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    Decriminalizing Prostitution....

    Prostitution has been called the world’s oldest profession. But outside of a handful of counties in Nevada, it’s illegal in the U.S. A movement is now gaining traction to decriminalize sex work.
    The City Council in Washington, D.C., and the New York state Legislature are considering separate decriminalization bills. Under decriminalization, selling and buying sex would still be illegal but would carry no criminal penaties. Several Democratic candidates for president — including Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris and Cory Booker — have said they would consider decriminalizing sex work nationwide.
    Laws concerning prostitution vary widely between countries, with some banning it entirely and others treating it as a completely legal industry. Some places, including Canada, use what’s known as the Nordic model, in which selling sex is allowed but buying it is still prohibited.
    Why there’s debate:

    The decriminalization push has largely been led by sex workers themselves, who say current laws make them vulnerable to violence and harassment while doing nothing to curb the demand for buying sex. Decriminalizing prostitution, they say, would create a legitimate marketplace that would put nefarious actors like pimps and traffickers out of business. Others make the case that sex work is a legitimate profession that should be afforded the rights and protections given to all other jobs.
    Decriminalization advocates say it’s better than making prostitution legal, because they believe legalization would create space for a black market outside the law that would be fertile ground for trafficking and other forms of exploitation.
    Opposition to decriminalization comes from a number of directions. There are, of course, those who believe that selling sex is immoral and shouldn’t be permitted. Others who support sex workers’ rights say decriminalization would make trafficking and exploitation worse by increasing demand in the sex trade. Some sex workers prefer the Nordic model or full legalization to the decriminalization bills currently under consideration.
    What’s next:

    It’s unclear whether the decriminalization bills in either New York or D.C. will have the votes to be passed, even with left-leaning legislative bodies in both places. If Washington’s City Council approves a bill, it will then have to survive a review from Congress before it can become law.
    Perspectives:

    Supporters
    Criminalized sex work creates risk for people from marginalized communities

    “Vice enforcement increases police contact with LGBTQ people, and can expose them to violence by increasing stigma against them.” — Melissa Gira Grant, New Republic
    Consenting adults should be able to exchange sex for money

    “Criminalizing adult, voluntary, and consensual sex — including the commercial exchange of sexual services — is incompatible with the human right to personal autonomy and privacy.” — Human Rights Watch
    Decriminalizing sex work would decrease trafficking

    “Decriminalization of sex work makes everyone safer. More than any other kind of system, decriminalization will help reduce the number of people who are trafficked and help those who are victims of trafficking get to safety more easily with fewer negative health and safety consequences.” — Katie Tastrom, Rewire
    Sex work provides opportunity for people with limited options

    “Throughout history, people have exchanged the commodity of sex for money to survive against poverty, to empower themselves against miserable life circumstances, and to challenge societal norms.” — Alex Corona, USA Today
    Banning sex work is a violation of individual liberty

    “Decriminalizing sex work is an opportunity to restore freedom and autonomy over our bodies. Supporting choice, freedom, and liberty is what this country is supposed to be about, and not allowing government to find and utilize more ways to control our individual bodies that interfere with our rights and liberties guaranteed by the Constitution.” — Tamika Spellman, The Root
    Sex workers deserve rights afforded to people in any other profession

    “Justice won’t be found in locking up sex workers, ending demand for commercial sex, or ‘exiting’ sex workers into low-wage jobs in sweat shops. It will come from these workers themselves building power to gain control over their working conditions…” — Natalie Shure, Jacobin
    Critics
    Decriminalization makes women involved in sex work less safe

    “...decriminalization policies have appeared to increase barriers to seeking police interventions and avoiding violence because the laws have legitimized ‘management’ — pimps, traffickers, and brothel owners — and exploitation by clients under the guise of ‘purchasing choice.’” — Chitra Raghavan, Kendra Doychak, and Elise Juraschek, Albany Times Union
    The decriminalization push glosses over the harsh realities of the sex trade

    “[Decriminalization] buys into the myth of prostitution as a victimless crime, glossing over the harsh realities — abuse from clients and pimps, commonplace drug use, psychological and physical trauma — of sex work.” — Editorial, Washington Post
    Legalization is a better choice

    “Decriminalizing also does not protect willing, adult sex workers. True, they needn’t fear law enforcement, but they still don’t have full legal protections because they are still selling an illegal service. The better alternative is legalization…” — Allison Schrager, New York Daily News
    It would increase sex trafficking

    “If you remove any impediments to buying sex and normalize it, there’ll be an increase in that act. People from the most impoverished and marginalized communities then get trafficked in to meet that demand.” — Anti-trafficking advocate Alexi Ashe Meyers to InStyle
    Decriminalization should be limited to selling sex; buying it should remain illegal

    “There is another, better solution: a partial decriminalization approach that does not punish women who have been caught up in or coerced into sexual exploitation. The Equality Model decriminalizes the sale of sex while keeping legal prohibitions in place against pimping, brothels and purchasing sex — a move that protects those engaged in prostitution but shrinks the overall market.” — Yasmin Vafa, Washingtonian

    Prostitution is immoral and should be banned

    “Prostitution is violence; not sex, not work.” — Rev. Que English, New York Amsterdam News

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    "There is another, better solution: a partial decriminalization approach that does not punish women who have been caught up in or coerced into sexual exploitation. The Equality Model decriminalizes the sale of sex while keeping legal prohibitions in place against pimping, brothels and purchasing sex — a move that protects those engaged in prostitution but shrinks the overall market.”

    That's akin to saying it will be legal and fully acceptable for someone to sell drugs but will keep it illegal for anyone to buy them and will keep the punishment in place.

    Or legal to sell stolen merchandise but ILLegal to buy it and punish only the buyer.

    What moron came up with this idea?


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    Well I can assure you, Brother.....it has Democrat pasted all over it....


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    legalize it, period... free up the money that Police Departments have to spend to counter VICE crimes, make prostitutes REGISTER as such, and get REGULAR health checks as well as PAY TAXES.. something that most do not do at present... as for :

    “If you remove any impediments to buying sex and normalize it, there’ll be an increase in that act. People from the most impoverished and marginalized communities then get trafficked in to meet that demand.”

    THAT is EXACTLY the same argument that led to prohibition, and was proven WRONG!!! When prohibition ended, alcohol use DECREASED, not increased... seems that there is a segment of the population that will do something for thrills simply because it is ILLEGAL... legalization puts that segment out of play for the most part.....


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    Oldtop,

    Having been involved in numerous prostitution stings (as a cop), and knowing the girls that worked in my area, I doubt the majority would register and get regular health checks. Forget paying taxes. A lot of women take up prostitution to pay for their drug habits and if they have pimps, much of their earnings are siphoned off by the pimp. Pimps don't issue W-2s or 1099s either. A very few girls try to support their families. The police would still have to devote time and officers to check for licenses and health cards, etc. It is a conundrum, no question.


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    At least they can use the word STOP I know it corny but funny too.

    STOP , state tax on Pu##y how would they classify it.??


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    Here's the kicker, ya'll......if in fact a Woman is a legally registered Prostitute, paying income tax, and getting a Doctors certificate of good health every month, it would be under the same scrutiny as owners of other jobs. You could not discriminate because of race, gender, age, religion or physical impurities. What I'm saying is, someone like Ed or Dave, could not be turned down. Imagine that shet...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zulu 36 View Post
    Oldtop,

    Having been involved in numerous prostitution stings (as a cop), and knowing the girls that worked in my area, I doubt the majority would register and get regular health checks. Forget paying taxes. A lot of women take up prostitution to pay for their drug habits and if they have pimps, much of their earnings are siphoned off by the pimp. Pimps don't issue W-2s or 1099s either. A very few girls try to support their families. The police would still have to devote time and officers to check for licenses and health cards, etc. It is a conundrum, no question.
    as a former cop, I too, fully understand all of the above, but legalization with my "suggestions" would also make it much easier to target the pimps as well as the "street walker" class prostitutes, and without their "current health card", provide a quick and legitimate excuse for an arrest … get them off the street and into a rehab, maybe a few could be "salvaged", if not, so be it, but enough jail time will definitely put a hamper into their activities....


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