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03-19-08, 01:55 AM #16Originally Posted by drillinstructor
04-30-08, 03:10 PM #17
What are your thoughs on this working for other exercises, such as the bench press. For example, if you can bench 225 six times, could you use this program and work yourself up to say 12 reps?
04-30-08, 04:01 PM #18Originally Posted by TheRiverStyx
05-02-08, 03:58 PM #19Originally Posted by TheRiverStyx
And yes, you really should fill out your profile--it's part of the forum rules.
05-02-08, 04:12 PM #20Originally Posted by drillinstructor
05-02-08, 04:25 PM #21Originally Posted by AndreBlanks
05-02-08, 05:30 PM #22
I guess you see that the admin here didn't want you to post links so you decided you were above the rules. Goon initiative, poor judgement.
I disagree with telling someone to stop lifting weights. You need more than just the ability to do more than just pull ups unless you think the enemy is going to just want to do a pull up contest with you.
05-02-08, 05:37 PM #23
Sorry about the link post--tried to see if you could edit/delete posts but couldn't find a way. . .
I don't think it's a bad idea to lift weights but I wouldn't make it the focal point of training for boot camp. I just think you just don't want to add a lot of muscle mass if you're going more for endurance. You can do rep/set ranges that focus more on strength and endurance, but a bench press, while similar to a push up is still not a push up and just because you can bench press X-hundred pounds X times doesn't necessarilly equal a high pushup rep.
05-02-08, 09:44 PM #24Originally Posted by AndreBlanks
05-02-08, 09:59 PM #25
Unless you're thinking about training for Mr. Olympia then spending time throwing iron around in the gym isn't going to hurt anything. At times I carried more mass than I would say is ideal, but I was never worried about meeting the PFT requirements as a result. If you're fit you're fit and you'll be fine.
There are things that I believe are BETTER than spending time throwing weights around in the gym. Crossfit is one of those things. Kettlebell training is another. Both build explosive power and flexibility, which are ALWAYS good things.
05-02-08, 11:27 PM #26
I am actually in the middle of Recon Ron and it's worked great for me. I'm currently on the 10, 8 , 6, 6, 6 week. I HIGHLY recommend this for anyone looking to up their pull ups since I was doing 7 max when I started and now I'm doing 14 max.
05-03-08, 08:21 AM #27
I don't want to seem like I'm hating on weight lifting. I used to lift a lot and loved it. I just wanted to emphasize that there are different set/rep ranges for what you are trying to achieve with weight lifting. If you do heavy-ass weight and go for 4 reps or below it's really more of a pure strength training. Lighter weight with reps in the 12-15+ range are going to build endurance. Between those two gives more hypertrophy results--which is what body builders use.
Body builders look strong--they aren't always the strongest guys. Do a YouTube search for "human flag". Then do a search for Dorian Yates or Ronnie Coleman (both bodybuilders). Totally different looks, results, and training. The human flag guy is probably stronger (per-size/weight/muscle mass) but that doesn't translate into doing a 300+ pound bench. Vice versa as well--just because you can bench 300+ doesn't mean you can hold yourself out on the poles for 35 seconds.
Echo_Four_Bravo mentioned CrossFit. You could check that out--any body weight exercises are good. Use sandbags. Lifting a fifty pound sandbag is a lot different than lifting a fifty pound plate or dumbbell (you wouldn't think so and neither did I but it is). Do a Google search for "old school training". That stuff will kick your butt. It's things like sandbag work, tractor tire flipping/sledgehammering, kettle bells, drags/pulls, etc. etc. That stuff is a lot cheaper than weights as well. A sandbag is 2.50 for a 50lb bag of sand from Home Depot and a pillow case with the opening duct taped. You can still do squats, deadlifts, cleans, presses, etc. etc. with those. If you choose to go that route stick to the big compound movements like the ones I just listed--you get more bang for your buck.
05-12-08, 10:29 PM #28
I have been doing drillinstructors pullup workout for the past 7 days and have seen incredible results. I have been doing it every other day to allow me to continue to lift with my recruiters and work on other things, but in the last 7 days my pullups have gone from 14 last monday, to 18 tonight. I actually went from 14 one workout to 17 the next. I guess I just broke through a wall or somthing, but whatever it was, the workout WORKS!
Thank you very much for posting it MSgt.
05-12-08, 11:20 PM #29
The Recon Ron program was just not doing anything for me. I've actually been using drillinstructors's pullup program and its worked great for me. In about two weeks I went from 2 pullups to 6. I'm doing more pullups than some of the guys at my RSS. I dont leave for Boot Camp untill July 7th. So if I can do 6 pullups now imagine when I leave for Boot? I know I'm a female and I dont have to do pullups but, it's just great to outdo the guys. So thanks MSgt.
05-12-08, 11:36 PM #30Originally Posted by LittleMissStretch
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