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    Travel restrictions - IRS

    IRS Travel Ban: Revoking Citizenship By Stealth
    Provision that allows feds to suspend passports of accused tax delinquents expected to pass Congress

    Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
    Infowars.com
    Monday, April 16, 2012

    Efforts to pass a bill that would allow the IRS to deny travel rights to U.S. citizens who the feds merely claim owe $50,000 or more in delinquent taxes represents a de facto move to revoke the citizenship of Americans without due process and in complete violation of the Constitution.


    Thanks to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a recently passed Senate bill, the suitably Orwellian entitled ‘Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act’, includes a provision that allows the federal government to revoke passports of Americans accused of owing back taxes.

    The legislation now moves to the Congress where, despite a Republican majority, the IRS provision is expected to be retained in the final version of the bill because it will raise an estimated $750 million dollars over ten years.

    “There is no requirement that the tax payer be guilty of or even charged with tax evasion, fraud, or any criminal offense — only that the citizen is alleged to owe the IRS back taxes of $50,000 or more,” reports the Daily Economist.

    Empowering the IRS to deny fundamental rights on a whim is completely illegal and unconstitutional.

    “There are also numerous Supreme Court precedents protecting these same rights,” writes Jack Swint. “Furthermore, the law appears to violate Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3 of the United States Constitution, which forbids “Bills of Attainder”, which are laws providing for the punishment of an individual without benefit of judicial process.”

    “It takes away your right to enter or exit the country based upon a non-judicial IRS determination that you owe taxes,” Constitutional Attorney Angel Reyes told FOX Business. “It’s a scary thought that our congressional representatives want to give the IRS the power to detain US citizens over taxes, which could very well be in dispute.”

    What’s next? If the feds can bar you from leaving the country merely by claiming you have committed some infraction without having to provide any evidence, the prospect of Americans being abducted and interned indefinitely under the National Defense Authorization Act with a similar absence of due process is just around the corner.

    Will citizens have their drivers license cancelled if the state claims they are behind on their property taxes? How about the government working with big banks to suspend credit cards if an individual is accused of avoiding inheritance or capital gains tax? Will similar punitive measures of punishment be enforced for Americans who attempt to avoid mandatory government health care?

    Presumably because the provision was introduced by Harry Reid, there is a noticeable absence of uproar from the left even though the bill would achieve in one fell swoop what civil libertarians have fought against during the course of over ten years of the ‘war on terror’ – the ability of the federal government to arbitrarily strip Americans of the inherent rights associated with their citizenship status.

    While U.S. citizens will be treated as guilty until proven innocent with regard to tax delinquency under this bill, individuals and corporations that have avoided hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes continue to escape any scrutiny whatsoever from the IRS.

    Forget $50,000 dollars, people like Warren Buffett owe nearly one billion dollars in back taxes going back a decade, but I doubt you’ll see Buffett being apprehended by the TSA on his next business trip if this bill passes Congress.

    This has nothing to do with cracking down on large scale tax criminals and everything to do with greasing the skids for the federal government to randomly deny Americans the right to mobility, effectively revoking their citizenship, merely on hearsay alone.


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    Contitution does not mean much to some in DC and will not until we the People remove them with our votes.


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    Infowars is the propoganda site of infamous conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.

    He has claimed various things, including that the US is building concentration camps to house Americans, UN troops are going to attack and take over the US, and various other things. He also places a lot of stuff on his sites that is hateful to our Dark Green (African-American) Marines.

    Please watch your sources, as he also has made a number of very hurtful claims about 9/11 for those of us who lived in Manhattan in that time period.


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    A record number of Americans living abroad are renouncing their citizenship due to our confiscatory tax regulations and corporate tax rate that is the highest in the world.

    www.reuters.com


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    As with any reporting agency. There is bound to be a spin on the focus.
    Reality is the facts of pending bills.
    Personal opinion is we have too many bills already.

    When was the last time you saw common sense applied ?

    Typically I don't visit mentioned site but topic caught my attention.

    If you have proof to the contrary please share
    Intrest is the truth.


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    Don't cheat on your taxes and this won't happen then.


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    You are right on with your observation.
    If that were the only issue ----

    Problem is greasing the skids for erosion of our freedoms one at a time

    Why haven't our leaders informed us of this bill (and others) ?
    Why has there not been some form of a vote or choices ?


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    Troops owe IRS $390 million....... guess congress can bring them home and not send anyone to war again.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/militar...IRS/54355274/1


    And at least one Congressman has the right idea to hold members of Congress and the Senate accountable for back taxes,although we all know how far that will go.

    http://news.bostonherald.com/news/us...osition=recent

    Last edited by DanM; 04-17-12 at 08:49 PM. Reason: added link

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    Direct quote from the sites operator (Alex Jones) regarding supposed DHS preps for the upcoming race war: "“putting out videos and propaganda telegraphing what I believe to be a conflict with white America they’re preparing for after they get another 10 or 15 million people in the country to back them up."

    So there is a quote where he states that the US government is preparing a war on "white America."...

    He has also interrupted US military drills by accusing domestic based drills to be preparation for the US military to attack Americans. He tried to stop the USANG from conducting mock searches for arms dealers (to prep for deployment to OCONUS where they would do similar things) that was to take place in a town. So there he is stopping our Army brothers from preparing for war because he believes that the War Fighter is trying to prepare to take over the country.

    His website currently has an article talking up how great it is that the Wikileaks guy has a show on the Russian propaganda channel and interviewed the leader of Hezbollah, so they can spread what he considered the truth.

    Now, if you want to find the text of the bill you can go to: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s1813/text

    Note, this would only apply in the most serious of cases, requires due process (Due process means a judge is involved at some point in most governmental functions) and has lots of exemptions for people who are challenging the debt. Fact is, there is no constitutional right to international travel. Only a constitutional right to interstate travel for those not under restriction for criminal penalties (parole, probation).


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