Either Fight The War Or Come Home

[greensideout]

Originally posted by Joseph P Carey


Green side out,

That is an interesting question. What did we win fighting for US Policy in Vietnam?

In truth, I believe that had we landed a Division of Marines in North Vietnam, which the Russians feared most of all, we would have been able to cut off the enemy from the use of the Ho Chi Minh Trail, the war would have been over in 6 months, and it would have saved thousands of American Lives, but we didn't.

We kicked Butt in Vietnam, it was our elected Representatives that sold us out,

Can you see a pattern here? Does it sound familiar?

Thank you Mr Carey. You did an excellent job of supporting the point that I made.

[jirzman]

Mr.Carey
You opened my eyes on one thing you said.The 2 year enlisted person you mentioned,had to be 14years old if his profile is right,when he entered the service!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Phantom Blooper]

Computer gliche- Check allot of profiles if you put your year on your birthday in shows 12/31/69. Thousands of Marines born on New Years Eve.

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Mr. Carey , I would like to know if on your resume have you ever held any political office? Just wondering. Semper-Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall

BUMP!BUMP!BUMP!BUMP!

[jirzman]

Thanks for the correction Phantom.To err is human,but easy to acknowledge when a Marine covers your butt.Thanks

[Joseph P Carey]

Originally posted by rick taylor
Did I miss something Fox2/23. I dont think Mr. Bush was flying the planes on 9/11 was he. He is our Pres.& commander in chief. I didnot like Pres. Johnson but went to Nam anyway. It was my job.With this kind of support the sand pit will end like Nam. Semper Fi R.T.

Rick,

I think 'Fox' got thrown out of the Corps in the 80's, and I think he is bitter. That much is pretty evident about him. I did not like President Johnson as well, but I was a Marine, and I knew my duty. My duty was to the Constitution, the Country, the Flag, and the Civilian Authority (Even if I did not like who was elected). The individual Marines are not political; they are the 'Trained Terrors', They are the 'Night Sweats', they are the 'Final Solution', They are the 'Hammer of America" to anyone that is an enemy of the USA. That is our job. There is nothing worst, and more useless, that a philosophical Marine in combat. There is nothing philosophical about going in fast, and ripping the throat and the heart out of your enemy.

[Phantom Blooper]

"Mr. Carey , I would like to know if on your resume have you ever held any political office? Just wondering. Semper-Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall"

Must have some political background,as I have been to this rally and have asked the same question four times and my question has been sidestepped and gaffed off each time.

Just hunting for a job in 2006 & 2007 ending in January 2008,so I can get my social security in order and looking for a campaign manager position. I can be a team player......



Semper-Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall

[rick taylor]

Well said Marine. Thanks, sometime I have a little trouble expressing myself when my anger takes over. P.T.S.D. does that to some of us.Ha,Ha. Semper Fi R.T.

[Fox 2/23]

I'm not going to post my real birthdate on the internet. But being that you are calling me out, I was born in late 1965. Graduated from MCRD San Diego 8-12-83. Platoon 3050, platoon high shooter. I was with HQ 3/11 from Oct 83 to Mar 85. I was on Oki with HQ Co., HQ Bn G-2, 3rd Mar Div from April 85 to April 86. I was an 0231. I did have a three year active enlistment, separated a month early, W95. I spent 11 months with Fox Co. 2/23 USMCR as an 0331 when I was in college, found a better job closer to home and left. Final discharge(Honorable) in 1988. good conduct medal, sea service deployment ribbon, pistol sharpshooter, 4th award rifle expert. 1st class pft every time. Sorry, no Navy Cross, no Silver Star, didn't make the cover of Leatherneck. Are any of your kids serving or have served Joe? If yes than great, you can be proud. If they are still in I will pray for their safety.

Sounds like you are getting more riled than you need to be. But you are drawing something from it so I can understand that. Perhaps I am part of a vast "left wing conspiracy" and you are doing your part in confronting it(ha ha). Gents as far as showing deference to politicians you are welcome to hold whatever beliefs you choose.

As far as holding a grudge against the Corps? Nope. I saw a few interesting places, served with some interesting people(and some not so interesting) and earned money for college. All in all it was a good deal for me so I have no animosity against the Corps.

For what its worth, my dad was wounded on Iwo Jima with the 5th Division and attempted to talk me out of enlisting. "You don't want to join the Marine Corps, son, they are a suicide squad." I was never in combat myself, I would guess most of the Marines here have not, but I could be wrong. So how odd is that? Two generations of Marines trying to talk their kids out of going. Of course I was a nobody in the Corps and he was an Iwo Jima Marine. Uncommon Valor was a Common Virtue. Does the message sound differently depending on who says it? Perhaps it does.

btw Joseph, what did you mean by saying that we are the Final Solution? Just need a clarification on that as the term has been used once before in history(die endlosung).

Semper Fi

ps So what about that southern border?

[Joseph P Carey]

Fox wrote: "btw Joseph, what did you mean by saying that we are the Final Solution? Just need a clarification on that as the term has been used once before in history(die endlosung)."

Your profile reads 83 to 85 as time in the Corps. I remarked about the two year enlistment. You wrote it, I didn't. I know the years that I served.

As far as the final solution, when all the hand waving is done, and all the diplomats have said their last words, and there is nothing left to be talked about with any successful conclussion to be seen, there is the one exception, the Final Solution, and the order goes out, "Send in the Marines!"

For you to make something else out of the two words 'Final Solution' is just something I expect of you. All mathematical equations have a 'final solution' to a problem, how one arrives at a 'final solution' is strictly theory and execution. For the USA, the Final Solution is simply "MARINES'.

[Phantom Blooper]

"Mr. Carey , I would like to know if on your resume have you ever held any political office? Just wondering. Semper-Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall"

Must have some political background,as I have been to this rally and have asked the same question FIVE times and my question has been sidestepped and gaffed off each time.

Just hunting for a job in 2006 & 2007 ending in January 2008,so I can get my social security in order and looking for a campaign manager position. I can be a team player......



Semper-Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall

[Fox 2/23]

yeah Phantom, your point is not lost. If Joe would care to go to the search engine of his choice and type in "final solution". Are any of your children now serving Joe, or have served? If so I would like to offer my gratitude for their service.

[Phantom Blooper]

Maybe, I took a wrong turn somewhere! Is this the Marine Leatherneck dot com? Or, is it the Jane Fonda Dot Com? Maybe, it is the Cut and Run network, or something like that. Maybe it is Sprint or ATT or Verizon dot com."Do you hear me now.com?" Maybe it is a tribute to the late Rodney Dangerfield dot com. Hell,it's the line is busy.com. The party line is filled up and they are talking to everybody but me. Waaaah! Security,SECURITY hecklers at these conventions are bothersome!

Semper-Fi! Gotta Love It Chuck Hall

[Joseph P Carey]

Originally posted by Phantom Blooper
"Mr. Carey , I would like to know if on your resume have you ever held any political office? Just wondering. Semper-Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall"

Must have some political background,as I have been to this rally and have asked the same question FIVE times and my question has been sidestepped and gaffed off each time.

Just hunting for a job in 2006 & 2007 ending in January 2008,so I can get my social security in order and looking for a campaign manager position. I can be a team player......



Semper-Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall

:-) No, old buddy, I am not a politician, and "If chosen to be a candidate, I will not run."

As I usually answer the questions of anyone that writes to me, or about me, I am very sorry to not have answered you. Actually, I thought it was just a cleaver remark, and no answer was needed. I do apologize to you, although I should have picked up on the Bumps, I did not. Again, I am sorry, it was rude and not so observant of me, you deserved an answer.

[Phantom Blooper]

THANK YOU SIR!! Enough said I will go somewhere else to have fun! Thank you for your time! Semper-Fi! Chuck Hall


P.S.Well back to the classifieds. Anybody else need a campaign manager,I can work part time! ROTFLMAO!

[Joseph P Carey]

Fox Writes: "yeah Phantom, your point is not lost. If Joe would care to go to the search engine of his choice and type in "final solution". Are any of your children now serving Joe, or have served? If so I would like to offer my gratitude for their service."

Actually Fox, I am well read on the pre-, during-, and post- World War two politics of the German National Socialist Workers Party, aka NAZI, and their "Final Solution" of the Jews, Gypsies, and other lesser Arian types according to their determination. The 'Superman' Society so to speak. The Nazi's were losers in war and in their policies, as well as their hatred of certain peoples, and their policies to eleiminate the same certain peoples. But the two words, Final Solution, has been used by Acadenics, Liberals, and others without a word of the significance to the Nazi Party of WWII Germany. It is still used in higher forms of math as the end product of a linear equation.

I explained rather clearly that I was using it as part of a linear equation (Lack of communication + Lack of cooperation + Lack of agreement + lack of a forseeable peaceful sollution = United States Marines Corps). You apparently want to make me out to be a racist, because I used the words "Final Solution"! It is an old Left Wing trick that has not ever worked with any success before, and did not work now.

Thank you for your interest.

By the way, there is a Japanese Baseball team called the Marines, and before you ask me as to whom it is that I am referring to there as well, I can assure you, it is the United States Marines, and not the ballteam.

I hope this answered your question.

As far as my children, They are none of you concern, but my son, born 1969, served in the Army (His choice, not mine), he got his bumps, and he graduated with honors from college. My three daughters did not serve, all but one a college grad, the youngest, Momoko, is still going to school at 25. She wanted to work her way through school, rather than have me pay for it. I am very proud of each one of them.