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    Cool A balanced piece on Chemical Warfare/Truth

    I'd feel better not having to read about this at all, but it is
    > interesting and a helpful antidote to the CNN's, etc. of the world
    for
    > whom the message has to sizzle or they lose eyeballs...
    >
    > Since the media has decided to scare everyone with predictions of
    > chemical, biological, or nuclear warfare on our turf I decided to
    > write a paper and keep things in their proper perspective. I am a
    > retired military weapons, munitions, and training expert.
    >
    > Lesson number one: In the mid 1990's there were a series of nerve gas
    > attacks on crowded Japanese subway stations. Given perfect conditions
    > for an attack less than 10% of the people there were injured (the
    > injured were better in a few hours) and only one percent of the
    > injured died. 60 Minutes once had a fellow telling us that one drop
    of
    > nerve gas could kill a thousand people, well he didn't tell you the
    > thousand dead people per drop was theoretical. Drill Sergeants
    > exaggerate how terrible this stuff was to keep the recruits awake in
    > class (I know this because I was a Drill Sergeant too). Forget
    > everything you've ever seen on TV, in the movies, or read in a novel
    > about this stuff, it was all a lie (read this sentence again out
    > loud!)! These weapons are about terror, if you remain calm, you will
    > probably not die. This is far less scary than the media and their
    > "Experts," make it sound.
    >
    > Chemical weapons are categorized as Nerve, Blood, Blister, and
    > Incapacitating agents. Contrary to the hype of reporters and
    > politicians they are not weapons of mass destruction. Instead, they
    > are "Area denial", and terror weapons that don't destroy anything.
    > When you leave the area you almost always leave the risk. That's the
    > difference; you can leave the area and the risk; soldiers may have to
    > stay put and sit through it and that's why they need all that spiffy
    > gear.
    >
    > These are not gasses, they are vapors and/or air borne particles. The
    > agent must be delivered in sufficient quantity to kill/injure, and
    > that defines when/how it's used. Every day we have a morning and
    > evening inversion where "stuff," suspended in the air gets pushed
    > down. This inversion is why allergies (pollen) and air pollution are
    > worst at these times of the day. So, a chemical attack will have it's
    > best effect an hour of so either side of sunrise/sunset. Also, being
    > vapors and airborne particles they are heavier than air so they will
    > seek low places like ditches, basements and underground garages. This
    > stuff won't work when it's freezing, it doesn't last when it's hot,
    > and wind spreads it too thin - too fast. They've got to get this
    stuff
    > on you, or, get you to inhale it for it to work. They also have to
    get
    > the concentration of chemicals high enough to kill or wound you. Too
    > little and it's nothing, too much and it's wasted.
    >
    > What I hope you've gathered by this point is that a chemical weapons
    > attack that kills a lot of people is incredibly hard to do with
    > military grade agents and equipment so you can imagine how hard it
    > will be for terrorists. The more you know about this stuff the more
    > you realize how hard it is to use.
    >
    > We'll start by talking about nerve agents. You have these in your
    > house, plain old bug killer (like Raid) is a nerve agent. All nerve
    > agents work the same way; they are cholinesterase inhibitors that
    mess
    > up the signals your nervous system uses to make your body function.
    It
    > can harm you if you get it on your skin but it works best if they can
    > get you to inhale it. If you don't die in the first minute and you
    can
    > leave the area you're probably gonna live. The military's antidote
    for
    > all nerve agents is atropine and pralidoxime chloride. Neither one of
    > these does anything to cure the nerve agent, they send your body into
    > overdrive to keep you alive for five minutes, after that the agent is
    > used up. Your best protection is fresh air and staying calm. Listed
    > below are the symptoms for nerve agent poisoning.
    >
    > Sudden headache, Dimness of vision (someone you're looking at will
    > have pinpointed pupils), Runny nose, Excessive saliva or drooling,
    > Difficulty breathing, Tightness in chest, Nausea, Stomach cramps,
    > Twitching of exposed skin where a liquid just got on you.
    >
    > If you are in public and you start experiencing these symptoms, first
    > ask yourself, did anything out of the ordinary just happen, a loud
    > pop, did someone spray something on the crowd? Are other people
    > getting sick too?
    >
    > Is there an odor of new mown hay, green corn, something fruity, or
    > camphor where it shouldn't be?
    >
    > If the answer is yes, then calmly (if you panic you breathe faster
    and
    > inhale more air/poison) leave the area and head up wind, or, outside.
    >
    > Fresh air is the best "right now antidote". If you have a blob of
    > liquid that looks like molasses or Kayro syrup on you; blot it or
    > scrape it off and away from yourself with anything disposable. This
    > stuff works based on your body weight, what a crop duster uses to
    kill
    > bugs won't hurt you unless you stand there and breathe it in real
    > deep, then lick the residue off the ground for while. Remember they
    > have to do all the work, they have to get the concentration up and
    > keep it up for several minutes while all you have to do is quit
    > getting it on you/quit breathing it by putting space between you and
    > the attack.
    >
    > Blood agents are cyanide or arsine which effect your blood's ability
    > to provide oxygen to your tissue. The scenario for attack would be
    the
    > same as nerve agent. Look for a pop or someone splashing/spraying
    > something and folks around there getting woozy/falling down. The
    > telltale smells are bitter almonds or garlic where it shouldn't be.
    > The symptoms are blue lips, blue under the fingernails rapid
    > breathing. The military's antidote is amyl nitride and just like
    nerve
    > agent antidote it just keeps your body working for five minutes till
    > the toxins are used up. Fresh air is the your best individual chance.
    >
    > Blister agents (distilled mustard) are so nasty that nobody wants to
    > even handle it let alone use it. It's almost impossible to handle
    > safely and may have delayed effect of up to 12 hours. The attack
    > scenario is also limited to the things you'd see from other
    chemicals.
    > If you do get large, painful blisters for no apparent reason, don't
    > pop them, if you must, don't let the liquid from the blister get on
    > any other area, the stuff just keeps on spreading. It's just as
    likely
    > to harm the user as the target. Soap, water, sunshine, and fresh air
    > are this stuff's enemy.
    Bottom line on chemical weapons (it's the same if they use industrial
    > chemical spills); they are intended to make you panic, to terrorize
    > you, to herd you like sheep to the wolves. If there is an attack,
    > leave the area and go upwind, or to the sides of the wind stream.
    They
    > have to get the stuff to you, and on you. You're more likely to be
    > hurt by a drunk driver on any given day than be hurt by one of these
    > attacks. Your odds get better if you leave the area. Soap, water,
    > time, and fresh air really deal this stuff a knock-out-punch. Don't
    > let fear of an isolated attack rule your life. The odds are really on
    > your side.
    >
    > Nuclear bombs. These are the only weapons of mass destruction on
    > earth. The effects of a nuclear bomb are heat, blast, EMP, and
    > radiation. If you see a bright flash of light like the sun, where the
    > sun isn't, fall to the ground! The heat will be over a second. Then
    > there will be two blast waves, one out going, and one on it's way
    > back. Don't stand up to see what happened after the first wave;
    > anything that's going to happen will have happened in two full
    > minutes.
    >
    > These will be low yield devices and will not level whole cities. If
    > you live through the heat, blast, and initial burst of radiation,
    > you'll probably live for a very very long time. Radiation will not
    > create fifty foot tall women, or giant ants and grass hoppers the
    size
    > of tanks. These will be at the most 1 kiloton bombs; that's the
    > equivalent of 1,000 tons of TNT.

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    Here's the real deal, flying debris and radiation will kill a lot of
    > exposed (not all!) people within a half mile of the blast. Under
    > perfect conditions this is about a half mile circle of death and
    > destruction, but, when it's done it's done. EMP stands for Electro
    > Magnetic Pulse and it will fry every electronic device for a good
    > distance, it's impossible to say what and how far but probably not
    > over a couple of miles from ground zero is a good guess. Cars, cell
    > phones, computers, ATMs, you name it, all will be out of order.
    >
    > There are lots of kinds of radiation, you only need to worry about
    > three, the others you have lived with for years. You need to worry
    > about "Ionizing radiation", these are little sub atomic particles
    that
    > go whizzing along at the speed of light. They hit individual cells in
    > your body, kill the nucleus and keep on going. That's how you get
    > radiation poisoning, you have so many dead cells in your body that
    the
    > decaying cells poison you. It's the same as people getting radiation
    > treatments for cancer, only a bigger area gets radiated. The good
    news
    > is you don't have to just sit there and take it, and there's lots you
    > can do rather than panic. First; your skin will stop alpha particles,
    > a page of a news paper or your clothing will stop beta particles, you
    > just gotta try and avoid inhaling dust that's contaminated with atoms
    > that are emitting these things and you'll be generally safe from
    them.
    >
    > Gamma rays are particles that travel like rays (quantum physics makes
    > my brain hurt) and they create the same damage as alpha and beta
    > particles only they keep going and kill lots of cells as they go all
    > the way through your body. It takes a lot to stop these things, lots
    > of dense material, on the other hand it takes a lot of this to kill
    > you.
    >
    > Your defense is as always to not panic. Basic hygiene and normal
    > preparation are your friends. All canned or frozen food is safe to
    > eat. The radiation poisoning will not effect plants so fruits and
    > vegetables are OK if there's no dust on em (rinse em off if there
    is).
    > If you don't have running water and you need to collect rain water or
    > use water from wherever, just let it sit for thirty minutes and skim
    > off the water gently from the top. The dust with the bad stuff in it
    > will settle and the remaining water can be used for the toilet which
    > will still work if you have a bucket of water to pour in the tank.
    >
    > Finally there's biological warfare. There's not much to cover here.
    > Basic personal hygiene and sanitation will take you further than a
    > million doctors. Wash your hands often, don't share drinks, food,
    > sloppy kisses, etc., ... with strangers. Keep your garbage can with a
    > tight lid on it, don't have standing water (like old buckets,
    ditches,
    > or kiddie pools) laying around to allow mosquitoes breeding room.
    This
    > stuff is carried by vectors, that is bugs, rodents, and contaminated
    > material. If biological warfare is so easy as the TV makes it sound,
    > why has Saddam Hussein spent twenty years, millions, and millions of
    > dollars trying to get it right? If you're clean of person and home
    you
    > eat well and are active you're gonna live.
    >
    > Overall preparation for any terrorist attack is the same as you'd
    take
    > for a big storm. If you want a gas mask, fine, go get one. I know
    this
    > stuff and I'm not getting one and I told my Mom not to bother with
    one
    > either (how's that for confidence). We have a week's worth of cash,
    > several days worth of canned goods and plenty of soap and water. We
    > don't leave stuff out to attract bugs or rodents so we don't have
    > them. These people can't conceive a nation this big with this much
    > resources. These weapons are made to cause panic, terror, and to
    > demoralize. If we don't run around like sheep they won't use this
    > stuff after they find out it's no fun. The government is going nuts
    > over this stuff because they have to protect every inch of America.
    > You've only gotta protect yourself, and by doing that, you help the
    > country.
    >
    > Finally, there are millions of caveats to everything I wrote here and
    > you can think up specific scenarios where my advice isn't the best.
    > This letter is supposed to help the greatest number of people under
    > the greatest number of situations. If you don't like my work, don't
    > nit pick, just sit down and explain chemical, nuclear, and biological
    > warfare in a document around three pages long yourself. This is how
    we
    > the people of the United States can rob these people of their most
    > desired goal, your terror.
    >
    > SFC Red Thomas (Ret)
    > Armor Master Gunner
    > Mesa, AZ
    > Unlimited reproduction and distribution is authorized.
    > Just give me credit for my work, and, keep in context.


    Sempers,

    Roger


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