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08-08-07, 09:35 PM #31Originally Posted by MavreenS
08-08-07, 09:46 PM #32Originally Posted by sparkie
08-08-07, 09:50 PM #33Originally Posted by Marine84
JCam, hopefully we will run into each other out in the fleet. I decided I would play by the book for the intro and bust out the third person, just to show proper respect and practice for when I've got an SI in my face. Best of luck with PLC-C, but I'm sure we'll talk plenty before you ship.
08-08-07, 09:55 PM #34
I was a sargent IN the marines.... WTF... Get over it. you think I could never listen to a private, or what? JC..... you are trouble... Where does your brain reside? Don't even harrass me. I can hunt you down. From what Iv'e seen.... I do not yet like you.
08-08-07, 09:55 PM #35Originally Posted by MavreenS
seriously though its not hard to shoot expert...a candidate of your caliber (obviously motivated and extremely intelligent) should shoot nothing but expert.
If a recruit right out of high school with a 32 on the ASVAB can grasp the fundamentals of marksmanship, so can you. Don't sweat it. Besides, in boot camp our drill instructors told us that females usually shoot better...I don't remember why but they said that.
Its really really cool to see another candidate on this forum so forgive me if I'm excited !
08-08-07, 09:58 PM #36
08-08-07, 10:04 PM #37Originally Posted by JCam0331
Originally Posted by JCam0331
08-08-07, 10:08 PM #38Originally Posted by Marine84
2. lol thanks jerkstore, will do :-)
08-08-07, 10:09 PM #39Originally Posted by JCam0331
I, for the record, have heard it both ways. Officer of Marines or Sergeant of Marines, whatever, is a bit more formal. Nevertheless, everyone from the lowest Private to the Commandant himself is a Marine.
08-08-07, 10:12 PM #40
Want me to stuff a T shirt down your throat JC? Your startin to pi** me off. And I'm not alone. It's called Gung Ho ,Ever worked together? I didn't think so,,, snot nose.
08-08-07, 10:41 PM #41Originally Posted by MavreenS
Marines I worked with always referred to themselves as Corporal of Marines, Sergeants of Marines, Officers of Marines. That is because as an NCO, SNCO or Officer, your rank implies that you are a leader of Marines.
I posted the T-shirt link in a jokingly fashion, I don't know why he is so irritated. In the DD Form 216 - Also known as a certificate of appointment, or more commonly a PROMOTION WARRANT, it states:
I do appoint this Marine a Corporal/Sergeant in the United States Marine Corps...yada yada yada...then it goes on to say something along the lines of: As a Corporal/Sergeant of Marines, you are charged with setting the example etc etc.
I wish I could find a picture of a Marine Corps NCO Promotion Warrant on google but I can't find it. You'll see one soon enough.
08-08-07, 10:46 PM #42
It was always Green,,,, Guess you don't get it ...Semantics is top priority for some few..
08-08-07, 11:02 PM #43Originally Posted by JCam0331
I am also more formal online because no one can hear the tone of your voice or your intent behind them. Being a bit more formal tends to prevent ambiguity and problems with interpretation.
08-08-07, 11:17 PM #44Originally Posted by MavreenS
I think there is a certain point where you can carry the formality too far and come off as unapproachable.
I know having spent time as a junior Marine that sometimes Marines with a few rockers and especially Marine Officers can come off as downright intimidating.
I want to be approachable to my men. I want to be the platoon commander where a Private can come up to me and say: hey Lieutenant, I've got a question about...(whatever) can you give me some advice?
Famed Chinese military theorist Sun Tzu once said - " Treat your men as you would your own beloved sons. And they will follow you into the deepest valley."
If you were a father, would you require strict formality of your sons? Negative. Your relationship would be one based on love, trust, compassion and respect.
I believe that any leader, NCO or Officer that has achieved that rapport with his/her troops will achieve the pinnicle of leadership ability.
08-08-07, 11:32 PM #45
Here, let me clarify. My leadership philosophy is very much "Lead from the front" and I will lead my Marines as I myself would want to be led. With understanding, respect, and a firm hand that knows when to let go. However, you need to balance that approachability with command presence, etc., etc. I guess it'll be a big experiment until I find the balance that works for me and my future Marines.
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