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01-09-07, 12:39 PM #46Originally Posted by SuNmAN
Sigh.
Malaria/Dysentary. There are meds and shots you can take for that.
Do you think that every single person who served in Vietnam..or even in Iraq for that matter, are out with their ass in the grass getting trigger time?
Why does everyone assume that orders to Iraq (or Vietnam) automatically is gonna be in firefights the minute they get off the plane/ship????
Note that when he returned from his little Peace Corps jaunt, he got another notice for induction, instead, he went to graduate school.
IF he were a Republican, he would be villified far and wide as a coward/draft dodger etc. Instead, he's touted as some sort of hero.
Typical hypocritical liberals.
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01-09-07, 02:27 PM #47Originally Posted by Sgt Leprechaun
but hey, he didn't break the law.
The draft board offered to let him serve in the Peace Corps and he did
Then he was smart enough to get into grad school and the government did not draft students in grad school and he did
he's no hero, but he's a helluva lot better than those who just fled to Canada.
Vietnam was a conflict in which the national security of the United States was NOT threatened whatsoever.
This man did not volunteer for the US military as his son did. He did not want to go to war, so he found a legal means to avoid it.
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01-09-07, 02:49 PM #48Originally Posted by SuNmAN
I won't get into the Vietnam conflict issue right now, because I simply don't have the time.
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01-09-07, 03:01 PM #49
"C" Courage or Coward
"Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality which guarantees the others" ~ Aristotle
We were cursed, beaten, kicked, and compelled to go through exercises to the extent that a few were unconscious for some minutes. They kept it up for the greater part of the afternoon, and then those who could possibly stand on their feet were compelled to take cold shower baths. One of the boys was scrubbed with a scrubbing brush using lye on him. They drew blood in several places.
Mennonite from Camp Lee, Virginia, United States, 16 July 1918.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector
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01-09-07, 03:06 PM #50
Hey, 10th, good to see ya! I take it that quote is from a CO from WWI? That's my guess without researching it.
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01-09-07, 03:52 PM #51Originally Posted by SuNmAN
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01-09-07, 04:00 PM #52
Exactly DWG. I'd have more respect if he just said "I'm a coward and scared, I plead guilty prior to trial and take what punishment falls my way".
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01-09-07, 04:01 PM #53
This case is open and shut, he missed movement and let his brothers go to Iraq with one less person. I say burn the son of a *****.
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01-09-07, 04:08 PM #54
Many of you are responding emotionally to this story. Ive heard everything from branding him to jailing him... My only question is... What gives you the right. I was a Marine and I dont stand in judgement of other Marines. Just remember as Marines we have to pride ourselves on our strength. It is not the strong thing to degrate this man. But hump a mile in his boots.
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01-09-07, 04:14 PM #55
Screw him, he's a doggie-string him up!
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01-09-07, 04:55 PM #56Originally Posted by Sgt Leprechaun
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01-09-07, 04:57 PM #57Originally Posted by Sgt Leprechaun
I honestly do believe that he is sincere about what he says based on what I've read
but the law is the law
especially for an Officer that is a leader of US soldiers. He cannot get a blank check and must receive his due punishment.
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01-09-07, 05:02 PM #58
mom fights for son
It's a shame that people don't understand the oath they take. They think "Well I dont like the job, I will just quit". This is a comittment, not a 9-5'r. I just hope I don't have to see this as a regular event. To my fellow Marines, Welcome home and thank you for your service.
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01-09-07, 05:05 PM #59Originally Posted by USMCJohn
I hate to be defending this guy because I don't agree with what he's doing...BUT
he's not quitting because he "doesn't like the job". He refuses to go fight in Iraq because he no longer believes in the legality and morality of the Iraq War. And there are many, many (like 2/3rds) of Americans who share his view.
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01-09-07, 05:17 PM #60Originally Posted by SuNmAN
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