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    Marine Corps to Shut Down, Cut Back 7 MOSs as the Force Prepares for Change






    U.S. Marine Corps Brig. Gen. Thomas Savage is briefed on the safety and procedures tankers must adhere to when operating M1A1 Abram tanks during exercise Native Fury 20 in the United Arab Emirates, March 18, 2020. (U.S. Marine Corps/Sgt. Logan Block)

    27 May 2020
    Military.com | By Gina Harkins

    Marines in several jobs will need to move into new fields -- or even other branches of the military -- as the service begins its first phase of ending or curbing long-standing missions in a force-wide reorganization to take on new threats.
    The Marine Corps has released instructions to the more than 1,300 enlisted personnel and officers whose military occupational specialties will be affected by Force Design 2030, a sweeping review leaders say was needed to prep the service for future fights.

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    Four MOSs will be cut as part of the plan: 1812, armor Marine; 1869, senior armor staff noncommissioned officer; 2146, main battle tank repairer/technician; and 1802, tank officer. Three others -- 5803, military police officer; 2110, ordnance vehicle maintenance officer; and 5805, criminal investigation officer -- will see their billets reduced as part of the changes.
    That comes as tank battalions, infantry units, bridging companies, law enforcement missions and some aircraft squadrons see their missions cut or reduced.
    For now, the seven MOSs are the only ones that require "active force-shaping measures," an administrative message states. More guidance will be released if future phases of the Force Design require similar action, it adds.
    The Marine Corps is pledging to manage the reductions in a "measured and responsible way," said Maj. Craig Thomas, a spokesman for Manpower and Reserve Affairs in Quantico, Virginia. That includes relying on some Marines choosing to leave the service, as well as voluntary force-shaping authorities, he said.
    "The Marine Corps will remain faithful to our Marines and their families by maximizing opportunities for continued service for those in a military occupation slated for divestment," Thomas said.
    Of the seven MOSs facing cuts, the most highly populated include armor Marines, main battle tank repairer/technicians and military police officers. There are currently 421 armor Marines; 341 MBT repairer/technicians; and 308 military police officers.
    Commandant Gen. David Berger first announced in March that the Marine Corps will eventually stop operating tanks, cut three infantry battalions, and shed about 7% of its overall force over the next decade. The cost savings will be used to pay for high-tech equipment leaders say Marines will need to counter China, Russia, Iran and others.
    Lt. Gen. Eric Smith, the head of Marine Corps Combat Development Command, said the decision to cut or reduce some missions doesn't mean leathernecks who serve in those fields aren't important.
    "We're not saying that a tank or bridging company isn't of value," Smith told Military.com. "Tanks were a massive value in the past. I used them in and around Ramadi and in and around Fallujah [in Iraq]. They paid their dues in blood, right? These are Marine warriors from the Korean War to now."
    But the Marine Corps must reorganize to remain relevant, he added.
    "It's just that for the future fight, [those MOSs] are of less value than the things that we need most, such as long-range precision fire," Smith said.
    Marine administrative message 302/20 lays out several options for the personnel whose MOSs are closing or cutting billets, including lateral moves, early retirement options or interservice transfers to other military branches.
    "The use of involuntary tools may also be used, as necessary," the message states.
    Berger said last month no one would be forced out because of the changes. Force Design 2030, he said, "is intentionally drawn out over time so we can make the right decisions."
    Thomas said manpower officials have briefed commanders across the fleet on the MOS closures and cuts. Monitors and occupational field sponsors are working with impacted units, he said, "to ensure Marines have all the information necessary to help them make informed decisions about their future."
    "The Marine Corps desires to retain its finest warriors, regardless of their current MOS," Thomas added. "We will work with Marines on a case-by-case basis to find the best solution that meets the needs of the Marine Corps and the individual desires of each Marine."

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    sorry to say but I think this CMC has his head up his a$$, they seem very short sighted as to what and where the threats are...


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    Quote Originally Posted by irpat54 View Post
    sorry to say but I think this CMC has his head up his a$$, they seem very short sighted as to what and where the threats are...
    and then some!!!! That is the kind of decision that I would expect out of an Obozo appointee....

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    Who is actually pushing this Horsechit ? You trying too tell me you’ve got a General from Md with Visions that are good for the USMC,by cutting its ball’s OFF and saving Cash ? Where in the F**K do these Men get Educated ?


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    Maybe that post about the Corps bringing in a bunch of computer geek types with colored hair, facial tattoos and studs in their noses wasn't as big of a joke as we all thought it was...

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    Thats what You get when you have a General Officer that wants all Marines too start swapping Spit with Sailors lol Aye Aye Semper Fi


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoose View Post

    Marine Corps to Shut Down, Cut Back 7 MOSs as the Force Prepares for Change






    U.S. Marine Corps Brig. Gen. Thomas Savage is briefed on the safety and procedures tankers must adhere to when operating M1A1 Abram tanks during exercise Native Fury 20 in the United Arab Emirates, March 18, 2020. (U.S. Marine Corps/Sgt. Logan Block)

    27 May 2020
    Military.com | By Gina Harkins

    Marines in several jobs will need to move into new fields -- or even other branches of the military -- as the service begins its first phase of ending or curbing long-standing missions in a force-wide reorganization to take on new threats.
    The Marine Corps has released instructions to the more than 1,300 enlisted personnel and officers whose military occupational specialties will be affected by Force Design 2030, a sweeping review leaders say was needed to prep the service for future fights.

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    Four MOSs will be cut as part of the plan: 1812, armor Marine; 1869, senior armor staff noncommissioned officer; 2146, main battle tank repairer/technician; and 1802, tank officer. Three others -- 5803, military police officer; 2110, ordnance vehicle maintenance officer; and 5805, criminal investigation officer -- will see their billets reduced as part of the changes.
    That comes as tank battalions, infantry units, bridging companies, law enforcement missions and some aircraft squadrons see their missions cut or reduced.
    For now, the seven MOSs are the only ones that require "active force-shaping measures," an administrative message states. More guidance will be released if future phases of the Force Design require similar action, it adds.
    The Marine Corps is pledging to manage the reductions in a "measured and responsible way," said Maj. Craig Thomas, a spokesman for Manpower and Reserve Affairs in Quantico, Virginia. That includes relying on some Marines choosing to leave the service, as well as voluntary force-shaping authorities, he said.
    "The Marine Corps will remain faithful to our Marines and their families by maximizing opportunities for continued service for those in a military occupation slated for divestment," Thomas said.
    Of the seven MOSs facing cuts, the most highly populated include armor Marines, main battle tank repairer/technicians and military police officers. There are currently 421 armor Marines; 341 MBT repairer/technicians; and 308 military police officers.
    Commandant Gen. David Berger first announced in March that the Marine Corps will eventually stop operating tanks, cut three infantry battalions, and shed about 7% of its overall force over the next decade. The cost savings will be used to pay for high-tech equipment leaders say Marines will need to counter China, Russia, Iran and others.
    Lt. Gen. Eric Smith, the head of Marine Corps Combat Development Command, said the decision to cut or reduce some missions doesn't mean leathernecks who serve in those fields aren't important.
    "We're not saying that a tank or bridging company isn't of value," Smith told Military.com. "Tanks were a massive value in the past. I used them in and around Ramadi and in and around Fallujah [in Iraq]. They paid their dues in blood, right? These are Marine warriors from the Korean War to now."
    But the Marine Corps must reorganize to remain relevant, he added.
    "It's just that for the future fight, [those MOSs] are of less value than the things that we need most, such as long-range precision fire," Smith said.
    Marine administrative message 302/20 lays out several options for the personnel whose MOSs are closing or cutting billets, including lateral moves, early retirement options or interservice transfers to other military branches.
    "The use of involuntary tools may also be used, as necessary," the message states.
    Berger said last month no one would be forced out because of the changes. Force Design 2030, he said, "is intentionally drawn out over time so we can make the right decisions."
    Thomas said manpower officials have briefed commanders across the fleet on the MOS closures and cuts. Monitors and occupational field sponsors are working with impacted units, he said, "to ensure Marines have all the information necessary to help them make informed decisions about their future."
    "The Marine Corps desires to retain its finest warriors, regardless of their current MOS," Thomas added. "We will work with Marines on a case-by-case basis to find the best solution that meets the needs of the Marine Corps and the individual desires of each Marine."
    And I say we are looking at the beginning of the end.


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    I'm glad I served long before the "sensitivity police" took over the USA.


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    if true, we could be seeing the first steps toward merging the Corps with the Army, as some have wanted for years... in any case, doing away with armor and MP's is just about as stupid as one can get... whatever this commandant is smoking is definitely not "good stuff"....

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    What's next- "participation trophies" for people who go to boot camp and don't make it?


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    I wonder if the CMC is just following orders from higher up.


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