in jail. Traficant flamboyantly defended himself in court, though he does not have a law degree. In addition, he faces expulsion from the U.S. House of Representatives.
Found nothing that indicated this man was in any Military Service!
SF
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07-27-02, 06:40 AM #7
Maybe he is a friend of the Marines in Legislative Affairs
Headquarters Marine Corps has an office that responds to legislative inquiries and other requests for information from congressional members. The Office of Legislative Affairs from time-to-time gives out small gifts to these elected officials to keep them pro-Marine. Maybe someone gave him this emblem to let him know the Marines can help him learn the value of honor, courage and commitment.
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07-27-02, 06:56 AM #8
I Guess I'm In The Minority Then...
...Myself & thousands before and since have busted their asses to earn the right to wear the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. Many of those same thousands bled and died in service of that same Eagle, Globe and Anchor.
It's one thing to wear a hat, t-shirt, or any other commercially available product with the Eagle, Globe and Anchor incorporated thereon - It's a completely different thing altogether IMO, to wear what appears to me to be a collar emblem for a Dress Blues uniform.
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07-27-02, 10:09 AM #9
I agree with you TeufelHunden
The emblem represents integrity, honesty, courage and honor what the former congressman has never learned.
A good grunt would have told him to remove it. Then if he didn't the grunt would have knocked the sh!t out of the congressman.
Just my opinion.
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07-27-02, 10:22 AM #10
I agree
I am not saying it is at all right for the congressman to be wearing the emblem. I was merely giving an example of how he may have come into possession of one. I am not a big fan of "honorary Marines" or similar titles being cast on those who have not served as Marines. We are all taught the pride associated with wearing this emblem. It comes from a long and storied past of Marine sacrifices and heroism that enabled the breed to flourish. I hardly think the congressman is part of our breed.
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07-27-02, 01:27 PM #11
Teufel and Sparrow I know what you're saying and do agree
with you but like I said, it just looks like a pin to me. I mean
if it's straight out a pin just issued to Marines then I'd understand,
but I've seen pins like that out in town wear they sell military
pins for anyone to buy. I mean if this guy is a sh!tbird, okay I can
understand it, but like I said I wouldn't have a problem if I saw
a supportive parent or friend wearing a Marine Pin in support
of the Marine Corps, but I do understand your feeling on the
Eagle, Globe and Anchor and who should wear it and who
shouldn't...I AM a Marine you know
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07-27-02, 03:59 PM #12
LL, you made that too easy, darlin.
Take a look at the logic structure of that statement. No wonder ya ****ing folks off alla time! Rethink yer strategy, darlin. That statement won't even work for me! Either they earned it or they didn't in my opinion. But I could be wrong......NOT!
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07-27-02, 04:08 PM #13
Bottom Line...
...In this Marine's humble opinion...
Graduate Marine Corps Bootcamp or OCS = Rate to wear the Eagle, Globe and Anchor.
I can tell you this - If my own father (or anyone else in my family for that matter), who could not be prouder of his Marine son, to this day & I've been out 5+ years, decided to sport an Eagle, Globe and Anchor lapel pin such as the one pictured - You can bet your asses I'd call him on it, with the end result being either he stopped (which I'm sure he would once he understood why, which he does) -OR- This Marine would end up getting written outa the will.
Not trying to be confrontational y'all, this is just a pet peave of mine.
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07-27-02, 04:19 PM #14
THE IDIOT IS A SCUMBAG, OF THE WORST KIND!
BY WEARING THAT EMBLEM WHILE HE MAKES AN AZZ OF HIMSELF ON NATIONAL TV, AND BEFORE CONGRESS WITH HIS DUMBSH.T STATEMENTS AND REMARKS HE IS ASSOCIATING HIMSELF WITH THE MARINE CORPS...
AND THAT'S THE IMAGE THAT IS LEFT ON THE DUMB PUBLIC!
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07-27-02, 04:26 PM #15
Re: THE IDIOT IS A SCUMBAG, OF THE WORST KIND!
Originally posted by Rat Patrol
BY WEARING THAT EMBLEM WHILE HE MAKES AN AZZ OF HIMSELF ON NATIONAL TV, AND BEFORE CONGRESS WITH HIS DUMBSH.T STATEMENTS AND REMARKS HE IS ASSOCIATING HIMSELF WITH THE MARINE CORPS...
AND THAT'S THE IMAGE THAT IS LEFT ON THE DUMB PUBLIC!
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