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    Yea or Nay........

    The US Navy commander of a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier reportedly sent out a "signal flare" a four-page emailed letter outlining the urgency of a coronavirus outbreak aboard his ship to fellow naval aviators because he believed his immediate supervisor would not have allowed the letter to be sent.
    Capt. Brett Crozier of the USS Theodore Roosevelt may have been worried that Rear Adm. Stuart Baker, his immediate boss and the commander of the carrier strike group, would not have allowed him to send the warning letter to Navy leaders, according to the top Navy official who fired him as told to a Washington Post columnist.
    Baker reportedly confirmed to Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly that Crozier's instincts were correct: "He was right. I wouldn't."
    The account comes from Modly, who relieved Crozier from his command of the USS Theodore Roosevelt and its 4,800 crew members on Thursday. Modly reasoned that Crozier should not have sent the "blast out" email to 20 or 30 recipients and that there was a "proper way of handling" his concerns.

    Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly testifies during a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee about about ongoing reports of substandard housing conditions, December 3, 2019 in Washington DC.
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    "The letter was sent over non-secure, unclassified email even though that ship possesses some of the most sophisticated communications and encryption equipment in the fleet," Modly said Thursday.
    "I have no doubt in my mind that Capt. Crozier did what he thought was in the best interest and well-being of his crew," Modly added. "Unfortunately, it did the opposite."
    In the letter, Crozier urged for a "political solution" and an "immediate and decisive action" for the coronavirus outbreak aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt. As of Sunday, over 150 service members tested positive. Crozier was also diagnosed with the coronavirus, the New York Times first reported.
    The contents of the letter were eventually leaked to the San Francisco Chronicle, which published its story on Tuesday. It was not immediately clear how the letter was leaked and the Defense Department has launched an investigation.
    Modly assessed that Crozier was "panicking" and was flabbergasted by the captain being "so out of character," he said to The Post.
    "Either you're losing it, or you're extremely naive, or you're dishonorable," Modly reportedly said, adding that "If he did this intentionally, he's not honorable."

    The aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt.
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    Modly also claimed that he made the decision, which Defense Secretary Mark Esper supported, because he "didn't want to get into a decision where the president would feel that he had to intervene because the Navy couldn't be decisive," according to The Post.
    "If I were president, and I saw a commanding officer of a ship exercising such poor judgment, I would be asking why the leadership of the Navy wasn't taking action itself," Modly reportedly said.
    The acting secretary specifically pointed out the case of Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher, in which President Donald Trump directly intervened to reverse the military's decision to demote him and then blocked Navy SEAL leaders from initiating a review of whether he should remain a Navy SEAL.
    Gallagher, an ardent supporter of Trump's presidency, was previously found guilty of taking a picture with the corpse of an ISIS fighter. While Gallagher was found guilty of the one charge, he was acquitted of the several others, including murder.
    Trump's intervention prompted the resignation of Richard Spencer, Modly's immediate predecessor. Following his resignation, Spencer described Trump's actions as a mistake.
    "What message does that send to the troops," Spencer, who is a former Marine officer, previously said. "That you can get away with things. We have to have good order and discipline. It's the backbone of what we do."


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    hmm, here's my thoughts:
    1) I understand the concern by Capt. Brett Crozier of the ship. but:
    2)there is a such thing as chain of command which must be followed...
    3) you don't send sensitive things like this on an open E-Mail
    4) if you don't like the answer you get from one commander there is a such thing as "Request Mast"
    5) this Commander Crozier sounds to me like a follower of the Obama/Clinton doctrine...


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    1st of all, only hillary can send sensitive or top secret documents over an open email. Other than that the Capt should have followed the chain of command. He chose to be a lifer therefore he knows the rules.


  4. #4
    Amen Russ....he should have consulted Hillary about the do's and don't s of sending highly sensitive material.


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    Quote Originally Posted by irpat54 View Post
    hmm, here's my thoughts:
    1)
    2) there is a such thing as chain of command which must be followed...
    3)
    4)
    5) this Commander Crozier sounds to me like a follower of the Obama/Clinton doctrine..

    .
    do remember the USS-Indianapolis
    broadcast an open transmission
    they had been struck by torpedo
    and were sinking



  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by m14ed View Post
    do remember the USS-Indianapolis
    broadcast an open transmission
    they had been struck by torpedo
    and were sinking
    and it only took 12 minutes for the ship to slip beneath the waves...


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