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    Do or Die

    Where did this phrase originate?


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    The Charge Of The Light Brigade




    by Alfred, Lord Tennyson



    Memorializing Events in the Battle of Balaclava, October 25, 1854
    Written 1854





    Half a league half a league,
    Half a league onward,
    All in the valley of Death
    Rode the six hundred:
    'Forward, the Light Brigade!
    Charge for the guns' he said:
    Into the valley of Death
    Rode the six hundred.

    'Forward, the Light Brigade!'
    Was there a man dismay'd ?
    Not tho' the soldier knew
    Some one had blunder'd:
    Theirs not to make reply,
    Theirs not to reason why,
    Theirs but to do & die,
    Into the valley of Death
    Rode the six hundred.

    Cannon to right of them,
    Cannon to left of them,
    Cannon in front of them
    Volley'd & thunder'd;
    Storm'd at with shot and shell,
    Boldly they rode and well,
    Into the jaws of Death,
    Into the mouth of Hell
    Rode the six hundred.

    Flash'd all their sabres bare,
    Flash'd as they turn'd in air
    Sabring the gunners there,
    Charging an army while
    All the world wonder'd:
    Plunged in the battery-smoke
    Right thro' the line they broke;
    Cossack & Russian
    Reel'd from the sabre-stroke,
    Shatter'd & sunder'd.
    Then they rode back, but not
    Not the six hundred.

    Cannon to right of them,
    Cannon to left of them,
    Cannon behind them
    Volley'd and thunder'd;
    Storm'd at with shot and shell,
    While horse & hero fell,
    They that had fought so well
    Came thro' the jaws of Death,
    Back from the mouth of Hell,
    All that was left of them,
    Left of six hundred.

    When can their glory fade?
    O the wild charge they made!
    All the world wonder'd.
    Honour the charge they made!
    Honour the Light Brigade,
    Noble six hundred!





    Note: This poem, including punctuation, is reproduced from a scan of the poem written out by Tennyson in his own hand in 1864. The scan was made available online by the University of Virginia.




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    At PI, every night during our last "On Line" prior to lights out we had to recite that at the top of our lungs.

    Ours is not to reason why,
    Ours is but to Do or Die,
    Gung Ho, Gung Ho, Gung Ho


    It becomes a part of you after awhile.


  4. #4
    You mean it didn't originate from the phrase in "Full Metal Jacket" Semper fi, do or die!?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MOS4429 View Post
    You mean it didn't originate from the phrase in "Full Metal Jacket" Semper fi, do or die!?
    Actually the movie Full Metal Jacket was about us, we came before the movie. The movie depicted PI very well during my time, except we had 5 DI's instead of the 1 they showed. Also at Hue City they depicted the 2/5, Capt Kirk's outfit, not a frame on us the 1/5 north of the river.


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    Quote Originally Posted by advanced View Post
    Actually the movie Full Metal Jacket was about us, we came before the movie. The movie depicted PI very well during my time, except we had 5 DI's instead of the 1 they showed. Also at Hue City they depicted the 2/5, Capt Kirk's outfit, not a frame on us the 1/5 north of the river.
    THANK YOU FOR THAT INTERESTING INFO ON FULL METAL JACKET RUSS THAT MOVIE IS MY FAVORITE.

    SEMPER FI MY BROTHER

    STEPHEN DOC HANSEN HM3 FMF


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    Quote Originally Posted by advanced View Post
    Actually the movie Full Metal Jacket was about us, we came before the movie. The movie depicted PI very well during my time, except we had 5 DI's instead of the 1 they showed. Also at Hue City they depicted the 2/5, Capt Kirk's outfit, not a frame on us the 1/5 north of the river.
    Thanks for the clarification. My comment was a bit tongue in cheek.


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    That said, "Semper fi, do or die," is a direct quote from the movie, but I realize the writers did not invent the quote.


  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by MOS4429 View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. My comment was a bit tongue in cheek.
    I understand your "tongue in cheek", but it was an every night thing for us with full passion and motivation, if you went to PI you know what I mean.


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    Hey 03Mike, that was cool!

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by 03Mike View Post
    The Charge Of The Light Brigade
    by Alfred, Lord Tennyson

    Memorializing Events in the Battle of Balaclava, October 25, 1854
    Written 1854

    Half a league half a league,
    Half a league onward,
    All in the valley of Death
    Rode the six hundred:
    'Forward, the Light Brigade!
    Charge for the guns' he said:
    Into the valley of Death
    Rode the six hundred.

    'Forward, the Light Brigade!'
    Was there a man dismay'd ?
    Not tho' the soldier knew
    Some one had blunder'd:
    Theirs not to make reply,
    Theirs not to reason why,
    Theirs but to do & die,
    Into the valley of Death
    Rode the six hundred.

    Cannon to right of them,
    Cannon to left of them,
    Cannon in front of them
    Volley'd & thunder'd;
    Storm'd at with shot and shell,
    Boldly they rode and well,
    Into the jaws of Death,
    Into the mouth of Hell
    Rode the six hundred.

    Flash'd all their sabres bare,
    Flash'd as they turn'd in air
    Sabring the gunners there,
    Charging an army while
    All the world wonder'd:
    Plunged in the battery-smoke
    Right thro' the line they broke;
    Cossack & Russian
    Reel'd from the sabre-stroke,
    Shatter'd & sunder'd.
    Then they rode back, but not
    Not the six hundred.

    Cannon to right of them,
    Cannon to left of them,
    Cannon behind them
    Volley'd and thunder'd;
    Storm'd at with shot and shell,
    While horse & hero fell,
    They that had fought so well
    Came thro' the jaws of Death,
    Back from the mouth of Hell,
    All that was left of them,
    Left of six hundred.

    When can their glory fade?
    O the wild charge they made!
    All the world wonder'd.
    Honour the charge they made!
    Honour the Light Brigade, Noble six hundred!

    Note: This poem, including punctuation, is reproduced from a scan of the poem written out by Tennyson in his own hand in 1864. The scan was made available online by the University of Virginia.



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