Hussein executed

[ggyoung]

What is happening to our "kill the b-----s? I had a buddy who was at Marine Barricks Trinadad. He toled me that when he first got there on a Saterday some came into the barricks screaming "there having one, there having one" everybody run out of the barricks so he followed them into town. There he saw his 1st publick hanging. For next 2 years he went to all he could.

[FistFu68]

REALLY~SONNY~BOY,WHAT WAS THAT CHIT HE PULLED;ORDERING ALL THE OIL WELL'S SET ON FIRE?HE TRIED POISONING THE WHOLE PLANET,IF IT WEREN'T FOR OUR EXPERTICE;WITH DEALING WITH SUCH THING'S!WE STILL MIGHT NOT BE ABLE, TOO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY???

[drumcorpssnare]

Had we taken him our during Desert Storm, we'd simply be in this quagmire 10 years ago instad of now.

SuNmaN- Hey buddy, sometimes I wonder about you...Tell me, when you open a box of Cheerios do you look inside and go, "Oh cool! Donut seeds!"

At the conclusion of Desert Storm, Iraq was crushed. Utterly defeated. The US and the coalition were in a much better position to weed out the insurgents, than they were prepared to give us problems. That would have been a much more oportune time to put that country on the proper heading to democracy, than now.

Not to mention the ten years time the radicals have had to get all their ducks in a row. The insurgents were MUCH weaker back then!

drumcorpssnare

[SuNmAN]

What makes you consider this a quagmire? Troops I've talked to seem to be in a different engagement than the one the NYT is involved in. Memories are very short around here; After the World Trade Ctr. the Pres. said we are involved in a fight that might take generations and definitely would not be short term. Had we ignored the un, and finished the job the first time, the devastation already suffered by the Iraqis at that time should have been sufficient to create a very different situation than the one we've allowed ourselves to become involved in.
There are times I really wonder about your commitment to the Corps.

what makes this not a quagmire?

Troops dying every day

We can't decide whether to stay or withdraw

Civilians getting killed every single day

no visible progress toward peace and stability being made

I'm committed to serving my country, yes. But it doesn't mean I have to adpot the "war is cool, ooorah gung ho kill kill kill them all" attitude that you guys have.

[SuNmAN]

SuNmaN- Hey buddy, sometimes I wonder about you...Tell me, when you open a box of Cheerios do you look inside and go, "Oh cool! Donut seeds!"

At the conclusion of Desert Storm, Iraq was crushed. Utterly defeated. The US and the coalition were in a much better position to weed out the insurgents, than they were prepared to give us problems. That would have been a much more oportune time to put that country on the proper heading to democracy, than now.

Not to mention the ten years time the radicals have had to get all their ducks in a row. The insurgents were MUCH weaker back then!

drumcorpssnare

were the insurgents much weaker back then?

Lets not forget the Mujahideen ousted the Soviet Union from Afghanistan after a decade of fighting in 1989

thats before the Persian Gulf War.

[SuNmAN]

REALLY~SONNY~BOY,WHAT WAS THAT CHIT HE PULLED;ORDERING ALL THE OIL WELL'S SET ON FIRE?HE TRIED POISONING THE WHOLE PLANET,IF IT WEREN'T FOR OUR EXPERTICE;WITH DEALING WITH SUCH THING'S!WE STILL MIGHT NOT BE ABLE, TOO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY???

yeah I don't like the guy, he's a villain and deserved what he got.

But it would've given me 10x more satisfaction seeing Osama hang.

[SuNmAN]

What is happening to our "kill the b-----s? I had a buddy who was at Marine Barricks Trinadad. He toled me that when he first got there on a Saterday some came into the barricks screaming "there having one, there having one" everybody run out of the barricks so he followed them into town. There he saw his 1st publick hanging. For next 2 years he went to all he could.

wow sweet life someone that enjoys seeing people die

might wanna check him out at the psychiatric ward

[yellowwing]

I'm committed to serving my country, yes. But it doesn't mean I have to adpot the "war is cool, ooorah gung ho kill kill kill them all" attitude that you guys have.

From a recent Marine Blog from the Sandbox:

Highest Unit Re-enlistment Rate — Any outfit that has been in Iraq recently. All the danger, all the hardship, all the time away from home, all the horror, all the frustrations with the fight here — all are outweighed by the desire for young men to be part of a band of brothers who will die for one another. They found what they were looking for when they enlisted out of high school. Man for man, they now have more combat experience than any Marines in the history of our Corps.

Remember, its not about you.

[003XXMarineDAD]

SunMan you are a real fruit tree hugging love kumbaya turn the other cheek guy.
I have spent time over the last two months talking to my son which has been over there in Anbar and knows what is going on. All I can say is that if you carry this attitude with you over there you just be the first confirmed Fragging of this conflict.
These Marines over there may not take to your turn the cheek feelings that you seem to have.
You just may have to make a real choice between living and dying and that turn the cheek might get you killed.

[SuNmAN]

SunMan you are a real fruit tree hugging love kumbaya turn the other cheek guy.
I have spent time over the last two months talking to my son which has been over there in Anbar and knows what is going on. All I can say is that if you carry this attitude with you over there you just be the first confirmed Fragging of this conflict.
These Marines over there may not take to your turn the cheek feelings that you seem to have.
You just may have to make a real choice between living and dying and that turn the cheek might get you killed.

I'm a Christian, what can I say.

Besides, if and when I go, my job is not to PLEASE the other Marines

I can give a crap what they think of me. My job is to MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. When you cave in to peer pressure in combat, what happens is little 14 year old Iraqi girls get murdered and raped by US soldiers

[yellowwing]

Here's another one for you, kid:

http://www.imef-fwd.usmc.mil/imef%2F...D?OpenDocument

Story, photos by Cpl. Michael S. Cifuentes
Combat Correspondent
3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment

Getty"s service in the Marine Corps ends Jan. 27, 2007. But he won"t be getting out. He chose to extend his service just long enough to finish what he"s currently doing - a seven-month tour in Iraq.

"I had to be here with my boys," said Getty during a frigid, three-hour night patrol in Husaybah, a city that shares a border with Syria in northwestern Iraq.
The Lakeview, Ore., native made the decision long before his deployment to Iraq"s Al Anbar Province began in September.

"Getty made this decision for the love of his Marines," said 1st Sgt. Robert M. Sands, a Baltimore native and the senior enlisted Marine in Getty"s company. "It"s pretty honorable and a good example of a leader."

Peer pressure may be common in Illinois, but its deadly serious in the Corps.

Remember the training and preparation you've been through. It wasn't for nothing, it had design and specific purpose. Close with and destroy the enemy. Get that through your head.

[SuNmAN]

From a recent Marine Blog from the Sandbox:

Highest Unit Re-enlistment Rate — Any outfit that has been in Iraq recently. All the danger, all the hardship, all the time away from home, all the horror, all the frustrations with the fight here — all are outweighed by the desire for young men to be part of a band of brothers who will die for one another. They found what they were looking for when they enlisted out of high school. Man for man, they now have more combat experience than any Marines in the history of our Corps.

Remember, its not about you.

ooorah

I respect that fully

[jgorosco]

Sunman...I haven't commented on your comments lately but this comment p*ssed me off alot...

I can give a crap what they think of me. My job is to MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. When you cave in to peer pressure in combat, what happens is little 14 year old Iraqi girls get murdered and raped by US soldiers

Your job as a leader of Marines is to ensure your Marines come back home. And you might want to care what your Marines think about you because we have ways of getting rid of people that are in it for themselves. So are you saying that every leader of Marines that gives a sh*t about his Marines ends up letting his Marines rape 14 yo girls? Another question I have for you is do you still go to your weekend camping trips? Or do you find ways to get out of them?

[SuNmAN]

Here's another one for you, kid:

http://www.imef-fwd.usmc.mil/imef%2F...D?OpenDocument

Story, photos by Cpl. Michael S. Cifuentes
Combat Correspondent
3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment

Getty"s service in the Marine Corps ends Jan. 27, 2007. But he won"t be getting out. He chose to extend his service just long enough to finish what he"s currently doing - a seven-month tour in Iraq.

"I had to be here with my boys," said Getty during a frigid, three-hour night patrol in Husaybah, a city that shares a border with Syria in northwestern Iraq.
The Lakeview, Ore., native made the decision long before his deployment to Iraq"s Al Anbar Province began in September.

"Getty made this decision for the love of his Marines," said 1st Sgt. Robert M. Sands, a Baltimore native and the senior enlisted Marine in Getty"s company. "It"s pretty honorable and a good example of a leader."

Peer pressure may be common in Illinois, but its deadly serious in the Corps.

Remember the training and preparation you've been through. It wasn't for nothing, it had design and specific purpose. Close with and destroy the enemy. Get that through your head.

yes, close with and destroy the enemy

of course

I'm sorry that I see only enemy combatants as the enemy

I do not consider any of the following to be the enemy like many here do: Democratic Party of the United States, Muslim-Americans, Iraqi civilians etc etc

[hrscowboy]

Sunman you forget your a Marine and you dont question your senior Marine ncos of there actions.. trust me you do that crap and you will go home in a body bag.. Another thing young man i was in the heat of battle for 2 tours vietnam and not once.. and i mean not once did any Marine i was around think about killin or raping children what so ever those men knew the reprecussions that would come down on them if they did. they would have come home in a body bag. As a squad leader i told all my men if you try that crap your going home in a body bag that was the bottom line..