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  1. #16
    I will add one thing about the requirements. You have to go through a screening board and I've heard some funny stories about the questions you are asked. I won't say what they are, but be prepared to answer hypothetical questions that present you with unusual scenarios. The interviewer is looking to see what you would do in certain situations.


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    Wow. CI sounds like a great MOS to have. I think Counterespionage/Counterterrorism sounds like fun.


  3. #18
    This was an interesting thread. I can't add anything about the MOS, but I would like to respond to some of the angst.

    A poolee SHOULD ask as many questions as possible - of their recruiter and any Marines they can find.

    I am about as pro-military and pro-war as they come. My son is a Marine with an intelligence MOS. He didn't have any other Marines to talk to prior to boot camp, except his recruiter (and his first recruiter ended up in military jail because of the things he did as a recruiter, but that's another saga).

    Recruiters do not always tell the truth, and sometimes when they tell the truth, it's "selective" truth.

    I'm pretty sure the poolees and most parents can handle the fact that some things are classified, especially in the intelligence MOS. But generalities and unclassified details are something that every poolee should know about their MOS.

    Everyone should go in knowing the reality of what they are facing.

    So I hope no poolee is discouraged about asking questions. To Marines who've been through it, the questions may be annoying. But to a young man facing the unknown, the questions - and answers - are their way of learning and coming to terms with their future.

    I wish I had known about this site about 6 months ago. I think I could have received a lot more information - and probably correct - than we received from our local recruiters.


  4. #19
    I've read every post on this thread now, and feel encouraged to do Intel Specialist instead of Cryptological Linguist, due to the description that dscusmc gave it on the first page, but have been unable to find anything else online that confirms the bit he wrote about how 0231 Marines are still able to join any units they want to, or to go to all those schools, etc. Also, my recruiter has told me that intel Marines need a Secret Clearance, but his post mentions a Top Secret Clearance. Looking at about.com doesn't mention a security clearance for 0231's at all, only that you must have access to "sensitive compartmented information."
    Ultimately, if a few Marines with recent experience in the 0231 MOS could answer a few questions, I'd be so very grateful:
    a) Can an 0231 Marine tag along with units from an MOS that interests him if he chooses?
    b) Can he realistically hope to go to any/all of those schools that dscusmc listed in his post? (SERE, dive, jump, etc?)
    c) Does an 0231 need Secret or TS Clearance?
    d) Can he realistically hope to join a Category B MOS while serving as an 0231?

    I would really appreciate any input on this... I know it's an old thread, but I'm really looking into doing Intel, and I would feel better about it if I knew this was more than just an idealogical scenario.


  5. #20
    Dare I say it? This looks like some great Intel Lt! Thanks!


  6. #21
    LOL. Yeah, no kidding.

    One thing, though, poolees.....you CAN'T, repeat, CAN'T enlist for CounterIntelligence. It's a 'lateral move' only MOS.

    The Lt is dead on with his information.

    Oh...

    A: You'll (eventually) have a TS clearance in Intel. The letters after that designate levels of access. "SCI" is "Sensitive Compartmented Information".

    B: Realistically, NO, you won't be going to all those schools. Unless you are assigned to a unit that also goes to them, and 'operators' will get first pick. Get the idea of 'cool schools' out of your head at this point anyway.

    C: No, you can't just 'tag along' with whatever unit you want to. You'll be busy enough doing the things you have to do in your own unit. Worry about them first.

    D: Yes, you can do Cat B MOS's, you'll have to eventually. Everyone does.

    That should about cover it.


  7. #22
    Thanks a lot for your help, Sgt Leprechaun - your answers were straight to the point.
    I guess I am just another imaginative poolee. I like military strategy, I like learning about different kinds of warfare, and I like having a job that holds some real responsibility.
    But, I think the opportunity to do my part in the physical, under-the-sun work the Marines are known for would make my job twice as rewarding to me. I realize that the easiest way to get all of these things would be to just go in as an 03xx.
    If there really is such a slim chance of getting attached to a unit like that, perhaps I should re-evaluate my options.
    Even still, I'd also like to hear from other Marines, whether you agree or disagree with this - thank you all!


  8. #23
    Attachment like that will be 'luck of the draw'. However, if you go Intel, you should know that you could be with Recon for 4 or 5 years, then come back and be with the Wing for 10 years. It just depends on where you want to go. Your first post will likely be chosen for you by the monitor, but after that, on your next enlistment, you could request to go someplace else.


  9. #24
    I see, I see - that is interesting to know. I guess what's meant to be will be, huh? I don't presume to be the authority or anything, but I take it the monitor probably takes PFT scores into account when assigning these types of posts? Again, that's just a guess. Thanks again Sgt Leprechaun. Intel sounds like a really rewarding MOS regardless of post location, but with a couple of months left until I ship, I'm just spending my days training physically and doing some research.


  10. #25
    Wow its been so long since ive seen this post its almost comicl to look back on. Nontheless I guess I should say that I did wind up going with 0231. Im at the school here in verginia now and should be picking up lancecorperal pretty soon. I don’t know too much about the fleet but I would still recomend this mos to anyone interested. I know it is one of the best mos’s because every class has around five to seven corporals and sergeant lat-movers from other mos’s (yes even 0311 including 2 in my class) so I know it cant be that bad. Iv talked to at least 10 lat-movers so far who have all been deployed to Iraq and seen dam near every job the marines offer so if you wont take my word then take theirs. Ether way I wish you luck and your all good I my book just for signing the dotted line and becoming a marine.


  11. #26
    p.s. everyone gets to choose thier first duty station based on their class standing. the corse is very hard and if you dont do so well you usually get stuck with 29 palms or lejun


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish
    I've read every post on this thread now, and feel encouraged to do Intel Specialist instead of Cryptological Linguist, due to the description that dscusmc gave it on the first page, but have been unable to find anything else online that confirms the bit he wrote about how 0231 Marines are still able to join any units they want to, or to go to all those schools, etc. Also, my recruiter has told me that intel Marines need a Secret Clearance, but his post mentions a Top Secret Clearance. Looking at about.com doesn't mention a security clearance for 0231's at all, only that you must have access to "sensitive compartmented information."
    Ultimately, if a few Marines with recent experience in the 0231 MOS could answer a few questions, I'd be so very grateful:
    a) Can an 0231 Marine tag along with units from an MOS that interests him if he chooses?
    b) Can he realistically hope to go to any/all of those schools that dscusmc listed in his post? (SERE, dive, jump, etc?)
    c) Does an 0231 need Secret or TS Clearance?
    d) Can he realistically hope to join a Category B MOS while serving as an 0231?

    I would really appreciate any input on this... I know it's an old thread, but I'm really looking into doing Intel, and I would feel better about it if I knew this was more than just an idealogical scenario.
    A 0231 needs a Single Scope background Check, which clears you for top secret.
    A SSBC goes back through your childhood to kids you may not even have known. They pretty much want to find out what type of person you are, and dig up all the dirt they can on you. They will interview your friends, friends of friends, teachers, everyone. You will then have to do a polygraph, where they ask questions like "Would you sell information" ect.

    You also can not have Bad credit, no felony, if you went to a therapist, or even counsler they want to know about it. They will want to know about depressions and anyother mental problems you may of had. There is a list of things that cause a DQ.


  13. #28
    Sounds like the background check is no gimme. Alright, so from what I've read on these forums and other forums online, intel specialists do a fair share of map-reading, analyzing, presenting, etc. The second thing I've learned about 02xx's is that it's hard to find any other consistant information on them, most likely due to the TS clearance combined with the broad spectrum of tasks they perform.

    In this day and age, with the war in Iraq appearing to slow down, but tension with Iran seeming to build, what might you say the chances of an 0231 seeing combat are, or even of deploying to a combat zone, in the next 4 years? It undoubtedly depends on the unit you're attached with, but I'm curious to find out how far "behind the lines" the 02's tend to be in your experiences.
    Half of me wants the job skills, TS clearance, and responsibility, and the other half of me just wants to fight. For now, I'm letting the responsible half win. I made a 97 on my ASVAB, so maybe my class standing will be enough to get me over there. I realize I could just be an 03xx, but if fighting is slowing down, I don't want to spend 4 years being completely bored. But then, what do I really know about that stuff?

    In any case, as MackMaster pointed out, it will be enough just to be a Marine... the rest will be details.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFish
    Sounds like the background check is no gimme. Alright, so from what I've read on these forums and other forums online, intel specialists do a fair share of map-reading, analyzing, presenting, etc. The second thing I've learned about 02xx's is that it's hard to find any other consistant information on them, most likely due to the TS clearance combined with the broad spectrum of tasks they perform.

    In this day and age, with the war in Iraq appearing to slow down, but tension with Iran seeming to build, what might you say the chances of an 0231 seeing combat are, or even of deploying to a combat zone, in the next 4 years? It undoubtedly depends on the unit you're attached with, but I'm curious to find out how far "behind the lines" the 02's tend to be in your experiences.
    Half of me wants the job skills, TS clearance, and responsibility, and the other half of me just wants to fight. For now, I'm letting the responsible half win. I made a 97 on my ASVAB, so maybe my class standing will be enough to get me over there. I realize I could just be an 03xx, but if fighting is slowing down, I don't want to spend 4 years being completely bored. But then, what do I really know about that stuff?

    In any case, as MackMaster pointed out, it will be enough just to be a Marine... the rest will be details.
    I'm no Intel. Specialist but now a days, I doubt a lot of them see Combat. They probably do a lot with Satalite, UAV's, and things of that sort. Counter Intelligence probably does a lot of hands on. In some cases, they act like they are "anti-american" to make friends with people who are suspected of possibly spying on the US government and things of that nature.


  15. #30
    Incorrect. Intel Specialists serve down to the Battalion/Squadron level. They "go and do". That's the Cpl/Sgt 'in the street'.

    Also, Satellite and UAV operators use the equipment. It takes an Intelligence Specialist trained in their art to decipher what those systems show us.

    CI is *counter* intelligence. Meaning they are NOT spies and such, but look for those who are trying to do us harm on the Intelligence level. (That's a simplified version).

    I can assure you, though, that Intel folks get dirty.

    Mr Fish, if you choose Intel as an MOS, I assure you, you will not be 'bored'. You stand a decent chance of seeing the elephant. However, your primary responsibility won't be 'rifle totin', but helping those who DO 'tote' full time, with information to keep them alive and kill the bad guy.


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